Question Bad CPU score in passmark

[green.masood]

Hi guys.
I have a i7-10700 CPUwhen I run passmark benchmarking app. It says my CPU score is13065 while average score of users for this CPU is 15699
Is it bad?
Should I worry or not?
Plz help

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

Do the test again, only this time open up HWInfo and run it along side Passmark. Is the CPU clockspeed dropping? You are possibly throttling, which is why the lower score.

Can you give us the exat model PSU?

What power plan are your running, and what bios is running?

 

[green.masood]

Hey there,

Do the test again, only this time open up HWInfo and run it along side Passmark. Is the CPU clockspeed dropping? You are possibly throttling, which is why the lower score.

Can you give us the exat model PSU?

What power plan are your running, and what bios is running?

i didnt understand. run hwinfo for checking cpu clock?just this?\
my psu is cooler master mp6501 acaag
i dont know about power plan . and my bios is asus prime z490p

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

i didnt understand. run hwinfo for checking cpu clock?just this?\
my psu is cooler master mp6501 acaag
i dont know about power plan . and my bios is asus prime z490p

HWInfo is an app. You run it at the same time as Passmark. When you do this, you will be able to see the clockspeed of the CPU. If it's low (throttling) then that might be the problem. We can then figure out how to get the CPU to full speed again.

cooler master mp6501 acaag

I cannot find this model. Are you sure it's the correct one? You can talk of the side panel to your PC and check the label on the PSU. We need to find it.

In windows search,. look for "Choose a power plan". It will then show you what power plan you are running. |It should be set to balanced mode.

You 'motherboard' is a Z490, your bios is not your motherboard. Download and open CPU-z, then go to the motherboard tab - it will tell you there what bios number you are using.

 

[green.masood]

HWInfo is an app. You run it at the same time as Passmark. When you do this, you will be able to see the clockspeed of the CPU. If it's low (throttling) then that might be the problem. We can then figure out how to get the CPU to full speed again.


I cannot find this model. Are you sure it's the correct one? You can talk of the side panel to your PC and check the label on the PSU. We need to find it.

In windows search,. look for "Choose a power plan". It will then show you what power plan you are running. |It should be set to balanced mode.

You 'motherboard' is a Z490, your bios is not your motherboard. Download and open CPU-z, then go to the motherboard tab - it will tell you there what bios number you are using.

My psu model
Userbenchmark awful result
Bios version 1621 American negatrends date : December of2021

 

[Bob.B]

My psu model
Userbenchmark awful result
Bios version 1621 American negatrends date : December of2021

Reboot.
Wait a few mins.
Run userbenchmark with the browser closed.
Post a LINK to the results page.

 

[Karadjgne]

Your psu is a CoolerMaster Gold MWE 650w V2, the number you posted is the Serial number, not the actual model.

According to user benchmark, you are seeing a turbo of just 4.6GHz, when you should be seeing 4.8GHz. There's 2 ways that can happen realistically, either a setting in bios is limiting the cpu to just 4.6GHz or your cpu cooler is so lousy that when the cpu is worked very hard, it's overheating and forcing the cpu to lower the boost to lower the temp.

That's why you need to also use HWInfo (sensors only check) which will show you all of the cores speeds, but also show all of the cores voltages and the cores temps.

In bios, make very sure MCE is turned OFF/DISABLED, as that's a supposed boost to performance but realistically limits performance by forcing too many cores to boost too high, with too high voltages, which results in too high temps which then throttles the cpu and the cpu disagrees and lowers the boosts and voltages to lower temps. End result is lower scores.

 

[green.masood]

Reboot.
Wait a few mins.
Run userbenchmark with the browser closed.
Post a LINK to the results page.

Reboot you mean restart pc?

 

[green.masood]

Your psu is a CoolerMaster Gold MWE 650w V2, the number you posted is the Serial number, not the actual model.

According to user benchmark, you are seeing a turbo of just 4.6GHz, when you should be seeing 4.8GHz. There's 2 ways that can happen realistically, either a setting in bios is limiting the cpu to just 4.6GHz or your cpu cooler is so lousy that when the cpu is worked very hard, it's overheating and forcing the cpu to lower the boost to lower the temp.

That's why you need to also use HWInfo (sensors only check) which will show you all of the cores speeds, but also show all of the cores voltages and the cores temps.

In bios, make very sure MCE is turned OFF/DISABLED, as that's a supposed boost to performance but realistically limits performance by forcing too many cores to boost too high, with too high voltages, which results in too high temps which then throttles the cpu and the cpu disagrees and lowers the boosts and voltages to lower temps. End result is lower scores.

bc i dont know editing voltages if iturn off mce my perf. and clocks wont reduce?

