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I just had a CPU temperature alarm on my Abit VA-10 board. Running an Athlon
2500+. It's been running around 54-55C, but it's at 60C now, the default
upper range of Hardware Doctor. (It's a warm day, and I don't have the A/C
on). I knocked it up another couple of degrees.

I bought a bigger cooler fan which was too large to fit in the tight space.
Is 60C safe, and any other way to cool it down besides a larger fan?

Another thing I've noticed about heat sinks: I've noticed that when I remove
a heat sink, there appears to be very little heat sink compound left on it
or the CPU, even though I applied a thin layer at installation. Why would
that be?

Thanks.

Ken
 
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"Ken_B" <@> wrote
> I bought a bigger cooler fan which was too large to fit in the tight
space.
> Is 60C safe, and any other way to cool it down besides a larger fan?



Hi,
60°C is safe but not desirable! I found that by paying attention to your
case cooling you can reduce the CPU temps allot, like 1°C off your CPU temp
for every 1°C you can reduce your case temp. I built an AMD based machine
for my Brother about 2 months ago, and that has a T-Bred 2400+ overclocked
to 11x200. I used a spare retail Barton HSF instead of the really poor HSF
that came with his XP2400+. Anyway I had to apply 1.85vCore to get that
chip stable and its max load was 60°C, with the system temp being 25°C.

Case cooling can really pay off, HDD, PWM all like it.

As to the thermal gunk drying up, how long are we talking before you take
off the HSF? like a few weeks or several months?
--
Wayne ][
<Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
--
Wayne ][
<Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
 
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I can't see much thermal compound (it almost looks as if none were put on)
if I take the heat sink off a day or two later.

I think the temperature sensing unit may actually be touching the underside
of the CPU and I've been wondering if it should.

I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it, and the
system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.

Thanks for the response.

Ken






"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40773911$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > I bought a bigger cooler fan which was too large to fit in the tight
> space.
> > Is 60C safe, and any other way to cool it down besides a larger fan?
>
>
>
> Hi,
> 60°C is safe but not desirable! I found that by paying attention to your
> case cooling you can reduce the CPU temps allot, like 1°C off your CPU
temp
> for every 1°C you can reduce your case temp. I built an AMD based machine
> for my Brother about 2 months ago, and that has a T-Bred 2400+ overclocked
> to 11x200. I used a spare retail Barton HSF instead of the really poor
HSF
> that came with his XP2400+. Anyway I had to apply 1.85vCore to get that
> chip stable and its max load was 60°C, with the system temp being 25°C.
>
> Case cooling can really pay off, HDD, PWM all like it.
>
> As to the thermal gunk drying up, how long are we talking before you take
> off the HSF? like a few weeks or several months?
> --
> Wayne ][
> <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> --
> Wayne ][
> <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
>
>
 
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"Ken_B" <@> wrote
> I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it, and the
> system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.

Hi,
I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that possible?
I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo or?
--
Wayne ][
<Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
 
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I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the Hardware
Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a reading
of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.

When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F, and the
side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air circulation. I've
left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on. As I
stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side of
the case and the temps came down.

I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open, room fan
off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp seems
about
normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have always
run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the high
system temp readings are coming from.

I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I should try
that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.

Ken



"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it, and the
> > system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
>
> Hi,
> I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that possible?
> I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo or?
> --
> Wayne ][
> <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
>
>
 
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What type of case are you using, how many fans and where are they
positioned?

Jon

"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the Hardware
> Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a reading
> of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
>
> When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F, and
the
> side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air circulation.
I've
> left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on. As
I
> stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side of
> the case and the temps came down.
>
> I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open, room
fan
> off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp seems
> about
> normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
always
> run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
high
> system temp readings are coming from.
>
> I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I should
try
> that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> "Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >
> > "Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > > I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it, and
the
> > > system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> >
> > Hi,
> > I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that possible?
> > I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> > Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo or?
> > --
> > Wayne ][
> > <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
 
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51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous, but a
bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is supposed to be
the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard, near cmos
battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?

Try a few things:
-Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably as high
as possible.
-Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One should
not be directly under the other, if possible.
-After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is cover,
[] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus clogging the
fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.

What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it should
vanish like you describe it.
-Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What about
the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on? If so,
that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.


