Athlon XP 2100+ to mobile 2600+ worth the upgrage?

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Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (More info?)

So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35 400
& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).

BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.

yuki
 
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OK, here's what you do.
Sell the board, sink and chip and get a DFI Infinity, mobile Barton,
Thermalright SLK800-A and 38 x 80mm fan.


"yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
400
> & 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).
>
> BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
>
> yuki
>
>
 
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QBall wrote:
> OK, here's what you do.
> Sell the board, sink and chip and get a DFI Infinity, mobile Barton,
> Thermalright SLK800-A and 38 x 80mm fan.

Why would i want a mobile board? why would i want to go from a dual
processor system to a single processor?

About the Athlon MP vs Athlon XP, the Athlon MP has more cache if i
remember correctly.

Now what is the difference between the Barton and the Athlon core is
what i'me researching now.

Also do you think its worth the wait instead to go with an Opteron
system? Or simply upgrade this one?

Thanks!

>
>
> "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
>
>>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
>
> 400
>
>>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
>>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).
>>
>>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
>>
>>yuki
>>
>>
>
>
>
 
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yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M

"yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35 400
> & 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).
>
> BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
>
> yuki
>
>
 
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nick wrote:
> yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M

2400XP-M only has 256kb L2 cache as far as i know.
The barton 2600 has 512kb. Plus i don't have to start modding my cpu hehe.

>
> "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
>
>>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35 400
>>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
>>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).
>>
>>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
>>
>>yuki
>>
>>
>
>
>
 
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"nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
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> yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
>
> "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
400
> > & 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> > especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
fan/heatsink).
> >
> > BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> >
> > yuki
> >
> >
>
>

How is the overclocking with the mobile 2400+ ?

It seems that people have been able to run mobile 2500/2600+ up to
2.4/2.5GHz without too much trouble.
In fact, I can actually run my XP 2100+ close to 2.2GHz, but it runs quite
hot for my liking because I had to bump up the vcore to 1.75V to reach
stability with Prime95.

IMHO, extra $25 for 2600+ is worth the price to get faster & cooler CPU, but
if 2400+ can overclock almost as well as 2600+, then I rather not spend the
bucks (save for a new 64-bit system).

yuki
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (More info?)

"Yoyoma_2" <Yoyoma_2@[at-]Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:AXfec.79885$Ig.16337@pd7tw2no...
> nick wrote:
> > yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
>
> 2400XP-M only has 256kb L2 cache as far as i know.


Then you don't know very far.
All XP-M's are Bartons.


> The barton 2600 has 512kb. Plus i don't have to start modding my cpu
hehe.
>
> >
> > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> >
> >>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
400
> >>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> >>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
fan/heatsink).
> >>
> >>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> >>
> >>yuki
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (More info?)

No, I've got one and its a Barton.


"Yoyoma_2" <Yoyoma_2@[at-]Hotmail.com> wrote in message news:AXfec.79885$Ig.16337@pd7tw2no...
> nick wrote:
> > yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
>
> 2400XP-M only has 256kb L2 cache as far as i know.
> The barton 2600 has 512kb. Plus i don't have to start modding my cpu hehe.
>
> >
> > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> >
> >>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35 400
> >>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> >>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).
> >>
> >>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> >>
> >>yuki
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
 
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No, not all of them 😉
eg the 2400-m comes in both 256 and 512k. same for 2200-m.
F=desktop G=mobile
3=256k 4=512k

AXMA2000FUT3C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (72W)
AXMA2200FUT3C AthlonXP Mobile 2200+ (72W)
AXMA2400FKT3C AthlonXP Mobile 2400+ (72W)
AXMA2400FUT4C AthlonXP Mobile 2400+ (72W)
AXMA2500FKT4C AthlonXP Mobile 2500+ (72W)
AXMA2600FKT3C AthlonXP Mobile 2600+ (72W)
AXMA2600FKT4C AthlonXP Mobile 2600+ (72W)
AXMA2800FKT4C AthlonXP Mobile 2800+ (72W)
AXMA3000FKT4C AthlonXP Mobile 3000+ (72W)
AXMD1700FQQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1700+ (35W)
AXMD1800FQQ3B AthlonXP Mobile 1800+ (35W)
AXMD1800FVQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1800+ (35W)
AXMD1800GJQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1800+ (35W)
AXMD1900FJQ3B AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (35W)
AXMD1900FJQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (35W)
AXMD1900FVQ3B AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (35W)
AXMD1900FVQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (35W)
AXMD1900GJQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (35W)
AXMD2000FJQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (35W)
AXMD2000GJQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (35W)
AXMD2000GJQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (35W)
AXMD2200FJQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 2200+ (35W)
AXMD2200FJQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2200+ (35W)
AXMD2200GJQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2200+ (35W)
AXMD2400FJQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2400+ (35W)
AXMD2400GJQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2400+ (35W)
AXMG2600FQQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2600+ (47W)
AXMH1800FHQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1800+ (45W)
AXMH1900FLQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (45W)
AXMH2000FLQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (45W)
AXMH2000FQQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (45W)
AXMH2200FQQ3C AthlonXP Mobile 2200+ (45W)
AXMH2400FQQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2400+ (45W)
AXMH2500FQQ4C AthlonXP Mobile 2500+ (45W)
AXMS1600FWS3B AthlonXP Mobile 1600+ (25W)
AXMS1600GXS3C AthlonXP Mobile 1600+ (25W)
AXMS1700GXS3C AthlonXP Mobile 1700+ (25W)
AXMS1800GXS3C AthlonXP Mobile 1800+ (25W)
AXMS1800GXS4C AthlonXP Mobile 1800+ (25W)
AXMS1900GXS4C AthlonXP Mobile 1900+ (25W)
AXMS2000GXS4C AthlonXP Mobile 2000+ (25W)
AXMS2100GXS4C AthlonXP Mobile 2100+ (25W)
AXMT2200GXS4C AthlonXP Mobile 2200+ (25W)

