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Hmmm... pricing is very close to the PHB, so it really _is_ for dummies
🙂
 
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Mere moments before death, Rexx Magnus hastily scrawled:
>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:42:55 GMT, Argentium Helm scrawled:
>
>> I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>>
>> http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>>
>>
>
>I spotted that yesterday on the WotC site. There seem to be Dummies books
>for almost any activity now.

I'll be impressed when they publish "How to Write a Dummies Book About
Anything for Dummies".



Ed Chauvin IV

--
DISCLAIMER : WARNING: RULE # 196 is X-rated in that to calculate L,
use X = [(C2/10)^2], and RULE # 193 which is NOT meant to be read by
kids, since RULE # 187 EXPLAINS homosexuality mathematically, using
modifier G @ 11.

"I always feel left out when someone *else* gets killfiled."
--Terry Austin
 
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"and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."

Hmmmmmm. Just when did this hierarchy come about? Is there an initiation
fee? A test?

Rich


"Argentium Helm" <argentiumhelm@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>
> http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>
>
> --
>
>
> Argentium Helm
>
 
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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
> Mere moments before death, Rexx Magnus hastily scrawled:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:42:55 GMT, Argentium Helm scrawled:
>>
>>
>>>I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>>>
>>>http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I spotted that yesterday on the WotC site. There seem to be Dummies books
>>for almost any activity now.
>
>
> I'll be impressed when they publish "How to Write a Dummies Book About
> Anything for Dummies".

"Terrorism for Dummies"

"Running the Country for Dummies"

"Welfare Fraud for Dummies"

- Ron ^*^
 
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"Eyebyte" <rbrouwer@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:3a0i72F624iojU1@individual.net...
> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
>
> Hmmmmmm. Just when did this hierarchy come about? Is there an initiation
> fee? A test?
>
> Rich

Yes you didn't get the memo from DnD headquarters. I'll explain in brief
below.

All players must intern as players for anywhere from 5 months to a year
before being authorized to attend DM college.

DM college is a multi-year learning and enrichment experience. The
experience costs a mere 9,000 dollars a year and students leave with a
understanding of being a DM and what responsiblities that the title grants.
Nearly all of our graduating DMs soon move on to find groups. They have a
surprising level of campaign invovlement.

Other fees: There is a once time fee for starting DMs of 1,000 dollars, or
three virgins depending on what is available at the time.

Please let it be known that DM college is a serious academic environment.
The college has been a training ground for such important DMs as Bob, down
the street, Mary the closested pez collector, and Ralph "Roll that d20 again
please" Thomas.

You can also visit our website or call our toll free number to see if you
have what it takes to be a DM.
 
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How in the hell do you get 432 pages of Dummies advice
for beginning D&D players? I wonder if they just reprinted
the rulebooks...

A newbies guide for D&D isn't a bad idea at all, really.
Ideally, though, it would look like GURPS Lite - a much
shorter and simpler version of the rules - and not a
432 page behemoth.

Anyone look at the boxed set beginner's rules that I've
seen here and there? If it has good rules and advice
for people completely new to RPGs I might have to pick
it up.

Pete
 
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"Argentium Helm" <argentiumhelm@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news😛Lu_d.45079$ZO2.12471@edtnps84...
>I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>
> http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>


I just saw this on the site:

"and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."

What hierarchy? All you need to DM is a rough knowledge of the rules and a
good idea.

Andy
 
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Andy wrote:
> "Argentium Helm" <argentiumhelm@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news😛Lu_d.45079$ZO2.12471@edtnps84...
> >I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
> >
> >
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
> >
>
>
> I just saw this on the site:
>
> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
>
> What hierarchy? All you need to DM is a rough knowledge of the rules
and a
> good idea.
>

Hell you don't even need the good idea, there's plenty of pre-printed
adventures around. Some of them are even good.

