Ati Radron 9800 pro 256 mb

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9800 Pro 128mb would probably be better depending on what you are doing. What are you planning on doing with your card? Just games? If you using it for games get the 128mb version.

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9800 Pro 128mb would probably be better depending on what you are doing. What are you planning on doing with your card? Just games? If you using it for games get the 128mb version.

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9800 Pro 128mb would probably be better depending on what you are doing. What are you planning on doing with your card? Just games? If you using it for games get the 128mb version.

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I should post four time for every legit responce... I will be a master in no time... the what the hell 4th post was priceless...

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I am not sure if the point came across... you will never use the extra 128MB of video ram, so it is not worth the extra money... so, get the 128MB version of the 9800 Pro... make sure it is actually 256 bit, however...

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Umm... No, the extra ram on the 9800 series card doesn't help in anything. Not even with full aa/af at 1600x1200.

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Exactly. Cards from this generation don't benefit much from the increased memory. Go with the 128 version and stash the extra money for your X800 fund.
 
The only thing I'd add to the above other than a LOL @ blackphoenix :lol: , is that the R9800PRO-256 uses DDRII and has a tendency to be a poor overclocker and heat up. If overclocking is involved at all then a good quality R9800Pro -128 may offer better performance in the long run, since the amount of times you'd have to worry about the texture size stressing the 128mb is rather slim, even in near future games, and you'd likley see better performance on more games out of the extra mhz from the memory throughput than the overall size.

And ScottC, the R500 does look nice, but I don't want to wait a WHOLE year, an R480 or NV45(or whatever's after that) may be good enough. Although yeah 0.11 would be nice, I'm not sure if they're still going to go there for the R480 (suppoed to be introduced for the RV370, but it was supposed to be out around the same time as the R420/X800) so I don't know anymore.


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So among all the 128MB 9800Pros, which is known to be of the highest quality, and which is known to overclock better?

Which i mean: Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Powercolor, Built by ATI?

Mine is built by ATI and i just got it 2 days ago...its factory underclocked it seems...powerstrip reports core:378 and memory 337.5.
Wish i could know what's the limit of my memory...it has :

Samsung 404 K4D263238E-GC2A

written on them.
 

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found it on samsung semiconductors...350MHZ.....

Is that the MAX LIMIT??



K4D263238E-GC25 400MHz 800Mbps/pin

K4D263238E-GC2A 350MHz 700Mbps/pin

K4D263238E-GC33 300MHz 600Mbps/pin

K4D263238E-GC36 275MHz 550Mbps/pin

K4D263238E-GC40 250MHz 500Mbps/pin

K4D263238E-GC45 222MHz 444Mbps/pin
 

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Cards from this generation don't benefit much from the increased memory.
INTERESTING (in the context of this thread) how ATI reps in some posters' links boast about using common sense and not encouraging the features that give no benefit to the customer when they try to justify lack of PS 3.0 support and such! Hahaha!

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Of those you will find that the BBA likely overclocks the best without much issue. The ASUS is also a great build and usually overclocks well when done methodically, but it does have the occasional hiccup, especially with it's smart doctor software which inhibits wild overclocks. Gigabyte's not bad with OK overclocking potential, and MSI I haven't seen enough of to comment. Powercolor is notoriously bad.

The memory you have is the same 2.86 Smasung stuff on my board. Overclocks can vary wildly, but getting 360+ should be a breeze, but don't assume anything. Ratchet it up slowly, you'll be able to find your upper limit rather easily. Remember to raise either the core and memory alone to find each's upper limit, from there you should be able to know which balanced pairing works best.

Oh yeah, and it's not underclocked that's normal the published figures are simply rounded when reported by most people. Just like my R9600P is 398.25/297 instead of the widely reported 400/300. It's close enough. Factory underclocked now that's what Powercolor is notorious for, and you'd REALLY see a difference then, not just a few but many mhz difference.


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well....guess i'll give this O/C business a trial...but only when i update the rest of my rig and get a decent PSU...
 

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True... I think the feature support of the new cards is a tricky issue, because if I was throwing down $500 (even though I wouldn't spend half that in reality) I would demand support for those features, even if they didn't come into play for a while. On the other hand, if I spent $300, I wouldn't be quite as concerned...

I don't know what ATi's plans are for the latter half of the year, if anyone else does then please send me some links about the R500 or whatever it's called. I imagine that ATi will play it cool and wait to release their real 'next-gen' architecture; nVidia is trying to 'wow' the industry and consumers with the new hardware, but the X800s are head-to-head or even faster in a lot of benchmarks than the 6800U. Then again, the drivers will improve dramatically in the next few months, which is why I won't upgrade yet- I'll wait to see the baby 6800, and find out whether ATi or nVidia is more powerful.
 

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The HIS Ice-Q also looks like an uber-overclocker. It comes stock with a 2-slot cooling solution (but not a leaf blower like the NVidia 5900's). Tom's reviewed it and gave it very positive remarks.

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Oh definitely, simply out of the ones he listed that's my recommendation. But HIS definitely have it right by putting the VGA silencer on their products, we've talked about them before, and if you like their R9800 solutions, wait until you see the X800 series, newly designed IceQ which is supposedly more quiet and evacuates the air out of the case through the channels.


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