"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the Hardware
> Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a reading
> of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
>
> When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F, and
the
> side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air circulation.
I've
> left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on. As
I
> stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side of
> the case and the temps came down.
>
> I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open, room
fan
> off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp seems
> about
> normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
always
> run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
high
> system temp readings are coming from.
>
> I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I should
try
> that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> "Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >
> > "Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > > I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it, and
the
> > > system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> >
> > Hi,
> > I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that possible?
> > I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> > Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo or?
> > --
> > Wayne ][
> > <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
 
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I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.

I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp is
dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit default
setting 70C?

Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is measuring,
and where from?

As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after insulating
it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the case,
then closed the case.

After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).

Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to 55C and
system to 59.5C.

Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.

Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal compound.



"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
> 51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous, but
a
> bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is supposed to
be
> the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard, near
cmos
> battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
>
> Try a few things:
> -Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably as
high
> as possible.
> -Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
should
> not be directly under the other, if possible.
> -After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
> touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
cover,
> [] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus clogging
the
> fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
>
> What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it should
> vanish like you describe it.
> -Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What abou
t
> the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on? If so,
> that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
>
>
> "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> > I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> > temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
Hardware
> > Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
reading
> > of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
> >
> > When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F, and
> the
> > side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air circulation.
> I've
> > left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on.
As
> I
> > stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side
of
> > the case and the temps came down.
> >
> > I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open, room
> fan
> > off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp seems
> > about
> > normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
> always
> > run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
> high
> > system temp readings are coming from.
> >
> > I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I should
> try
> > that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > "Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > >
> > > "Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > > > I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it, and
> the
> > > > system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
possible?
> > > I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> > > Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo or?
> > > --
> > > Wayne ][
> > > <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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I think he has his Hardware Doctor improperly setup and his sensors (or
labels) are backwards. BTW, it is quite normal for heatsink compound to
"squeaze out" after the heatsink has been on for a while. Nothing wrong
with it. The compound naturally finds all of the pits and valleys leaving
optimal contact between core and heatsink.

Dave


"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107g7vsrerpjs34@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
> I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
> My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.
>
> I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp is
> dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit
default
> setting 70C?
>
> Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is measuring,
> and where from?
>
> As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after
insulating
> it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the
case,
> then closed the case.
>
> After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
> thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).
>
> Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to 55C
and
> system to 59.5C.
>
> Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.
>
> Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal
compound.
>
>
>
> "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
> > 51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous,
but
> a
> > bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is supposed
to
> be
> > the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard, near
> cmos
> > battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
> >
> > Try a few things:
> > -Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably as
> high
> > as possible.
> > -Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
> should
> > not be directly under the other, if possible.
> > -After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
> > touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
> cover,
> > [] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus clogging
> the
> > fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
> >
> > What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it
should
> > vanish like you describe it.
> > -Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What
abou
> t
> > the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on? If
so,
> > that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
> >
> >
> > "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> > > temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
> Hardware
> > > Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
> reading
> > > of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
> > >
> > > When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F,
and
> > the
> > > side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air
circulation.
> > I've
> > > left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on.
> As
> > I
> > > stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side
> of
> > > the case and the temps came down.
> > >
> > > I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open,
room
> > fan
> > > off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp
seems
> > > about
> > > normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
> > always
> > > run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
> > high
> > > system temp readings are coming from.
> > >
> > > I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I
should
> > try
> > > that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > > > > I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it,
and
> > the
> > > > > system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
> possible?
> > > > I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> > > > Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo
or?
> > > > --
> > > > Wayne ][
> > > > <Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
 
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Guess not. I did the same when installing Duron1600, thinking it will work
more accurately, but no. I think when in contact with cpu, it gets mad. I
have KT7A btw.
So when using Duro1300, 0.18u cpu, it was at 46-53 range. But after adding
Duron1600, 0.13u and huge hsf(should be cooler) , it went to 53-58'C! After
much trial and error, i lowered the diode a bit, now temps are 35-40'C,
where they should be. I tested the hsf with fan stopped, it went to max
39'C, while the pc showed 43'C cpu temp. Which looks almost accurate.

"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107giiujd9khi75@corp.supernews.com...
> I just thought of something: when I installed the CPU, I raised that
sensor
> that sits just below the CPU a little bit. Maybe I shouldn't have done
that?
 
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Thanks. When I get a chance I'll lower that diode so it isn't in contact.

