ATI AIW 9800 Pro and Audigy2 SZ Audio Echo problem - Fix

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Hello,

For those of you who might be suffering with audio echo when using the
MMC's TV and/or using TV On-Demand (version 9) with an Audigy2 SZ card
(latest drivers), here is a possible solution. It fixed it here. YMMV.

It started 36 hours ago when I reinstalled everything, but this time I
was going to use a Audigy2 sound card. As soon as I ran TV after the new
installations the echo was there. Sure it could be stopped by going into
Play Control and muting Line-In, but there wasn't anything to mute when
TV On-Demand was selected. Plus I didn't have to do anything like that
before.

I looked at the Setup and the Initialization Wizard many times, but
nothing clicked.

After having looked at the Initialization Wizard for the tenth time, in
the "Sound Initialization Wizard" area I place a check mark to "Mute
Audio During Scheduled Record" and for kicks, another check mark to
"Preserve TV On-Demand Video Between Sessions" in the "TV On-Demand
Initialization Wizard".

Neither of which I was originally to concerned about. For the first one,
I didn't plan on doing any scheduled recordings, and I could care less
if the .VCR file was saved. Actually, I would prefer not to eat up space
on the hard drive unnecessarily.

Anyway, I hit "Next" and then "Finish".

As soon as I hit the "Finish" button, the echo disappeared and has not
returned. It has not returned even if both option have their check marks
removed. The MMC is now correctly sending the audio to the Audigy2 the
way it is suppose to be sending it.

If I go into TV On-Demand, and back the live feed back 30 seconds and
then open the Live window, which ever window currently has focus, the
sound is heard, not both at the same time, not endlessly feeding back on
itself.

I've called ATI and have given them the complete steps to test this and
they seemed very interested in this fix.

So, it appears to be some kind of problem with the Initialization Wizard
not detecting the Audigy2 cards correctly, because it does work
eventually.

On a side note, I also mentioned the spelling error in the "Unable To
Configure Audio" dialog box:

"Please select the audio line to which you have connected vour video
hardware from the list below."

Vy video vis vennected voo vi Vine-Vin. Vhere vis vours?

--

Mark

 

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Mark wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> For those of you who might be suffering with audio echo when using the
> MMC's TV and/or using TV On-Demand (version 9) with an Audigy2 SZ card
> (latest drivers), here is a possible solution. It fixed it here. YMMV.
>
> It started 36 hours ago when I reinstalled everything, but this time I
> was going to use a Audigy2 sound card. As soon as I ran TV after the new
> installations the echo was there. Sure it could be stopped by going into
> Play Control and muting Line-In, but there wasn't anything to mute when
> TV On-Demand was selected. Plus I didn't have to do anything like that
> before.
>
> I looked at the Setup and the Initialization Wizard many times, but
> nothing clicked.
>
> After having looked at the Initialization Wizard for the tenth time, in
> the "Sound Initialization Wizard" area I place a check mark to "Mute
> Audio During Scheduled Record" and for kicks, another check mark to
> "Preserve TV On-Demand Video Between Sessions" in the "TV On-Demand
> Initialization Wizard".
>
> Neither of which I was originally to concerned about. For the first one,
> I didn't plan on doing any scheduled recordings, and I could care less
> if the .VCR file was saved. Actually, I would prefer not to eat up space
> on the hard drive unnecessarily.
>
> Anyway, I hit "Next" and then "Finish".
>
> As soon as I hit the "Finish" button, the echo disappeared and has not
> returned. It has not returned even if both option have their check marks
> removed. The MMC is now correctly sending the audio to the Audigy2 the
> way it is suppose to be sending it.
>
> If I go into TV On-Demand, and back the live feed back 30 seconds and
> then open the Live window, which ever window currently has focus, the
> sound is heard, not both at the same time, not endlessly feeding back on
> itself.
>
> I've called ATI and have given them the complete steps to test this and
> they seemed very interested in this fix.
>
> So, it appears to be some kind of problem with the Initialization Wizard
> not detecting the Audigy2 cards correctly, because it does work
> eventually.
>
> On a side note, I also mentioned the spelling error in the "Unable To
> Configure Audio" dialog box:
>
> "Please select the audio line to which you have connected vour video
> hardware from the list below."
>
> Vy video vis vennected voo vi Vine-Vin. Vhere vis vours?
>
> --
>
> Mark

Great work Mark
btw ATI is disgusting for spelling mistakes in almost everything they
write, be it drivers registry entries manuals help files you name it. It
is sad that in Canada, a world leader in the field of communications,
they can't use a spell checker and a human (probably white)to go over
their items before release.

