News Asus Unveils Massive Threadripper 7000 HEDT Motherboard With 36 Power Stages

[Admin]

Asus has unveiled its first Threadripper 7000 HEDT motherboard to date aimed at workstation users. The board features a massive profile with a huge power delivery system for overclocking.

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[Order 66]

Isn't 36 power phases past the point of diminishing returns? why is this even necessary?

 

[thestryker]

I'm really curious what market Asus is aiming at with this board. It has a lot of PCIe connectivity, but I'm curious how the 3x PCIe x16 5.0 slots work with 2x PCIe 5.0 M.2. On the other hand they have overkill VRMs, stuck with 1DPC and single 10gb LAN.

This seems more like a board that would have existed when HEDT was really a thing, but it will cost $800 minimum with the cheapest CPU you can get being $1500 and DRAM starting at around $400 (for 6000).

Though looking through other TRX50 boards they all seem to have weird corners cut (all different), overkill VRMs (maybe this says something about TR 7000 power delivery) and 1DPC.

edit: totally didn't realize all Zen 4 TR were limited to 1DPC

 

[nightbird321]

Isn't 36 power phases past the point of diminishing returns? why is this even necessary?

My guess is to spread the load and lower the temperature for extended 100% utilization of this computer.

 

[ware451]

Thank you Thank you Thank you

 

[helper800]

This seems more like a board that would have existed when HEDT was really a thing, but it will cost $800 minimum with the cheapest CPU you can get being $1500 and DRAM starting at around $400 (for 6000).

This board is probably more in the 1000-1200 dollar range as a minimum if I had to guess.

 

[Amdlova]

Why only four dimm slots?

 

[razor512]

It would be good to see how well the new threadripper CPUs overclock, especially considering that AMD tends to run individual cores at rather low clock speeds.

 

[thestryker]

My guess is to spread the load and lower the temperature for extended 100% utilization of this computer.

Their VRM for the $1200 Intel SPR WS board is 14+1+1 (and this board is used in the majority of HWBot rankings for w9-3495X) so it's either overkill or there's something really up with TR power delivery.

 

[Gillerer]

This CPU orientation can hardly be described as "unusual" or "unique" - this is the standard orientation for servers and workstations. The reason is exactly the one mentioned: front intake fans together with funnels can be used to cool everything: CPU, memory, CPU power delivery, GPU.

If ASUS were to rotate this socket for just the HEDT motherboard, that would be the unusual orientation.

Why only four dimm slots?

Threadripper non-Pro 7000 series has 4 memory channels. Both Pro and non-Pro only support 1 RDIMM per channel.

Note that RDIMMs can have higher capacities than desktop UDIMMs. I believe at least 256GB DDR5 RDIMMs are available.

 

[oldandcranky]

Threadripper non-Pro 7000 series has 4 memory channels. Both Pro and non-Pro only support 1 RDIMM per channel.

Note that RDIMMs can have higher capacities than desktop UDIMMs. I believe at least 256GB DDR5 RDIMMs are available.

The Threadripper Pros have 8 memory channels. Isn't using only 4 of them cutting memory bandwidth by close to 50%, even when using RDIMMs? Also, don't UDIMMs have a lower latency? If the board had 8 DIMM slots (1 DIMM per channel), wouldn't there be nearly twice the memory bandwidth? Not an engineer, just asking.

 

[thestryker]

Threadripper non-Pro 7000 series has 4 memory channels. Both Pro and non-Pro only support 1 RDIMM per channel.

I had missed this entirely, thanks for calling attention to it. I guess I just assumed they would never have that limitation especially since 32GB capacity is the highest RDIMMs go once you are above 4800 right now.

Note that RDIMMs can have higher capacities than desktop UDIMMs. I believe at least 256GB DDR5 RDIMMs are available.

128GB right now, and they're insanely expensive (over $1000 per stick), but 256GB will definitely be coming.

 

[thestryker]

The Threadripper Pros have 8 memory channels. Isn't using only 4 of them cutting memory bandwidth by close to 50%, even when using RDIMMs?

Yes, and that's why this board while supporting both CPUs is really intended for non-Pro. Intel W790 boards are the same way.

 

[Gillerer]

The Threadripper Pros have 8 memory channels. Isn't using only 4 of them cutting memory bandwidth by close to 50%, even when using RDIMMs? Also, don't UDIMMs have a lower latency? If the board had 8 DIMM slots (1 DIMM per channel), wouldn't there be nearly twice the memory bandwidth? Not an engineer, just asking.

This is a TRX50 chipset based motherboard, primarily intended for Threadripper non-pro 7000. That is the "HEDT" mentioned in the title - as opposed to Pro that is "workstation".

While you can run the WX CPUs on this as well, you won't get to take advantage of the doubled memory channels and extra PCIe Gen 5 lanes. You'd need a WRX90-based motherboard for that.

 

[froggx]

The Threadripper Pros have 8 memory channels. Isn't using only 4 of them cutting memory bandwidth by close to 50%, even when using RDIMMs?

As per the article you just read:

"The board is aimed at workstation users who don't want to shell out $10,000 for AMD's flagship Threadripper Pro 7000WX chips..."

and you also read that:

"Asus' new board is designed specifically for AMD's new Ryzen 7000 Threadripper HEDT parts, featuring up to 64 cores, quad-channel DDR5 memory support, and up to 48 PCIe Gen 5 lanes. For the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 7000WX series, Asus will release an SE version of this board to support AMD's more feature-rich workstation chips."

so you know this board isn't going to support the full feature set of a Threadripper Pro. It's pretty clear from your math that you already understood the performance implications in that case and knew the answer to what you were asking.

 

[TheFighterJetDude]

Will this board support Microsoft's all new "Windows 7 Ultimate"? With 64 bit(s)

 

[COLGeek]

Will this board support Microsoft's all new "Windows 7 Ultimate"? With 64 bit(s)

Why would it?

 

[TheFighterJetDude]

Why would it?

Why wouldn't it ? The asus Z690 prime does

 

[Ogotai]

but I'm curious how the 3x PCIe x16 5.0 slots work with 2x PCIe 5.0 M.2.

to further froggx's post, this also has 80 lanes of PCIe to use, 48 of PCIe5 and 32 of PCIe4....

 

[Amdlova]

Why wouldn't it ? The asus Z690 prime does

Nope, the new platforms from Intel and amd don't have any kind of support for windows 7.

 

[TheFighterJetDude]

Nope, the new platforms from Intel and amd don't have any kind of support for windows 7.

Yet it works just fine.