Ken

"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
news:GSYdc.78242$BD3.9074183@juliett.dax.net...
> Guess not. I did the same when installing Duron1600, thinking it will work
> more accurately, but no. I think when in contact with cpu, it gets mad. I
> have KT7A btw.
> So when using Duro1300, 0.18u cpu, it was at 46-53 range. But after adding
> Duron1600, 0.13u and huge hsf(should be cooler) , it went to 53-58'C!
After
> much trial and error, i lowered the diode a bit, now temps are 35-40'C,
> where they should be. I tested the hsf with fan stopped, it went to max
> 39'C, while the pc showed 43'C cpu temp. Which looks almost accurate.
>
> "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107giiujd9khi75@corp.supernews.com...
> > I just thought of something: when I installed the CPU, I raised that
> sensor
> > that sits just below the CPU a little bit. Maybe I shouldn't have done
> that?
>
>
 
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After separating HDs (putting the largest in a bay with a bay cooler),
installing a larger PS with dual fans, I still had temps in the mid 50C
range. As an experiment I took the side of the case back off and set a
12-inch table fan about six inches away on medium. Temps dropped 10C in a
few minutes.


"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107h5id7gv833e4@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks. When I get a chance I'll lower that diode so it isn't in contact.
>
> Ken
>
> "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> news:GSYdc.78242$BD3.9074183@juliett.dax.net...
> > Guess not. I did the same when installing Duron1600, thinking it will
work
> > more accurately, but no. I think when in contact with cpu, it gets mad.
I
> > have KT7A btw.
> > So when using Duro1300, 0.18u cpu, it was at 46-53 range. But after
adding
> > Duron1600, 0.13u and huge hsf(should be cooler) , it went to 53-58'C!
> After
> > much trial and error, i lowered the diode a bit, now temps are 35-40'C,
> > where they should be. I tested the hsf with fan stopped, it went to max
> > 39'C, while the pc showed 43'C cpu temp. Which looks almost accurate.
> >
> > "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107giiujd9khi75@corp.supernews.com...
> > > I just thought of something: when I installed the CPU, I raised that
> > sensor
> > > that sits just below the CPU a little bit. Maybe I shouldn't have done
> > that?
> >
> >
>
>
 
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Um, you want the socket diode touching the bottom of the CPU, otherwise it will
hardly be accurate at all.

>Guess not. I did the same when installing Duron1600, thinking it will work
>more accurately, but no. I think when in contact with cpu, it gets mad. I
>have KT7A btw.
>So when using Duro1300, 0.18u cpu, it was at 46-53 range. But after adding
>Duron1600, 0.13u and huge hsf(should be cooler) , it went to 53-58'C! After
>much trial and error, i lowered the diode a bit, now temps are 35-40'C,
>where they should be. I tested the hsf with fan stopped, it went to max
>39'C, while the pc showed 43'C cpu temp. Which looks almost accurate.


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
 
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DaveL wrote:
> I think he has his Hardware Doctor improperly setup and his sensors (or
> labels) are backwards. BTW, it is quite normal for heatsink compound to
> "squeaze out" after the heatsink has been on for a while. Nothing wrong
> with it. The compound naturally finds all of the pits and valleys leaving
> optimal contact between core and heatsink.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107g7vsrerpjs34@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
>>I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
>>My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.
>>
>>I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp is
>>dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit
>
> default
>
>>setting 70C?
>>
>>Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is measuring,
>>and where from?
>>
>>As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after
>
> insulating
>
>>it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the
>
> case,
>
>>then closed the case.
>>
>>After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
>>thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).
>>
>>Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to 55C
>
> and
>
>>system to 59.5C.
>>
>>Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.
>>
>>Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal
>
> compound.
>
>>
>>
>>"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
>>news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
>>
>>>51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous,
>
> but
>
>>a
>>
>>>bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is supposed
>
> to
>
>>be
>>
>>>the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard, near
>>
>>cmos
>>
>>>battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
>>>
>>>Try a few things:
>>>-Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably as
>>
>>high
>>
>>>as possible.
>>>-Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
>>
>>should
>>
>>>not be directly under the other, if possible.
>>>-After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
>>>touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
>>
>>cover,
>>
>>>[] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus clogging
>>
>>the
>>
>>>fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
>>>
>>>What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it
>
> should
>
>>>vanish like you describe it.
>>>-Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What
>
> abou
>
>>t
>>
>>>the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on? If
>
> so,
>
>>>that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
>>>>temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
>>
>>Hardware
>>
>>>>Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
>>
>>reading
>>
>>>>of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
>>>>
>>>>When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F,
>
> and
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air
>
> circulation.
>
>>>I've
>>>
>>>>left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on.
>>
>>As
>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side
>>
>>of
>>
>>>>the case and the temps came down.
>>>>
>>>>I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open,
>
> room
>
>>>fan
>>>
>>>>off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp
>
> seems
>
>>>>about
>>>>normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
>>>
>>>always
>>>
>>>>run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
>>>
>>>high
>>>
>>>>system temp readings are coming from.
>>>>
>>>>I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I
>
> should
>
>>>try
>>>
>>>>that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
>>>>
>>>>Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>>
>>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it,
>
> and
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
>>
>>possible?
>>
>>>>>I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
>>>>>Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo
>
> or?
>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Wayne ][
>>>>><Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
This message caught my eye. I have a ABIT NF7-S mobo, AMD Athlon XP
2600+. I just put it togher a couple of weeks ago. I did not see
anything regaring setting up the "Hardware Doctor". Did I miss something?