"QBall" <qball__@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:c5c7fc$ppv$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>
> "Yoyoma_2" <Yoyoma_2@[at-]Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AXfec.79885$Ig.16337@pd7tw2no...
> > nick wrote:
> > > yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
> >
> > 2400XP-M only has 256kb L2 cache as far as i know.
>
>
> Then you don't know very far.
> All XP-M's are Bartons.
>
>
> > The barton 2600 has 512kb. Plus i don't have to start modding my cpu
> hehe.
> >
> > >
> > > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > >
> > >>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
> 400
> > >>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> > >>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
> fan/heatsink).
> > >>
> > >>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> > >>
> > >>yuki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
 
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"yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message news:itednXue5J_yIOTdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> "nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
> news:Xkfec.32019$Y%6.4002893@wards.force9.net...
> > yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
> >
> > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > > So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
> 400
> > > & 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> > > especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
> fan/heatsink).
> > >
> > > BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> > >
> > > yuki
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> How is the overclocking with the mobile 2400+ ?
>
> It seems that people have been able to run mobile 2500/2600+ up to
> 2.4/2.5GHz without too much trouble.
> In fact, I can actually run my XP 2100+ close to 2.2GHz, but it runs quite
> hot for my liking because I had to bump up the vcore to 1.75V to reach
> stability with Prime95.
>
> IMHO, extra $25 for 2600+ is worth the price to get faster & cooler CPU, but
> if 2400+ can overclock almost as well as 2600+, then I rather not spend the
> bucks (save for a new 64-bit system).
>
> yuki
>
>



how does 2.GHz sound? they are the same chips. the only difference is the week.
 
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"nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
news😛ulec.29358$h44.4203090@stones.force9.net...
>
> "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:itednXue5J_yIOTdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> > "nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
> > news:Xkfec.32019$Y%6.4002893@wards.force9.net...
> > > yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
> > >
> > > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > > > So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle
AN35
> > 400
> > > > & 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile
upgrade,
> > > > especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
> > fan/heatsink).
> > > >
> > > > BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> > > >
> > > > yuki
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > How is the overclocking with the mobile 2400+ ?
> >
> > It seems that people have been able to run mobile 2500/2600+ up to
> > 2.4/2.5GHz without too much trouble.
> > In fact, I can actually run my XP 2100+ close to 2.2GHz, but it runs
quite
> > hot for my liking because I had to bump up the vcore to 1.75V to reach
> > stability with Prime95.
> >
> > IMHO, extra $25 for 2600+ is worth the price to get faster & cooler CPU,
but
> > if 2400+ can overclock almost as well as 2600+, then I rather not spend
the
> > bucks (save for a new 64-bit system).
> >
> > yuki
> >
>
>
> how does 2.GHz sound? they are the same chips. the only difference is the
week.
>

I am currently running a regular XP 2100+ at 2.1GHz already (210x10 @
1.625V)
Does not seem to make sense to switch to a XP-mobile 2400+ running at 2GHz.
What am I missing?

yuki
 
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"yuki" <notread_news@trashed.net> wrote in message
news:08mdnarv4bH4duTdRVn_iw@comcast.com...

>
> I am currently running a regular XP 2100+ at 2.1GHz already (210x10 @
> 1.625V)
> Does not seem to make sense to switch to a XP-mobile 2400+ running at
2GHz.
> What am I missing?
>
> yuki
>
>


Bartons have more cache. Better performers.

However the difference is not night & day, and depends on what you use the
machine for.

Why not get a better heatsink up the vcore, and push the 2100XP as far as it
will go? Bet it has more than 2.1Ghz to give yet.
 