You might actually better off starting with no knowledge of the rules
as well. It took me longer to adjust to 3.0 than most new players who
hadn't played previous editions.

- justisaur.
 
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In news:3a0i72F624iojU1@individual.net,
Eyebyte <rbrouwer@rogers.com> typed:
> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
> Hmmmmmm. Just when did this hierarchy come about? Is there an
> initiation fee? A test?

Probably written by someone who knows next to nothing about either the book
or it's subject, like with most books backcovers.

--
T. Koivula
 
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"Decaying Atheist" <harker@coxdot.net> writes:

>Other fees: There is a once time fee for starting DMs of 1,000 dollars, or
>three virgins depending on what is available at the time.

Yeah, like the D&D people need more virgins.




--
Chimes peal joy. Bah. Joseph Michael Bay
Icy colon barge Cancer Biology
Frosty divine Saturn Stanford University
www.stanford.edu/~jmbay/ got my mojo properly adjusted
 
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Eyebyte wrote:

> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
>
> Hmmmmmm. Just when did this hierarchy come about?

When was D+D first published?
 
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Andy wrote:

> "Argentium Helm" <argentiumhelm@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news😛Lu_d.45079$ZO2.12471@edtnps84...
>
>>I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>>
>>http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>
> I just saw this on the site:
>
> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
>
> What hierarchy? All you need to DM is a rough knowledge of the rules and a
> good idea.

The latter is the rarity.
 
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Andy wrote:
> "Argentium Helm" <argentiumhelm@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>
> I just saw this on the site:
>
> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
>
> What hierarchy? All you need to DM is a rough knowledge of the
> rules and a good idea.

Move up in the hierarchy *from player*.


Arivne
 
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Mere moments before death, Peter Meilinger hastily scrawled:
>
>How in the hell do you get 432 pages of Dummies advice
>for beginning D&D players? I wonder if they just reprinted
>the rulebooks...
>
>A newbies guide for D&D isn't a bad idea at all, really.
>Ideally, though, it would look like GURPS Lite - a much
>shorter and simpler version of the rules - and not a
>432 page behemoth.

Have you ever read a ...for Dummies book? 432 pages of fairly large
print, many diagrams and such surrounded by good sized margins. And
this is not just a reprint of the rules, it's a guide to playing the
game. Without even reading it, I'm sure it goes into some of the more
esoteric aspects, such as who brings the chips.



Ed Chauvin IV

--
DISCLAIMER : WARNING: RULE # 196 is X-rated in that to calculate L,
use X = [(C2/10)^2], and RULE # 193 which is NOT meant to be read by
kids, since RULE # 187 EXPLAINS homosexuality mathematically, using
modifier G @ 11.

"I always feel left out when someone *else* gets killfiled."
--Terry Austin
 
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Peter Meilinger wrote:
> How in the hell do you get 432 pages of Dummies advice
> for beginning D&D players? I wonder if they just reprinted
> the rulebooks...
>
> A newbies guide for D&D isn't a bad idea at all, really.
> Ideally, though, it would look like GURPS Lite - a much
> shorter and simpler version of the rules - and not a
> 432 page behemoth.
[...]

You're assuming it's a "Dummy guide" to the *rules* of D&D.

--
Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org
 
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Justisaur wrote:
[...]
> You might actually better off starting with no knowledge of the rules
> as well. It took me longer to adjust to 3.0 than most new players who
> hadn't played previous editions.

That is only true for people who have only ever played
various flavours of D&D. Someone whose past experience
includes AD&D, RuneQuest, GURPS, WEG's Star Wars and maybe a
couple other systems, will have no difficulty wrapping his
head around 3.0.

--
Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org
 
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Ophidian wrote:
> Eyebyte wrote:
>
> > "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
> >
> > Hmmmmmm. Just when did this hierarchy come about?
>
> When was D+D first published?

Copywrite 1973 IIRC, maybe I'll dig out the original rules and
check someday.