Javier
 
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Hi... Hardware Doctor is a utility included with the driver CD that
monitors temperatures and voltages. Probably also can be downloaded from
Abit site.


"Javier" <javier_s@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:X%Efc.683$7f2.250@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> DaveL wrote:
> > I think he has his Hardware Doctor improperly setup and his sensors (or
> > labels) are backwards. BTW, it is quite normal for heatsink compound to
> > "squeaze out" after the heatsink has been on for a while. Nothing wrong
> > with it. The compound naturally finds all of the pits and valleys
leaving
> > optimal contact between core and heatsink.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107g7vsrerpjs34@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >>I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
> >>I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
> >>My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.
> >>
> >>I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp is
> >>dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit
> >
> > default
> >
> >>setting 70C?
> >>
> >>Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is
measuring,
> >>and where from?
> >>
> >>As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after
> >
> > insulating
> >
> >>it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the
> >
> > case,
> >
> >>then closed the case.
> >>
> >>After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
> >>thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).
> >>
> >>Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to 55C
> >
> > and
> >
> >>system to 59.5C.
> >>
> >>Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.
> >>
> >>Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal
> >
> > compound.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> >>news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
> >>
> >>>51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>a
> >>
> >>>bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is supposed
> >
> > to
> >
> >>be
> >>
> >>>the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard, near
> >>
> >>cmos
> >>
> >>>battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
> >>>
> >>>Try a few things:
> >>>-Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably as
> >>
> >>high
> >>
> >>>as possible.
> >>>-Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
> >>
> >>should
> >>
> >>>not be directly under the other, if possible.
> >>>-After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
> >>>touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
> >>
> >>cover,
> >>
> >>>[] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus clogging
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
> >>>
> >>>What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>vanish like you describe it.
> >>>-Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What
> >
> > abou
> >
> >>t
> >>
> >>>the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on? If
> >
> > so,
> >
> >>>that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>
> >>>>I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> >>>>temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
> >>
> >>Hardware
> >>
> >>>>Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
> >>
> >>reading
> >>
> >>>>of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F,
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air
> >
> > circulation.
> >
> >>>I've
> >>>
> >>>>left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on.
> >>
> >>As
> >>
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>>stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side
> >>
> >>of
> >>
> >>>>the case and the temps came down.
> >>>>
> >>>>I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open,
> >
> > room
> >
> >>>fan
> >>>
> >>>>off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp
> >
> > seems
> >
> >>>>about
> >>>>normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
> >>>
> >>>always
> >>>
> >>>>run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
> >>>
> >>>high
> >>>
> >>>>system temp readings are coming from.
> >>>>
> >>>>I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>try
> >>>
> >>>>that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ken
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it,
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>>system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
> >>
> >>possible?
> >>
> >>>>>I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> >>>>>Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo
> >
> > or?
> >
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Wayne ][
> >>>>><Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> This message caught my eye. I have a ABIT NF7-S mobo, AMD Athlon XP
> 2600+. I just put it togher a couple of weeks ago. I did not see
> anything regaring setting up the "Hardware Doctor". Did I miss something?
>
> Javier
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

