ATI Radeon 4800 Launch Details

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We previously published several details about AMD’s next-generation graphics card lineup and as we get closer to the launch we are getting more details about the launch date, feature set and prices. The good news: The new boards will come with “physics p

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"According To AMD’s current introduction schedule, the Radeon 4800 series will launch in week 25, which puts the day of the introduction somewhere between June 15 and June 22. What is significant about this time frame is that ATI will trail Nvidia and their new high-end chip GT200."

I am confused. I thought, at the earliest, the GT200 would be coming out in July. If the 4800 series launches in June, and the high end 9900 in July, how would teh 4800 trail the GT200?
 

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i been supporting graphzilla (Nvidia) for a while, after ATi's 98xx series, now i believe it is time for a change.

Change is what we need, since i bought 2x 7900GTX run in SLi back couple years, i kind of regret my decision. whooping out close to USD$1k, and it didn't really give me the vibe i wanted or intended to make. (at lease i can't play Crysis Max of everything)

plus it hurts every time when you start thinking of building a new system.

from now on, i will just keep it simply, 1 single 4870 priced @ USD$199~250, thats a WOW!! then i can buy a brand new design the following year or upgrade.

i will never pay any cards priced over USD$300, NOT A DIME MORE.

trust me people, i am not alone down on this road, and i warn you, NO NEED, theres no such a game need that bullsh!t setting but "Crysis", thats why no one plays it.
 

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Nooooooooo......... I am sick of waiting for a successor to my 8800GTS320. I've been waiting for over a year and no card has yet been able to justify an upgrade. Cant wait any longer!!!
 

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The GPU market is already a circus. Sure, Nvidia can't compete pricewise, but ONCE AGAIN, ATI is late to the party even after AMD had to shed some of it's top brass. As far as we're concerned, if Nvidia beats ATI in performance, we don't care what the card costs - Nvidia will win again. Sure you might be able to buy two ATI cards for the price, and maybe a bit more performance of the high end Nvidia card, but I guarantee you, for the 3rd generation in a row, ATI will look incredible on paper and will get slaughtered by real-world data.
the 2900's were failures - the 3800's were failures - and now the 4800's will be failures as well because nvidia jacked up it's stream processors. An 8800GTX annihilates almost all of it's direct competitions which include crossfire setups - double it's stream processors and you're looking at a Quad-crossfire killer.

AMD merging with ATI must've mixed up the dumbest of all possible people into positions of power, and all the bookies at AMD eventually go, "WERE BLEEDING CASH! THROW EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT ON THE MARKET!!!"

It's called TESTING AMD. DO SOME.

See, I bet you if AMD doubled it's stream processors, and tripled everything else (excluding clock speeds) it would cost more for them to make but they'd have Nvidia clamoring to hand out all the "Heads vs Asses" manuals. We all know AMD needs to find their own manuals right now...
 

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Korsen please stop taking Nvidia's side ffs. You say 3800s were failure?? What is your defination for failure then. The price range and consumer target of these cards applauded the 3800s and were very well recieved. Ofcourse almost 6 months later only 9600gt came from the green ones to compete vs the 3800s.I am not saying that the 4800s are gauranteed to be godly, but if they are 50% better than the 3800s, they justify being the next generation cards.........unlike nvidia.I dont care who makes the top card......because really its sub-300$ market that matters to me and most ppl apart from 5% ppl who want the best.
 

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I'm in a position that if ATI's high-end card can get close to or even higher than Nvidia's high-end then Ill go for it, the problem is that, that is unlikely. I am one of those "5%" that are willing to spend a lot on graphics, call me crazy but I only limit myself to $1000 for an upgrade from my 7600 GT, lol. The problem is that Nforce boards are junk and I would absolutely love to scrap mine for an X38, but ATI is going to cover their asses as best they can and go for the price/performance market, problem being that Nvidia has proven time and time again that they can produce the top of the line card, then a month later produce a card that out performs ATI's for less. It is not that Nvidia is superior, it is that Nvidia has larger funds at the moment. ATI is going to bury themselves unless they can hold the top of the line performance crown for awhile, even if it costs a lot. So produce the 4850, 4870, and 4870 X2 then come out with something else that will destroy the 9900 top of the line, regardless of price, and see how quickly it all changes to "ATI is on top again!"
 
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Graphic market share percentage

[Intel >>> Nvidia > ATI]

And Intel shows us the GREATEST graphic performance, right??? LOL
 
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The truth is that neither ATI nor NVIDIA tried really hard to make top performance cards: since the 2900XT we haven't seen power hungry beasts custom tailored for massive overclocking, and that card is still the king of 3dMark after volt mods and watercooling. The move to smaller manufactory technology made cards cooler,smaller and cheaper, but do not gave us consumers faster cards, and DirectX 10(.1), Vista and sub $400 24" LCDs increased the demands in the mean time.

