b450m ds3h gpu

[tesla.force]

Hi, after weeks from thinking and stuff. I decided to go for AMD's Ryzen, and forget about that i5 4th gen.

Right now I own those components:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
GPU: GTX 1060 3GB Superclocked
MOBO: Gigabyte B450M DS3H
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 1x8 3000 mhz cl16
PSU: Seasonic S12ii 520W
CASE: TT Versa H18
HDD: WD Blue

My question is... will my PSU & MOBO support a future update? I'm thinking to sell this card + my old desktop and buy an used 1070 or 1080 or even a 2070 if there are sellers in my area. But I'm not sure if it will ''break'' my setup. There is a guy who sells an 1080 MSI Armor OC at the price of 350 usd 😀

 

[Aeacus]

Hmm... a bit tough call. Wattage wise, S12II-520 can handle GTX 1070 (150W), GTX 1080 (180W) and RTX 2070 (185W), but using those three GPUs gets a bit too close for comfort, pushing PSU relatively hard.

Consider about 200W for your whole setup, except GPU wattage. Add GPU wattage to it, e.g 180W (GTX 1080) and total would be 380W. If you OC your CPU/GPU, another 100W can be easily added to it, making total 480W. Since PSU is 520W, only 40W is spared.

My golden rule of picking and suggesting PSU is that on maxed out load + CPU/GPU OC, PSU must have at least 100W to spare. This is to avoid pushing PSU to operate close to it's max output wattage, minimizing PSU failure. While Seasonic S12II-520 is the best group-regulated PSU ever made and it's good quality unit, the S12II platform itself is over 8 years old. I suggest that you also upgrade your PSU to more modern design with extra wattage output to match the more power hungry GPU you're planning to go.

My AMD build was also powered by Seasonic S12II-520 before i upgraded my PSU to Seasonic Focus+ 550 (80+ Platinum), mainly for 3 reasons:
* to get latest tech in PSU world (like said above, S12II platform is 8 years old)
* to get better efficiency (80+ Platinum vs 80+ Bronze)
* to get fully-modular cables (so that i can use CableMod custom sleeved power cables in my build)

That being said and to be on the safe side, i suggest going for 600W range Seasonic PSU, e.g: Focus 650 (80+ Gold), Focus+ 650 (80+ Gold), PRIME SnowSilent 650 (80+ Platinum) or PRIME Ultra 650 (80+ Titanium),
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/WrNypg,qn7v6h,yJgzK8,fnjJ7P/

Warranty wise:
Focus: 7 years
Focus+: 10 years
PRIME: 12 years (includes all PRIME models: regular, Fanless, AirTouch, SnowSilent, Ultra)

Wattage wise:
200W (system) + 180W (GTX 1080) + 100W (OC) = 480W vs 650W PSU = 170W to spare.

Btw, all 3x of my PCs: Skylake, Haswell and AMD are powered by Seasonic, full specs with pics in my sig.

Oh, MoBo wise, there are 0 issues getting new GPU. Just make sure that your PC case has enough GPU clearance to fit new GPU in it.

 

[tesla.force]

Wow, thank you for the detailed response... the only sad part is I already have that PSU, I got it because it was on sale compared to the other version which is 620W, yeah I got a bit greedy.

I'm not planning to OC the CPU... only the RAM at 2933/3000 mhz, but I'm not that sure. I really like to keep things at stock, and not to change anything.

What's the best option for me right now? Oh btw, I have a 720p monitor. in a month I will upgrade to a full hd one, I'm not interested in 2k/4k monitors.

 

[Aeacus]

Best option? Stick to what you currently have, including GPU. GTX 1060 3GB GPU does fine at 1080p with high/ultra settings while giving solid 60+ FPS. I know this first hand since i too have GTX 1060 3GB GPU (MSI Gaming X 3G series) and 1080p monitor (my Skylake build).

Though, if you want to still upgrade your GPU, do it after you've bought 1080p monitor, so you can see for yourself if GPU upgrade would be necessary at all. By then, you might have enough money saved so that you can afford to buy 650W PSU as well.

Btw, just because someone sells GTX 1080 with a price that is too good to be true, doesn't mean that you have to buy it when you actually doesn't have a need for it. I suspect that this GTX 1080 might have been in a mining rig which wears GPUs down up to the point of near failure. Also, you won't get any warranty when you buy used GPU, so when the GTX 1080 GPU dies on you, you're left high and dry.

Oh, PC upgrade wise, what i'd do would be buying 2nd 8GB 3000 Mhz stick with same make, model and part number since:
* latest games can easily use up to 12GB of RAM
* and you'll get much faster dual-channel RAM with 2x sticks rather than using single-channel RAM with 1x stick;
comparison as well: https://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/HyperX-Fury-DDR4-2133-C14-1x8GB-vs-HyperX-Fury-DDR4-2133-C14-2x8GB/3555vs3552
Note that both RAM sets are 8GB total with speed of 2133 Mhz, while only diff is the sticks count, which makes a huge difference.

Also, look towards SSD as being OS drive since compared to the HDD, SSD have considerably faster read/write speeds. Using SSD as OS drive will give you far shorter boot-up, game loading and shut down times,
comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j84eEjP-RL4

For good SSD, you can go either with Crucial MX500 or Samsung 860 Evo, 500GB in size, for plenty of space for OS and played games,
comparison: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-MX500-500GB-vs-Samsung-860-Evo-500GB/m418385vsm428560
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/ft8j4D,6yKcCJ/

In my Haswell build, i have Samsung 850 Evo 500GB as OS drive and in my Skylake build, i have Crucial MX500 1TB as storage drive, while OS drive is Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD. My AMD build also has SSD as OS drive but it has old Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB SSD.

 

[tesla.force]

You are right, I heard cases with the mining thing, but that guy sells all his pc parts. And that offer is too good.

I know my card is enough for 720p/1080p gaming, but I really want something more powerfull.

By the way, can you help me decide which monitor to buy? My budget is like 150-200 usd. I play all kind of games, hearts of iron, skyrim, cs go, gta 5, minecraft. I am not really interested in 1 ms thing, with 144hz. But the panel type, I really like good colors.

This is a Romanian site, where I bought those components. https://www.pcgarage.ro/monitoare-led/ 150-200 USD means like 600-800 RON in my currency. As for a new GPU, I think I'll go for a 1070 in the future, maybe the price will drop. If my card was 6gb version, I wouldn't change it. But it will struggle in most games.

 

[Vic 40]

You will be fine with that psu for a gtx 1070/1080 or 2070,there's no way that system uses 200watt with just the cpu and other parts. Not saying not to upgrade that monitor first cause that would be wise,but that psu should work fine.
And if you by that time you have enough money to upgrade the psu as well fine,it's an old type so there are better ones by now,but not just for the power consumption of the system.

 

[Aeacus]

For 1080p monitor with good colors, look towards IPS panel. TN panel has better response time (1ms vs 5ms) but it's colors are also worse than IPS panel monitors offer.

From your store, how about: LG 24MP59G (24", IPS),
link: https://www.pcgarage.ro/monitoare-led/lg/gaming-24mp59g-p-238-inch-1-ms-black-freesync-75hz/
review: https://www.144hzmonitors.com/best-gaming-monitor/#24MP59G

As far as that GPU sale goes, it's up to you. Your money - your decision. 😀