DougL
 
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Mere moments before death, Peter Knutsen hastily scrawled:
>
>Justisaur wrote:
>[...]
>> You might actually better off starting with no knowledge of the rules
>> as well. It took me longer to adjust to 3.0 than most new players who
>> hadn't played previous editions.
>
>That is only true for people who have only ever played
>various flavours of D&D. Someone whose past experience
>includes AD&D, RuneQuest, GURPS, WEG's Star Wars and maybe a
>couple other systems, will have no difficulty wrapping his
>head around 3.0.

Nobody who can read and think effectively should have any trouble
wrapping their head around 3.x.



Ed Chauvin IV

--
DISCLAIMER : WARNING: RULE # 196 is X-rated in that to calculate L,
use X = [(C2/10)^2], and RULE # 193 which is NOT meant to be read by
kids, since RULE # 187 EXPLAINS homosexuality mathematically, using
modifier G @ 11.

"I always feel left out when someone *else* gets killfiled."
--Terry Austin
 
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"Eyebyte" <rbrouwer@rogers.com> wrote...

> "and even move up in the hierarchy to become a Dungeon Master."
>
> Hmmmmmm. Just when did this hierarchy come about? Is there an initiation
> fee? A test?
>
> Rich

You mean you don't know? There's a minimum height requirement of course.

--


Argentium Helm
 
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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
>
> Nobody who can read and think effectively should have any trouble
> wrapping their head around 3.x.

Doubtful considering even its writers don't always get it.
 
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:29:03 -0500, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net>
gibbered into the void:

>
>
>Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
>> Mere moments before death, Rexx Magnus hastily scrawled:
>>
>>>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:42:55 GMT, Argentium Helm scrawled:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I must say that I can't believe it, to have seen it:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764584596.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I spotted that yesterday on the WotC site. There seem to be Dummies books
>>>for almost any activity now.
>>
>>
>> I'll be impressed when they publish "How to Write a Dummies Book About
>> Anything for Dummies".
>
>"Terrorism for Dummies"
>
>"Running the Country for Dummies"
>
>"Welfare Fraud for Dummies"
>
> - Ron ^*^

They're way ahead of you...

http://nowscape.com/Bush_dummies.htm
 
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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
> Mere moments before death, Peter Knutsen hastily scrawled:
>>That is only true for people who have only ever played
>>various flavours of D&D. Someone whose past experience
>>includes AD&D, RuneQuest, GURPS, WEG's Star Wars and maybe a
>>couple other systems, will have no difficulty wrapping his
>>head around 3.0.
>
> Nobody who can read and think effectively should have any trouble
> wrapping their head around 3.x.

Somebody who has played only AD&D (and old D&D), and who
thus has no experience whatsoever with systems which do
things even slightly differently, *will* find the transition
difficult.

--
Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org
 
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Mere moments before death, Peter Knutsen hastily scrawled:
>Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
>> Mere moments before death, Peter Knutsen hastily scrawled:
>>>
>>>That is only true for people who have only ever played
>>>various flavours of D&D. Someone whose past experience
>>>includes AD&D, RuneQuest, GURPS, WEG's Star Wars and maybe a
>>>couple other systems, will have no difficulty wrapping his
>>>head around 3.0.
>>
>> Nobody who can read and think effectively should have any trouble
>> wrapping their head around 3.x.
>
>Somebody who has played only AD&D (and old D&D), and who
>thus has no experience whatsoever with systems which do
>things even slightly differently, *will* find the transition
>difficult.

I can't see any reason that should be true.



Ed Chauvin IV

--
DISCLAIMER : WARNING: RULE # 196 is X-rated in that to calculate L,
use X = [(C2/10)^2], and RULE # 193 which is NOT meant to be read by
kids, since RULE # 187 EXPLAINS homosexuality mathematically, using
modifier G @ 11.

"I always feel left out when someone *else* gets killfiled."
--Terry Austin
 
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