make sure you HSF is facing the right way
"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107umco6gu5ja14@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi... Hardware Doctor is a utility included with the driver CD that
> monitors temperatures and voltages. Probably also can be downloaded from
> Abit site.
>
>
> "Javier" <javier_s@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:X%Efc.683$7f2.250@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> > DaveL wrote:
> > > I think he has his Hardware Doctor improperly setup and his sensors
(or
> > > labels) are backwards. BTW, it is quite normal for heatsink compound
to
> > > "squeaze out" after the heatsink has been on for a while. Nothing
wrong
> > > with it. The compound naturally finds all of the pits and valleys
> leaving
> > > optimal contact between core and heatsink.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ken_B" <@> wrote in message
news:107g7vsrerpjs34@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >>I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
> > >>I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
> > >>My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.
> > >>
> > >>I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp
is
> > >>dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit
> > >
> > > default
> > >
> > >>setting 70C?
> > >>
> > >>Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is
> measuring,
> > >>and where from?
> > >>
> > >>As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after
> > >
> > > insulating
> > >
> > >>it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the
> > >
> > > case,
> > >
> > >>then closed the case.
> > >>
> > >>After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
> > >>thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).
> > >>
> > >>Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to
55C
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >>system to 59.5C.
> > >>
> > >>Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.
> > >>
> > >>Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal
> > >
> > > compound.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> > >>news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
> > >>
> > >>>51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous,
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > >>a
> > >>
> > >>>bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is
supposed
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > >>be
> > >>
> > >>>the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard,
near
> > >>
> > >>cmos
> > >>
> > >>>battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
> > >>>
> > >>>Try a few things:
> > >>>-Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably
as
> > >>
> > >>high
> > >>
> > >>>as possible.
> > >>>-Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
> > >>
> > >>should
> > >>
> > >>>not be directly under the other, if possible.
> > >>>-After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
> > >>>touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
> > >>
> > >>cover,
> > >>
> > >>>[] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus
clogging
> > >>
> > >>the
> > >>
> > >>>fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
> > >>>
> > >>>What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it
> > >
> > > should
> > >
> > >>>vanish like you describe it.
> > >>>-Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What
> > >
> > > abou
> > >
> > >>t
> > >>
> > >>>the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on?
If
> > >
> > > so,
> > >
> > >>>that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message
news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> > >>>
> > >>>>I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> > >>>>temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
> > >>
> > >>Hardware
> > >>
> > >>>>Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
> > >>
> > >>reading
> > >>
> > >>>>of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F,
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >>>the
> > >>>
> > >>>>side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air
> > >
> > > circulation.
> > >
> > >>>I've
> > >>>
> > >>>>left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it
on.
> > >>
> > >>As
> > >>
> > >>>I
> > >>>
> > >>>>stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open
side
> > >>
> > >>of
> > >>
> > >>>>the case and the temps came down.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open,
> > >
> > > room
> > >
> > >>>fan
> > >>>
> > >>>>off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp
> > >
> > > seems
> > >
> > >>>>about
> > >>>>normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that
have
> > >>>
> > >>>always
> > >>>
> > >>>>run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where
the
> > >>>
> > >>>high
> > >>>
> > >>>>system temp readings are coming from.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I
> > >
> > > should
> > >
> > >>>try
> > >>>
> > >>>>that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Ken
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it,
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >>>the
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Hi,
> > >>>>>I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
> > >>
> > >>possible?
> > >>
> > >>>>>I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> > >>>>>Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo
> > >
> > > or?
> > >
> > >>>>>--
> > >>>>>Wayne ][
> > >>>>><Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > This message caught my eye. I have a ABIT NF7-S mobo, AMD Athlon XP
> > 2600+. I just put it togher a couple of weeks ago. I did not see
> > anything regaring setting up the "Hardware Doctor". Did I miss
something?
> >
> > Javier
> >
>
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Ken_B wrote:
> Hi... Hardware Doctor is a utility included with the driver CD that
> monitors temperatures and voltages. Probably also can be downloaded from
> Abit site.
>
>
> "Javier" <javier_s@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:X%Efc.683$7f2.250@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>DaveL wrote:
>>
>>>I think he has his Hardware Doctor improperly setup and his sensors (or
>>>labels) are backwards. BTW, it is quite normal for heatsink compound to
>>>"squeaze out" after the heatsink has been on for a while. Nothing wrong
>>>with it. The compound naturally finds all of the pits and valleys
>
> leaving
>
>>>optimal contact between core and heatsink.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107g7vsrerpjs34@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
>>>>I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
>>>>My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.
>>>>
>>>>I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp is
>>>>dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit
>>>
>>>default
>>>
>>>
>>>>setting 70C?
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is
>
> measuring,
>
>>>>and where from?
>>>>
>>>>As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after
>>>
>>>insulating
>>>
>>>
>>>>it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the
>>>
>>>case,
>>>
>>>
>>>>then closed the case.
>>>>
>>>>After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
>>>>thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).
>>>>
>>>>Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to 55C
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>system to 59.5C.
>>>>
>>>>Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal
>>>
>>>compound.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
>>>>news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous,
>>>
>>>but
>>>
>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is supposed
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard, near
>>>>
>>>>cmos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
>>>>>
>>>>>Try a few things:
>>>>>-Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably as
>>>>
>>>>high
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>as possible.
>>>>>-Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
>>>>
>>>>should
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>not be directly under the other, if possible.
>>>>>-After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
>>>>>touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
>>>>
>>>>cover,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus clogging
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
>>>>>
>>>>>What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>vanish like you describe it.
>>>>>-Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What
>>>
>>>abou
>>>
>>>
>>>>t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on? If
>>>
>>>so,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
>>>>>>temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
>>>>
>>>>Hardware
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
>>>>
>>>>reading
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air
>>>
>>>circulation.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I've
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it on.
>>>>
>>>>As
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open side
>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the case and the temps came down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open,
>>>
>>>room
>>>
>>>
>>>>>fan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp
>>>
>>>seems
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that have
>>>>>
>>>>>always
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where the
>>>>>
>>>>>high
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>system temp readings are coming from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I
>>>
>>>should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>try
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
>>>>
>>>>possible?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
>>>>>>>Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo
>>>
>>>or?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Wayne ][
>>>>>>><Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>This message caught my eye. I have a ABIT NF7-S mobo, AMD Athlon XP
>>2600+. I just put it togher a couple of weeks ago. I did not see
>>anything regaring setting up the "Hardware Doctor". Did I miss something?
>>
>>Javier
>>
>
>
>
OK I did intall the driver you are talking about, however on the
previous post they were talking
about the wiring possibly being incorrect. That is what caught my eye.
What, or where does the
the wiring come in?