Gordon

 

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:35:25 GMT, Gordon Scott
<gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:

>Mark wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For those of you who might be suffering with audio echo when using the
>> MMC's TV and/or using TV On-Demand (version 9) with an Audigy2 SZ card
>> (latest drivers), here is a possible solution. It fixed it here. YMMV.
>>
>> It started 36 hours ago when I reinstalled everything, but this time I
>> was going to use a Audigy2 sound card. As soon as I ran TV after the new
>> installations the echo was there. Sure it could be stopped by going into
>> Play Control and muting Line-In, but there wasn't anything to mute when
>> TV On-Demand was selected. Plus I didn't have to do anything like that
>> before.
>>
>> I looked at the Setup and the Initialization Wizard many times, but
>> nothing clicked.
>>
>> After having looked at the Initialization Wizard for the tenth time, in
>> the "Sound Initialization Wizard" area I place a check mark to "Mute
>> Audio During Scheduled Record" and for kicks, another check mark to
>> "Preserve TV On-Demand Video Between Sessions" in the "TV On-Demand
>> Initialization Wizard".
>>
>> Neither of which I was originally to concerned about. For the first one,
>> I didn't plan on doing any scheduled recordings, and I could care less
>> if the .VCR file was saved. Actually, I would prefer not to eat up space
>> on the hard drive unnecessarily.
>>
>> Anyway, I hit "Next" and then "Finish".
>>
>> As soon as I hit the "Finish" button, the echo disappeared and has not
>> returned. It has not returned even if both option have their check marks
>> removed. The MMC is now correctly sending the audio to the Audigy2 the
>> way it is suppose to be sending it.
>>
>> If I go into TV On-Demand, and back the live feed back 30 seconds and
>> then open the Live window, which ever window currently has focus, the
>> sound is heard, not both at the same time, not endlessly feeding back on
>> itself.
>>
>> I've called ATI and have given them the complete steps to test this and
>> they seemed very interested in this fix.
>>
>> So, it appears to be some kind of problem with the Initialization Wizard
>> not detecting the Audigy2 cards correctly, because it does work
>> eventually.
>>
>> On a side note, I also mentioned the spelling error in the "Unable To
>> Configure Audio" dialog box:
>>
>> "Please select the audio line to which you have connected vour video
>> hardware from the list below."
>>
>> Vy video vis vennected voo vi Vine-Vin. Vhere vis vours?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mark
>
>Great work Mark
>btw ATI is disgusting for spelling mistakes in almost everything they
>write, be it drivers registry entries manuals help files you name it. It
>is sad that in Canada, a world leader in the field of communications,
>they can't use a spell checker and a human (probably white)to go over
>their items before release.
>
>Gordon


Why a white human, Gordon? They come in different colours, you know.
And, strangely perhaps to you, it doesn't make any difference to their
language skills.

And I can't say that I've noticed that Ati are any worse than other
companies for their spelling - apart from the fact that, to me, North
American spellings never look right. I have noticed that your
grammatic skills leave a lot to be desired, though...

patrickp

patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

 

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You wrote in news:b4npc0d1mt0b659ni18od0v4mactbj9n2c@4ax.com thusly:

> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:35:25 GMT, Gordon Scott
> <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Mark wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For those of you who might be suffering with audio echo when using
>>> the MMC's TV and/or using TV On-Demand (version 9) with an Audigy2
>>> SZ card (latest drivers), here is a possible solution. It fixed it
>>> here. YMMV.
>>>
>>> It started 36 hours ago when I reinstalled everything, but this time
>>> I was going to use a Audigy2 sound card. As soon as I ran TV after
>>> the new installations the echo was there. Sure it could be stopped
>>> by going into Play Control and muting Line-In, but there wasn't
>>> anything to mute when TV On-Demand was selected. Plus I didn't have
>>> to do anything like that before.
>>>
>>> I looked at the Setup and the Initialization Wizard many times, but
>>> nothing clicked.
>>>
>>> After having looked at the Initialization Wizard for the tenth time,
>>> in the "Sound Initialization Wizard" area I place a check mark to
>>> "Mute Audio During Scheduled Record" and for kicks, another check
>>> mark to "Preserve TV On-Demand Video Between Sessions" in the "TV
>>> On-Demand Initialization Wizard".
>>>
>>> Neither of which I was originally to concerned about. For the first
>>> one, I didn't plan on doing any scheduled recordings, and I could
>>> care less if the .VCR file was saved. Actually, I would prefer not
>>> to eat up space on the hard drive unnecessarily.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I hit "Next" and then "Finish".
>>>
>>> As soon as I hit the "Finish" button, the echo disappeared and has
>>> not returned. It has not returned even if both option have their
>>> check marks removed. The MMC is now correctly sending the audio to
>>> the Audigy2 the way it is suppose to be sending it.
>>>
>>> If I go into TV On-Demand, and back the live feed back 30 seconds
>>> and then open the Live window, which ever window currently has
>>> focus, the sound is heard, not both at the same time, not endlessly
>>> feeding back on itself.
>>>
>>> I've called ATI and have given them the complete steps to test this
>>> and they seemed very interested in this fix.
>>>
>>> So, it appears to be some kind of problem with the Initialization
>>> Wizard not detecting the Audigy2 cards correctly, because it does
>>> work eventually.
>>>
>>> On a side note, I also mentioned the spelling error in the "Unable
>>> To Configure Audio" dialog box:
>>>
>>> "Please select the audio line to which you have connected vour video
>>> hardware from the list below."
>>>
>>> Vy video vis vennected voo vi Vine-Vin. Vhere vis vours?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
>>Great work Mark btw ATI is disgusting for spelling mistakes in almost
>>everything they write, be it drivers registry entries manuals help
>>files you name it. It is sad that in Canada, a world leader in the
>>field of communications, they can't use a spell checker and a human
>>(probably white)to go over their items before release.
>>
>>Gordon
>
>
> Why a white human, Gordon? They come in different colours, you know.
> And, strangely perhaps to you, it doesn't make any difference to their
> language skills.
>
> And I can't say that I've noticed that Ati are any worse than other
> companies for their spelling - apart from the fact that, to me, North
> American spellings never look right. I have noticed that your
> grammatic skills leave a lot to be desired, though...
>
> patrickp
>
> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

I do not wish to get into an international debate about spelling or
grammar. It's pointless and I won't win.

To clarify, I made the above comment about the spelling of the word
"your" because I was talking to ATI Tech Support at the time, but would
not have gone out of my way to report such trivial issues unless there
was a major impact with installing or use of the software. Which is why
I also mentioned to ATI that the wrong image has been used in their
un-install guide for several releases.

Plus, what I wrote was a dry-read. I thought I would try and put a
little humor in case someone managed to make it all the way to the end
without falling asleep.

In any case, my main point was to address the MMC audio echo problem,
which I found as I did research, was affecting many others - without
solution.

I should also point out that I went with my first and /only/ install of
the MMC (in fact all of the ATI) software. It was this first install
that, as I mentioned above, I somehow managed to get to work.

While it is not a direct fix, the experience I had getting the MMC
software to work might help someone else suffering with this problem.

And quite frankly, I did not wish to re-install all the ATI software
just so the problem would (perhaps) reappear and I could pin point
exactly what it was about the Initialization Wizard, that if you hammer
it enough times, it eventually configures everything right.

Perhaps someone could duplicate what I did, to solve their audio echo
problem and post back? If we work together, we might narrow it down.

--

Mark

 

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:35:15 -0000, Mark <Mark@nolocation!.com> wrote:

