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Did you learn how to use flags ? If you're already on the forum, then I think this is better than the email notification :)
 
Could be implemented as a futur option in you profile, which would remind your choice of activating a watch by default through a cookie, yup .
 
The flags still requier me to manually navigate to each section to see if there is a thread that has new posts. If I post to something I want to automatically get an e-mail when someone replies (just like I did in the OLD but much better forums).
 

oh and BTW this forum started to be developped 7 years ago, in august 2000, so I have already collected in 7 years some feedbacks about how the forum is compared to the competition.
You just have to make a small effort to learn the basic feature of this one before saying the old one is better.

Of course I'm always open to improvement suggestion, as the forum is always evoluating and improving thanks to user feedbacks.
 
Most issues are from the integration inside the current design (although this should be addressed quickly by THG).

This software is installed on a lot of big website without any bugs or issues. The board has also been choosen because it's really highly optimised and one of the fastest board available on the market, although it has plenty of options available.
 



Is it because the development was started in 2000 when we had less than 1/64th the computing power available per machine than we have now that you have an issue with nested quotes? They really shouldn't be an issue with modern machines. People who don't want to read them will recognize when its happening and skip them. Those who have been away from the thread for a while (or cannot spend their lives on them) will get filled in as they go.

Also people, on average) are a lot better about dealing with e-mails now they were in 2000 perhaps now is a good time to put in an option in the preferences pages that allows them to automatically get e-mails about their threads instead of having to come to the site daily to check on them.
 

there is no issue with nested quotes, the current behaviour is per design because having nested of nested of nested quotes are just horrible. (and it requires more power to like this is implemented today 😛)
 


In fairness, that's your opinion. Clearly, many actual users of this and other forums disagree, or they wouldn't use them. I personally find them very useful in establishing the context of a specific comment. If you're going to ban nested quotes, you should at least provide an alternate mechanism to provide context without making the user have to click buttons, scroll up/down, etc. My apologies in advance if there is such a mechanism, and I've missed it. If so, I'd appreciate a pointer to it.

Certainly, a number of the things people are complaining about are just different, not worse. There are things which are clear improvements, such as the flagging system you described. However, some changes IMHO *are* worse, not just different. Hopefully, most of those just represent the "alpha" nature of this forum, and will be fixed/implemented in the future.

For those who will be decision-makers in the future, this unfortunately will be an object example in how not to do a forum software switch. Shutting down a working forum with no advance warning and replacing it with a completely different design with many missing features and bugs isn't the best way to get prior users to appreciate the new setup! The proper way to do it is to set up the new board in parallel with the old one and encourage users to try it out (beta test it) over a few weeks to months while keeping the old board open for the majority of use. That way, the obvious bugs get whacked and the key features get implemented before a horde of "new" users has to depend on the system. As an added bonus, the "early adopters" have become familiar enough with the new system that they can be the ones providing help and answering questions on forum use. This model has been followed successfully in the past, and would have helped immensely in this situation.
Of course, that's just my judgment. With luck, you won't see a dropoff in postings and posters dating to July 9th, and life will be happy!

 

This was done.... Not by the members, but by the mod & admin. staff..... Many things were worked out before the release...... I've seen myself & the other mods & admins passing on what we learned in threads all over the forum....

BTW the last forum software update was handled the same way... The forum didn't go off line for that switch though.. The switch was turned & there you were in the new forum the next time you logged in..
 

Hi,

The top button "
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" do it, in each thread it is clicked. :hello:
 



I shouldn't have to in threads I start and/or post. That is the whole point of this thread. It is an annoying extra step that sometimes gets forgotten and means that I will (unfourtunately) miss out on some things I would really like to see.

The nested quotes is just something that came up afterwards, another point that others seam to agree with me on. They were really helpfull (at times a little overused, but that was easy to recognize and then glance over insteaed of reading).
 

As the problems with the current board show, having such an "internal" test period isn't enough. As I wrote, other boards that I'm active on have made the transition much more smoothly by opening up the "beta test" to members in general. Mods & staff are unlikely to have the same use profiles as the user community in general.

I and others certainly appreciate this - thank you! However, I'm sure you and the others would not mind if there were dozens/hundreds more people who would also help out. :)

PS - Thanks Joce, that's the code I was looking for. BTW, the in-place "quick edit" is nice!

 


Some people doesn't want to be buried under e-mails, that's why it's the user who have the choice getting notifications or not ! 😉
 


I have no problem with people getting the choice. I don't even mind if the observed behavior is the default. I just think that there should be a check box in prefferences that I can click on so that when I post I get notified (just like the old system had). I simply don't like having to remember to do it every time, even if I get it 99 out of 100 times I am still potentially missing out on information.
 
Re mondoman


This is not production engineering software that could cost millions to implement, such as I used to do at GM..... This is just basic forum software....... I think we have more than enough talent to beta a forum software on the staff rather that open it up to the members......

As with all changes in software, it meets resistance no matter how many months / years were put into beta..... Vista comes to mind..... Users are comfortable with what they had & will complain about any change made.....

Funny thing though.... After a month of deployment & users actually pick through the new software & figure out how to use it, the complaints are gone..... That happened with the last software & it will happen again this time as well.....
 
RCPilot, normally I like you and value your input tremendously, but when it comes to this forum "upgrade" you seam to have decided to go really heavy on the second half of your signature.
 




Aragorn, you're upset and I can fully relate to that, but don't let that cloud your judgement of other posters here. What RC wrote there is true. This is not the first switch of software. That does not mean your complaints aren't justified, I think they are. Let's focus on getting it better though and not attacking each other.
 
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