Javier
 
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I didn't read your post carefully enough.

I don't know what that post was about either...there are very limited setup
options in Hardware Doctor. The program is designed for Abit boards, so
there should be no problems with sensors or labels if used with the board it
came with,
seems to me.

I have come to the conclusion that my board is defective.



"Javier Salazar" <s_spartan77-posts@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aeQfc.164$lP6.121@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> Ken_B wrote:
> > Hi... Hardware Doctor is a utility included with the driver CD that
> > monitors temperatures and voltages. Probably also can be downloaded from
> > Abit site.
> >
> >
> > "Javier" <javier_s@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:X%Efc.683$7f2.250@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >>DaveL wrote:
> >>
> >>>I think he has his Hardware Doctor improperly setup and his sensors (or
> >>>labels) are backwards. BTW, it is quite normal for heatsink compound
to
> >>>"squeaze out" after the heatsink has been on for a while. Nothing
wrong
> >>>with it. The compound naturally finds all of the pits and valleys
> >
> > leaving
> >
> >>>optimal contact between core and heatsink.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107g7vsrerpjs34@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I have a standard el-cheapo ATX mid-tower case.
> >>>>I have an exhaust fan right next to the CPU.
> >>>>My hard drives are separated by about 1/2-inch.
> >>>>
> >>>>I still don't understand why people are saying 57C on the system temp
is
> >>>>dangerously high. Why is Abit's Hardware Doctor program upper limit
> >>>
> >>>default
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>setting 70C?
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway, I'd like to know what the system temperature monitor is
> >
> > measuring,
> >
> >>>>and where from?
> >>>>
> >>>>As an experiment I placed one of those HVAC thermomenters (after
> >>>
> >>>insulating
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>it) between the two hard drives, stuck another through the back of the
> >>>
> >>>case,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>then closed the case.
> >>>>
> >>>>After about twenty minutes, CPU was up to 60C, system up to 63C. HVAC
> >>>>thermometers showed HD's at 101F (38C), inside case about 88F (31C).
> >>>>
> >>>>Took side of case back off: after about five minutes CPU dropped to
55C
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>system to 59.5C.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thermometer on HDs still going up...showing about 110F.
> >>>>
> >>>>Maybe I just need a better case with more fans and better thermal
> >>>
> >>>compound.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> >>>>news:gxUdc.78217$BD3.9066527@juliett.dax.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>51'C at idle cpu is very acceptable temp, also 60'C is not dangerous,
> >>>
> >>>but
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>bit high. However 57'C system temp is DANGEROUSLY high! It is
supposed
> >>>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>be
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the temperature inside your pc. Usually monitored on motherboard,
near
> >>>>
> >>>>cmos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>battery. So I guess your hard drives be too close to it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Try a few things:
> >>>>>-Install atleast 1 80mm exhause fan, inside back of case. preferably
as
> >>>>
> >>>>high
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>as possible.
> >>>>>-Relocate your harddrives, so there is 1 free space between them. One
> >>>>
> >>>>should
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>not be directly under the other, if possible.
> >>>>>-After taking the side cover off completely, lean it with upper edge
> >>>>>touching the case while base about 2-3cm apart. Like /[], where / is
> >>>>
> >>>>cover,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>[] is your pc :) It helps prevent dust to get inside pc, (thus
clogging
> >>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>fans and fins) reduce noise, and somewhat improve the airflow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What kind of compound are you putting on the cpu? I don't think it
> >>>
> >>>should
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>vanish like you describe it.
> >>>>>-Make sure your heatsink is nice and tightly secured on the cpu. What
> >>>
> >>>abou
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>t
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the tension of the mounting clip of hsf? Is it very easy to get on?
If
> >>>
