Athlon X3 450 vs AMD FX-4100

[yummerzzz]

Clearly you miss the point. So it beats Athlon big deal, that's like a 20 year old bragging he beat up an old lady. The Bulldozer is junk when it comes to gaming and so is the Athlon. He would be better off with a Black Edition Phenom II.

No it's not t's called staying on topic and answering OP's question...

 

[rds1220]

No it's not t's called staying on topic and answering OP's question...

And we all did, we said to get a Phenom II quad core Black Edition CPU because both the Athlon and Bulldozer aren't that great at gaming. Want to try again?

 

[stant1rm]

Just get a 965BE.

 

[yummerzzz]

And we all did, we said to get a Phenom II quad core Black Edition CPU because both the Athlon and Bulldozer aren't that great at gaming. Want to try again?

That's not what OP asked

Hello

Is there a big difference in gaming performance between these 2 cpus?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103886
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996

is the price difference worth it?

Want to try again?

 

[rds1220]

If you haven't gotten by now you're not going to. Neither are worth it and a Phenom II is the better choice. Like I said if you haven't gotten by now you're not going to.

 

[nekulturny]

Neither... This one...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

The end.

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

Neither... This one...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

The end.

+1 Absolutely! End it here. I don't know how this thread lasted so long when the obvious answer is the 965 BE.

 

[amuffin]

PHENOM II X4 965BE

 

[nekulturny]

some say that bulldozer is future proof

Anyone who uses a term like "future proof" in regards to computers, should have everything they say taken with a grain of salt. There is no such thing as future proof. One can buy slightly better parts than they need at the time for the sake of a little longevity, but any CPU and Video card you go with is pretty much going to be junk in 4-5 years, no matter how nice it is today.

The only things in your system that are truly future proof are your case, power supply, optical drive, and to some extent your hard drive. Faster hard drives may come out, but most likely you can still use the older one as a secondary.

Now back to the topic at hand. Between the CPUs you've mentioned and the one we suggested, the Phenom II 965 has the best chance of guarenteeing you 3 to 4 years of relatively smooth gameplay (of course depending on what video card you pair it with), and if its $16 more at your local shop its worth every penny more over the FX-4100. Although, they are also $109 from Newegg.com currently.

The Athlon II basically is the same CPU as the Phenom II, however the Phenom II has one more core than the x3 450, and the P II also has an L3 cache, which the Athlon II does not. Depending on the game you're playing, this lacking cache can have anywhere from a 5% to a 20% hit in gaming performance. Buy the better product and always remember "you get what you pay for".

As far as Windows 8, even if there is an improvement, its not expected to be greater than 5-10 percent. Assuming Windows8 improves anything, this would merely make the FX-4100 as good as the Phenom II 965, not better than it.

 

[nekulturny]

Yea, I guess I should mention that. Quite frankly, I hate Intel, not because of their products, they absolutely do make stronger CPUs than AMD, hands down. I dislike Intel because of the way they do business, and the illegal methods they have used to get ahead of AMD in the CPU market.

Even so, I'll still give it to you straight, the Phenom II 965 is superior to the FX-4100 and thats the way it is. Alot of smart people in this thread has told you the same thing I'm telling you, Urban Legend is a smart guy who "does this stuff for a living", Rds1220, quite frankly we can't stand each other, but he also "does this stuff for a living", I'm in school to "do this stuff for a living", take our words for it and make the wiser financial decision.

 

[nekulturny]

you do realize that running a GTX 550Ti on an ASUS FX 'Tooth' and 975BE @ 4.0GHz is sacrilegious right.?!

I do actually. See, I bought the board for the 5 year warranty more than anything. It is my intention to drop an 8 PileDriver on it or whatever the next generation AM3+ is (Steamroller?). Based on Quad Trinity's benches against the i3+ HyperThreading, I'm thinking PileDrivers might actually be on par with SB/IB i5's, works for me.

The video card as well, at the time it was what I could afford. I know AMD uses sockets longer than Intel does, the system I have currently is one that is incomplete at this point in time. I'm still using VGA monitors, thats also something that needs to be addressed before a more powerful video card is really justifiable.

 

[nekulturny]

The same people came in and had a pansy party... pfft.

965 BE= FOR THE WIN

You still here?

Holy cow! you're alive!!! Hey bud.

 

[nekulturny]

get a room.

Oh come on, you know you're glad to seem him too!

 

[nekulturny]

I see too much of him.....
just won't leave me alone on Steam...

I smell a sore loser. :lol:

You have been killed by Recon-Uk.

 

[nekulturny]

The OPs has heard a chorus of which CPU is the best choice, would it be less hi-jackingish if we ended each post with..



Phenom II 965 Black Edition with C3 stepping? $109.99 w/ Free shipping, don't delay! Order Today!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

 

[yummerzzz]

But it ended with me being right :'D

 

[yummerzzz]

What?!
I don't know if this is even on topic anymore 0.o

 

[nekulturny]

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab220/gsdewd/Forum pics/overconfident.gif

Actually, I don't know about that picture.. I don't know how well cats fair against hawks, but I've seen cats take on dogs much bigger than they are and win. My mother also told me this story when she was a little girl, she lived in farm land, the neighbors had this big dog they let run loose who was aggressive one day she was walking to the mailbox (far away from the house) and the dog came after her, he cat "Kitty" came out of nowhere and gouged the dog's eye out.

 

[yummerzzz]

Listen - This is not in any way contributing to this thread, if you really ARE 22 years old, you need to act it.

Thread is over, OP has his answer, leave it.

 

[nekulturny]

Aye Aye sir *salutes*

 

[yummerzzz]

I thought i would do a mindless speech like you... i look up to little people like you

Ahh sorry my mistake, i have done enough showing you up.
Stay on topic.. great answer!

www.excusetheweak.com

Mindless speech?
You call that a speech? That was the shortest and most pathetic speech I have ever seen in my entire life. You came to this thread to flame a user? go ahead, I honestly could no care if someone like you tries to insult me.

 

[yummerzzz]

Ganging up on someone isn't banter because it isn't funny.
You guys can continue being internet tough guys if you like.

 

[nekulturny]

 

[yummerzzz]

FX user insult, while Recon was trying to insult me, 2 on 1, ganging up.

Recon, I didn't leave the thread because you didn't listen, it's common sense to come back until you do listen.

 

[yummerzzz]

I was referring to when I told you specifically to leave the thread since OP had his answer.

Continue being an internet tough guy while I sit here playing games perfectly fine on my current gaming rig which runs games perfectly for me.