What we "need": cheap single cards for casual gaming (up to 1920x1200- NO Crisys!!) and a new G92/RV670 chip mounted on a power hungry/watercooled board. i imagine what the 3870 could reach if the chip was mounted on the 2900XT power circuit!
The move to multi-GPU solutions is suboptimal: the cards dont scale well on all games and they cant reach high overclocks, thanks to the cheap capacitors and MOSFETs used. Until today the best solution is still get a 2900PRO, voltmod and watercool the hell out of it: 16000+ 3dMarks06 WITHOUT driver issues related to SLI/crossfire.
 

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When it comes to true DX10 (which is DX10.1), ATi has no competition. Assassins Creed showed everyone how powerful the 3800 line is when it comes to DX10.1. Nvidia dropped the ball with that one. Nvidia has failed to produce a true DX10.1 card. They are still fumbling around with their hybrid DX10 design. When it comes to color representation, ATi has it. When it comes to picture quality (although very, VERY close) ATi seems to just squeak out ahead. When it comes to FPS (frames per second), Nvidia comes out on top. Then you have your prices, where ATi wins.

If the 4870(x2) is significantly better than my BFG 8800 GTX OC2, then I will be getting one. I have been waiting a long time to dump my card, and am hoping that it will be this summer that I will be able to pick up a better card, for less monies.

DAMMIT, you better not be blowing smoke up are ars’ again!
 

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[citation][nom]randomizer[/nom]I expect these cards will be a total price gouge in Australia for, say, 8 months. Probably looking at $325-$375 for the 4870, the X2 being around $500-$550.[/citation]

But even the humble 8800GT costs $500 in Sydney! I'd hate to see it when it releases...
 

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I really want to see what a Graphic card with integrated physics can do! I really believe that Nvidia could not beat the "performance for the money" value of 4800 Cards, even if I'll not be surprised to see the powerfullest card on Nvidia side, but at ridiculously high price, like they love doing it. If a 4870 can really offer performance in the range of a 3870 X2, and at half of the price, they better stop producing them right now!
I'm already thinking of what could be done by a QuadXfire system of 4870X2 lol
 

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I was hoping to see ATI come out of the gates like a raging bull and get their card out before NV. That would have made a strong statement on their comeback. I think this will hurt sales. I have a system ready to go and have been waiting for R700...if NV has theirs out first, I will have time to consider a GT200 instead. I think ATI biffed on this one. They needed an aggressive launch.
 

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[citation][nom]ap90033[/nom]Crap just bought a 9800GTX, wonder how it will compare to the 4800 single card?[/citation]
9800GTX is just an overclocked 8800GTS 512mb
 

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If ATI can beat my 8800gts by half for around 240..I'd consider it. I think they are waiting cause they don't want Nvidia stomping them AND dropping their price to match ATI.
 

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Nothing new here. AMD ALWAYS!! says they will release something and then never make the date with quantity. By the time their produce reaches the masses it is no longer valid most of the time. Whats funny is all the Barcelona crap they were spewing. How it was faster than Intels current (and about to be replaced) 65mn products. But when it came to market it was flawed and in very short supply and Intel kicked the crap out of it.

AMD = all talk and no walk.
 

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[citation][nom]rozar[/nom]Nothing new here. AMD ALWAYS!! says they will release something and then never make the date with quantity. By the time their produce reaches the masses it is no longer valid most of the time. Whats funny is all the Barcelona crap they were spewing. How it was faster than Intels current (and about to be replaced) 65mn products. But when it came to market it was flawed and in very short supply and Intel kicked the crap out of it. AMD = all talk and no walk. [/citation]
lol... Agreed
Well lately anyway.
 

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Rozar, you brought nothing to the table here. We all know that AMD has made mistakes, and recently they are not very creditable; but give them the benefit of the doubt. Without AMD, prices for processors go up, prices for video cards goes up, innovation slows to a crawl, if moves at all.

Another thing, AMD didn’t say they are pushing it way back. They are moving to a better launch date (I think I should get a jorb in their PR department :p). Maybe they know something we don't (let’s hope to (deity of you choice) they do!). Maybe what they are releasing is something new instead of old technology rehashed with another name on it (COME ON NVIDIA!!! YOU CAN ONLY NAME SOMETHING SO MANY TIMES!!!).

I am holding out hope for the underdog that they can fight back a little.
 

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Not surprised with ATI/AMD release dates. An article on this site describing their company structure and how complacent and lethargic they have become after their success over P4 was posted on this site. The info came from a inside source and appeared credible. The more I read about AMD the more I realize they have creative people that are simply held back by corporate policy.
When Intel enters the fray AMD and nVidia will get their
collective asses kicked if they don't wow us with price, power and performance. Intel already has a huge advantage with it's name and if it can **successfully** package graphics and CPU together why would an OEM
go to ATI or Nvidia.
 
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