> >>>so,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>that might explain vaporised paste and high temp.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message
news:107fvsu591n4620@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I've been trying to find more information and exactly what "system
> >>>>>>temperature" means and where the reading would come from. But the
> >>>>
> >>>>Hardware
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Doctor has a default alarm setting of 70 degrees Centigrade, so a
> >>>>
> >>>>reading
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>of 57C is still in the safe range, apparently.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>When I wrote the post yesterday, the room temperature was about 80F,
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>side of the case was off. Don't know how that affected air
> >>>
> >>>circulation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>I've
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>left it off because I notice CPU temps seemed to be higher with it
on.
> >>>>
> >>>>As
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>stated, I turned a room fan on low and pointed it toward the open
side
> >>>>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>the case and the temps came down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I've been booted up for about a half hour this morning (case open,
> >>>
> >>>room
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>fan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>off) and the CPU temp is 51C and system temp is 56C. The CPU temp
> >>>
> >>>seems
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>about
> >>>>>>normal, judging from other posts I've read. I have two HD's that
have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>always
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>run hot, almost too hot to touch after a while. Maybe that's where
the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>high
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>system temp readings are coming from.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I've been reading about Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Maybe I
> >>>
> >>>should
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>try
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>that on my Athlon 2500+ Barton CPU.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ken
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:4077e1a3_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Ken_B" <@> wrote
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I've had the side of the case off and a room fan blowing on it,
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>system temp is reading 57.5 while the CPU is reading 52.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>>I never heard of such a high system temp. . .57°C ??? Is that
> >>>>
> >>>>possible?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>I would have thought your Hard-Disks would have melted by now!
> >>>>>>>Do you have like a tiny case with cables packed all over your mobo
> >>>
> >>>or?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>Wayne ][
> >>>>>>><Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! 😛>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>This message caught my eye. I have a ABIT NF7-S mobo, AMD Athlon XP
> >>2600+. I just put it togher a couple of weeks ago. I did not see
> >>anything regaring setting up the "Hardware Doctor". Did I miss
something?
> >>
> >>Javier
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> OK I did intall the driver you are talking about, however on the
> previous post they were talking
> about the wiring possibly being incorrect. That is what caught my eye.
> What, or where does the
> the wiring come in?
>
> Javier
 
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Postscript: yes, the board is apparently defective. I have a new board now,
and the CPU is running much cooler (around 40C).

Thanks for all the replies.

Ken


"Ken_B" <@> wrote in message news:107ed7h7ngi5oc5@corp.supernews.com...
> I just had a CPU temperature alarm on my Abit VA-10 board. Running an
Athlon
> 2500+. It's been running around 54-55C, but it's at 60C now, the default
> upper range of Hardware Doctor. (It's a warm day, and I don't have the A/C
> on). I knocked it up another couple of degrees.
>
> I bought a bigger cooler fan which was too large to fit in the tight
space.
> Is 60C safe, and any other way to cool it down besides a larger fan?
>
> Another thing I've noticed about heat sinks: I've noticed that when I
remove
> a heat sink, there appears to be very little heat sink compound left on it
> or the CPU, even though I applied a thin layer at installation. Why would
> that be?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ken
>
>
 

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