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if ya running 210x10 from a 2100+ i think this is an excellent overclock and
i would keep it don't you would need the extra power, if you do video
encoding / editing then you will benefit from the 512kb l2 cache of the
barton.

On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:21:43 -0700, "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote:

>:>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35 400
>:>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
>:>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD fan/heatsink).
>:>
>:>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
>:>
>:>yuki
>:>

-----
Lee.
 
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"yuki" <notread_news@trashed.net> wrote in message news:08mdnarv4bH4duTdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
>
> "nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
> news😛ulec.29358$h44.4203090@stones.force9.net...
> >
> > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:itednXue5J_yIOTdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> > > "nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
> > > news:Xkfec.32019$Y%6.4002893@wards.force9.net...
> > > > yea but why get the 2600? get the 2400XP-M
> > > >
> > > > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > > > > So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle
> AN35
> > > 400
> > > > > & 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile
> upgrade,
> > > > > especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
> > > fan/heatsink).
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> > > > >
> > > > > yuki
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > How is the overclocking with the mobile 2400+ ?
> > >
> > > It seems that people have been able to run mobile 2500/2600+ up to
> > > 2.4/2.5GHz without too much trouble.
> > > In fact, I can actually run my XP 2100+ close to 2.2GHz, but it runs
> quite
> > > hot for my liking because I had to bump up the vcore to 1.75V to reach
> > > stability with Prime95.
> > >
> > > IMHO, extra $25 for 2600+ is worth the price to get faster & cooler CPU,
> but
> > > if 2400+ can overclock almost as well as 2600+, then I rather not spend
> the
> > > bucks (save for a new 64-bit system).
> > >
> > > yuki
> > >
> >
> >
> > how does 2.GHz sound? they are the same chips. the only difference is the
> week.
> >
>

lol typo. that was meant to be 2.7ghz.

> I am currently running a regular XP 2100+ at 2.1GHz already (210x10 @
> 1.625V)
> Does not seem to make sense to switch to a XP-mobile 2400+ running at 2GHz.
> What am I missing?
>
> yuki
>
>
 
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That is much better :)

Is it air-cooled, how hot is the CPU? What is the FSB & multiplier set to?
I am trying to keep my CPU fan at a medium speed to keep the noise down, so
I would not be pushing it to max.

Thanks,

yuki

"nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
news:7Wwec.29422$h44.4221892@stones.force9.net...
>
>
> lol typo. that was meant to be 2.7ghz.
>
> > I am currently running a regular XP 2100+ at 2.1GHz already (210x10 @
> > 1.625V)
> > Does not seem to make sense to switch to a XP-mobile 2400+ running at
2GHz.
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > yuki
> >
> >
>
>
 
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"Yoyoma_2" <Yoyoma_2@[at-]Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Y9eec.80228$oR5.19478@pd7tw3no...
> QBall wrote:
> > OK, here's what you do.
> > Sell the board, sink and chip and get a DFI Infinity, mobile Barton,
> > Thermalright SLK800-A and 38 x 80mm fan.
>
> Why would i want a mobile board? why would i want to go from a dual
> processor system to a single processor?
>
> About the Athlon MP vs Athlon XP, the Athlon MP has more cache if i
> remember correctly.
>
> Now what is the difference between the Barton and the Athlon core is
> what i'me researching now.
>
> Also do you think its worth the wait instead to go with an Opteron
> system? Or simply upgrade this one?
>
> Thanks!
>
> >
> >
> > "yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:96Kdnfuxjbm6k-TdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> >
> >>So I was not going to spend any more money on this system (Shuttle AN35
> >
> > 400
> >
> >>& 2x512 PC3500 RAM) but the mobile 2600+ might be a worthwhile upgrade,
> >>especially if I can get about $40-50 for my 2100+ (with AMD
fan/heatsink).
> >>
> >>BTW, 2100+ is running very well at 210x10.
> >>
> >>yuki
Athlon MP is the same chip as the XP only diff is the last L5 is joined.
the shuttle AN35 is only a single processor board.
 
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air cooled with sp97. 13.5x200

"yuki" <notread_news@comcast.net> wrote in message news:BqidneQgjrXC9Obd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> That is much better :)
>
> Is it air-cooled, how hot is the CPU? What is the FSB & multiplier set to?
> I am trying to keep my CPU fan at a medium speed to keep the noise down, so
> I would not be pushing it to max.
>
> Thanks,
>
> yuki
>
> "nick" <no@spam.thx> wrote in message
> news:7Wwec.29422$h44.4221892@stones.force9.net...
> >
> >
> > lol typo. that was meant to be 2.7ghz.
> >
> > > I am currently running a regular XP 2100+ at 2.1GHz already (210x10 @
> > > 1.625V)
> > > Does not seem to make sense to switch to a XP-mobile 2400+ running at
> 2GHz.
> > > What am I missing?
> > >
> > > yuki
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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