"B" motherboard for a budget gaming pc

[atanaskovicveljko80]

I was looking for a cheap B board and I came across Biostar AM4 TB350-BTC is it good for a budget gaming pc in a combination with asus strix rx 570 4gb and ryzen 2200g?

 

[WildCard999]

Get a B450 board, with the B350 boards you don't know if the BIOS is up to date to support the 2200G.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $73.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-02 14:32 EST-0500

 

[feelinfroggy777]

You will need to update the bios on that board to run the 2200g. In order to update the bios you will need a 1st gen Ryzen CPU. I would look for a b450 board. It will work out of the box with the 2200g and has much better RAM compatibility.

Here is a basic b450 board that will run the 2200g and 570 just fine.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTdyV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTdyV6/by_merchant/

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $73.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-02 14:35 EST-0500

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

You will need to update the bios on that board to run the 2200g. In order to update the bios you will need a 1st gen Ryzen CPU. I would look for a b450 board. It will work out of the box with the 2200g and has much better RAM compatibility.

Here is a basic b450 board that will run the 2200g and 570 just fine.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTdyV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTdyV6/by_merchant/

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $73.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-02 14:35 EST-0500

What about this one Gigabyte AM4 B450M S2H?

 

[feelinfroggy777]

It only has 2 DIMMs for RAM, but it is fine. It just depends on what you are wanting to do. If you get 2x4gb sticks of RAM and want to upgrade to 16gb one day, then you will need to buy a 16gb kit as you wont be able to add 2 more sticks.

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

It only has 2 DIMMs for RAM, but it is fine. It just depends on what you are wanting to do. If you get 2x4gb sticks of RAM and want to upgrade to 16gb one day, then you will need to buy a 16gb kit as you wont be able to add 2 more sticks.

So it is compatible?
I wanted to use 1x8gb.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Yes, it is compatible, but running one stick of RAM on a Ryzen CPU is not really advisable. You need to run 2 sticks of RAM to run in dual channel which will make a big difference on your 2200g.

I know a 2x4gb kit is more than 1 (8gb) stick, but you will lose performance.

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

Yes, it is compatible, but running one stick of RAM on a Ryzen CPU is not really advisable. You need to run 2 sticks of RAM to run in dual channel which will make a big difference on your 2200g.

I know a 2x4gb kit is more than 1 (8gb) stick, but you will lose performance.

How big is the performance loss? (does it matter if I'm using a gpu, I won't use integrated graphics)
And do you know are all gpus overclockable.
Looks like asus strix rx 570 is sold out, my chocice now is asus expedition rx 570 4gb OC (90YV0AI0-M0NA00) is it good?
(thank you for the help)

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Here is an article about the performace loss of the 2400g running in dual channel vs single channel and the performance loss is significant. But running a discrete GPU wont make it quite as bad as a GPU will have its own VRAM and will not be dependent on the system RAM.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3244-amd-r5-2400g-memory-kit-benchmarks-and-single-vs-dual-channel

As for overclocking a GPU, they can all be overclocked. I would go with the best GPU that you can afford, but get the cheapest of a series. So if you cant afford a 580, then get the cheapest 570 as the chips inside of all the 570's are the same. The only difference is factory overclocks and cooling. You can get the factory overclock just fine at home with yourself. So there is no need to pay more for something that you can do.

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

Here is an article about the performace loss of the 2400g running in dual channel vs single channel and the performance loss is significant. But running a discrete GPU wont make it quite as bad as a GPU will have its own VRAM and will not be dependent on the system RAM.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3244-amd-r5-2400g-memory-kit-benchmarks-and-single-vs-dual-channel

As for overclocking a GPU, they can all be overclocked. I would go with the best GPU that you can afford, but get the cheapest of a series. So if you cant afford a 580, then get the cheapest 570 as the chips inside of all the 570's are the same. The only difference is factory overclocks and cooling. You can get the factory overclock just fine at home with yourself. So there is no need to pay more for something that you can do.

Thank you a lot.
So is this a good combination?
CPU: Ryzen 3 2200g
Motherboard: Gigabyte AM4 B450M S2H
Ram: DIMM DDR4 8GB 2133MHz Geil CL15
GPU: ASUS Radeon RX 570 Expedition 4GB OC (90YV0AI0-M0NA00)
Storage: HDD 3.5" SATA3 7200 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX
and 500w psu

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Faster RAM. Ryzen needs faster RAM. I would not go with anything less than 2666mhz.

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

Faster RAM. Ryzen needs faster RAM. I would not go with anything less than 2666mhz.

What about this DIMM DDR4 8GB 2666MHz Transcend CL19?
What does CL 19 mean?

 

[feelinfroggy777]

CL 19 is the latency. 19 is pretty high for 2666mhz. The faster the RAM, the higher the latency. That number should be below 14. But it wont make that big of a difference. I would rather have 2666mhz with higher latency than 2133 and lower latency.

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

CL 19 is the latency. 19 is pretty high for 2666mhz. The faster the RAM, the higher the latency. That number should be below 14. But it wont make that big of a difference. I would rather have 2666mhz with higher latency than 2133 and lower latency.

Ok, so is this a good build with this ram now? What do you think should I save more money for an asus dual rx 580 4gb? Some people say that asus cards are pretty loud is that true?

 

[feelinfroggy777]

I have an Asus dual 580 in a rig and it works just fine. Most open air GPU coolers, like the one on the dual, are all the same. Maybe a db or two difference when under the same fan curve. But not much in the end.

 

[atanaskovicveljko80]

I have an Asus dual 580 in a rig and it works just fine. Most open air GPU coolers, like the one on the dual, are all the same. Maybe a db or two difference when under the same fan curve. But not much in the end.

Thank you for everything, you helped a lot!!!!