>You wrote in news:b4npc0d1mt0b659ni18od0v4mactbj9n2c@4ax.com thusly:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:35:25 GMT, Gordon Scott
>> <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Mark wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who might be suffering with audio echo when using
>>>> the MMC's TV and/or using TV On-Demand (version 9) with an Audigy2
>>>> SZ card (latest drivers), here is a possible solution. It fixed it
>>>> here. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> It started 36 hours ago when I reinstalled everything, but this time
>>>> I was going to use a Audigy2 sound card. As soon as I ran TV after
>>>> the new installations the echo was there. Sure it could be stopped
>>>> by going into Play Control and muting Line-In, but there wasn't
>>>> anything to mute when TV On-Demand was selected. Plus I didn't have
>>>> to do anything like that before.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at the Setup and the Initialization Wizard many times, but
>>>> nothing clicked.
>>>>
>>>> After having looked at the Initialization Wizard for the tenth time,
>>>> in the "Sound Initialization Wizard" area I place a check mark to
>>>> "Mute Audio During Scheduled Record" and for kicks, another check
>>>> mark to "Preserve TV On-Demand Video Between Sessions" in the "TV
>>>> On-Demand Initialization Wizard".
>>>>
>>>> Neither of which I was originally to concerned about. For the first
>>>> one, I didn't plan on doing any scheduled recordings, and I could
>>>> care less if the .VCR file was saved. Actually, I would prefer not
>>>> to eat up space on the hard drive unnecessarily.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I hit "Next" and then "Finish".
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I hit the "Finish" button, the echo disappeared and has
>>>> not returned. It has not returned even if both option have their
>>>> check marks removed. The MMC is now correctly sending the audio to
>>>> the Audigy2 the way it is suppose to be sending it.
>>>>
>>>> If I go into TV On-Demand, and back the live feed back 30 seconds
>>>> and then open the Live window, which ever window currently has
>>>> focus, the sound is heard, not both at the same time, not endlessly
>>>> feeding back on itself.
>>>>
>>>> I've called ATI and have given them the complete steps to test this
>>>> and they seemed very interested in this fix.
>>>>
>>>> So, it appears to be some kind of problem with the Initialization
>>>> Wizard not detecting the Audigy2 cards correctly, because it does
>>>> work eventually.
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, I also mentioned the spelling error in the "Unable
>>>> To Configure Audio" dialog box:
>>>>
>>>> "Please select the audio line to which you have connected vour video
>>>> hardware from the list below."
>>>>
>>>> Vy video vis vennected voo vi Vine-Vin. Vhere vis vours?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>
>>>Great work Mark btw ATI is disgusting for spelling mistakes in almost
>>>everything they write, be it drivers registry entries manuals help
>>>files you name it. It is sad that in Canada, a world leader in the
>>>field of communications, they can't use a spell checker and a human
>>>(probably white)to go over their items before release.
>>>
>>>Gordon
>>
>>
>> Why a white human, Gordon? They come in different colours, you know.
>> And, strangely perhaps to you, it doesn't make any difference to their
>> language skills.
>>
>> And I can't say that I've noticed that Ati are any worse than other
>> companies for their spelling - apart from the fact that, to me, North
>> American spellings never look right. I have noticed that your
>> grammatic skills leave a lot to be desired, though...
>>
>> patrickp
>>
>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>
>I do not wish to get into an international debate about spelling or
>grammar. It's pointless and I won't win.
>

Sorry, Mark, I thought it was clear my remarks were aimed at Gordon
Scott, not you. And I agree with you about the pointlessness of
criticisms of grammar and spelling in a forum such as Usenet. My
remarks were made because I thought Gordon's criticism of Ati's
spelling was not only unfounded, but quite invalidated by his poor
grammar.

I was also offended by his apparent racism - which I found not only
objectionable, but totally uncalled for on Usenet.

Apologies again.


>To clarify, I made the above comment about the spelling of the word
>"your" because I was talking to ATI Tech Support at the time, but would
>not have gone out of my way to report such trivial issues unless there
>was a major impact with installing or use of the software. Which is why
>I also mentioned to ATI that the wrong image has been used in their
>un-install guide for several releases.
>
>Plus, what I wrote was a dry-read. I thought I would try and put a
>little humor in case someone managed to make it all the way to the end
>without falling asleep.
>
>In any case, my main point was to address the MMC audio echo problem,
>which I found as I did research, was affecting many others - without
>solution.
>
>I should also point out that I went with my first and /only/ install of
>the MMC (in fact all of the ATI) software. It was this first install
>that, as I mentioned above, I somehow managed to get to work.
>
>While it is not a direct fix, the experience I had getting the MMC
>software to work might help someone else suffering with this problem.
>
>And quite frankly, I did not wish to re-install all the ATI software
>just so the problem would (perhaps) reappear and I could pin point
>exactly what it was about the Initialization Wizard, that if you hammer
>it enough times, it eventually configures everything right.
>
>Perhaps someone could duplicate what I did, to solve their audio echo
>problem and post back? If we work together, we might narrow it down.


patrickp

patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

 

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You wrote in news:bjvrc0tvg1kdmtlp5r0qigfn7adj05mpe4@4ax.com thusly:

>>I do not wish to get into an international debate about spelling or
>>grammar. It's pointless and I won't win.
>>
>
> Sorry, Mark, I thought it was clear my remarks were aimed at Gordon
> Scott, not you. And I agree with you about the pointlessness of
> criticisms of grammar and spelling in a forum such as Usenet. My
> remarks were made because I thought Gordon's criticism of Ati's
> spelling was not only unfounded, but quite invalidated by his poor
> grammar.
>
> I was also offended by his apparent racism - which I found not only
> objectionable, but totally uncalled for on Usenet.

I understood your intention and your focus. I was attempting to pull the
thread back on track and clarify any misunderstands with my original
post.

> Apologies again.

Not needed. All's good.

--

Mark