 

[Bob.B]

Reboot you mean restart pc?

Yes.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

My psu model
Userbenchmark awful result
Bios version 1621 American negatrends date : December of2021

Your bios is up to date. When you did that, did you clear CMOS after the update? If not, then you should do this.

 

[green.masood]

Your bios is up to date. When you did that, did you clear CMOS after the update? If not, then you should do this.

i didnt update the bios. i have upgraded to this build and bought from a local shop and unfo. i dont know what is cmos and what,s its porpuse and how to clear. plz guide me

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

i didnt update the bios. i have upgraded to this build and bought from a local shop and unfo. i dont know what is cmos and what,s its porpuse and how to clear. plz guide me

Okay, that makes sense. I would expect that if the local shop are good, they will have cleared CMOS already. That's good.

You can clear CMOS on most motherboards by shorting two pins with a screwdriver. It erases/defaults the bios, so that any little bugs don't carry over.

With what you've said, I think you will be okay.

Just to be sure check the 'SPD' tab, and the 'Memory' tab, and post a picture here. You can use imgur to post a picture here.

 

[green.masood]

Okay, that makes sense. I would expect that if the local shop are good, they will have cleared CMOS already. That's good.

You can clear CMOS on most motherboards by shorting two pins with a screwdriver. It erases/defaults the bios, so that any little bugs don't carry over.

With what you've said, I think you will be okay.

Just to be sure check the 'SPD' tab, and the 'Memory' tab, and post a picture here. You can use imgur to post a picture here.

I send picture of what you said ,Thanx
First one


The second
Off course.i have used two slot of rams but boths have the same info so I uploaded one of them.
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Btw my in- game performance is descent. So if u say everything is ok,I can sleep easily😁
And if u have suggestions I'm all ears

 

[Karadjgne]

bc i dont know editing voltages if iturn off mce my perf. and clocks wont reduce?

MCE is fake. It's an auto Multi Core Enhancement. For most boards what it does is remove the PL1 and PL2 power limits or sets them at rediculously high wattage numbers.

PL2 is the initial power. That's the first 27 seconds when Windows is trying to get all the drivers sorted out, all the connections made, files found and organized, all the necessary hardware synced and makes the cpu 'think' hard because you opened an app or game. It uses a lot of power for all that additional work, creates a lot of heat.

PL1 is the period after all that, the app is already running, everything sorted, all the ducks in a row, cpu doesn't have to think as hard or concentrate on really anything other than what it's doing, a lot of the initial startup services and processes are shut down as now unneeded. So the cpu does not need all the power of PL2, so relaxes it's power needs.

MCE removal of PL1 limits means the cpu is now forced to accept high power constantly, whether it needs it or can use it. High power = high heat = high temps = slow cpu, unless you have extremely good cpu cooler.

Your cpu has a lot of cores. Those cores are used as the software needs, the other cores are very lightly used, if used at all, from second to second, rotating core use and power. MCE forces high power use on all cores at all times, adding heat and power where none is necessary at all.

Think of it this way. You walk places in a store, you'll stop and stand to look at items, browse, continue walking etc. MCE effectively makes you constantly jog. Even when you stop to look at something, you jog in place, then jog to next item, jog in place. Doesn't take long and you are sweating like crazy, overheating, getting thirsty, muscles ache, feet get sore, legs burn. Out of breath. And grandma with her walker trundles right past you.

If MCE is enabled in bios, Turn it OFF.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

That's the first 27 seconds

This is not PL2, this is known as Tau, and is the length of time/duration the CPU spends at it's PL2 rating, before dropping back to PL1.

Agree with everything after that about MCE,.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I send picture of what you said ,Thanx
First one


The second
Off course.i have used two slot of rams but boths have the same info so I uploaded one of them.
--------------
Btw my in- game performance is descent. So if u say everything is ok,I can sleep easily😁
And if u have suggestions I'm all ears

Something seems wrong there. Your ram looks like it's running in single channel mode.

If it is running in single channel mode, you will lose about 10-15% (sometimes slightly more) performance, and particularly in gaming.

I think this could be your problem. Dual channel is much better than single channel.

Edit: If it is in single channel, this is the kind of bump in performance you would see:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUOoevhflxA
Also, you said you have to ram slots filled. But this does not seem to be the case. It's pointing at 1 x 16gb. If you had 2 x 8 then it would be dual channel.

 

[green.masood]

Something seems wrong there. Your ram looks like it's running in single channel mode.

If it is running in single channel mode, you will lose about 10-15% (sometimes slightly more) performance, and particularly in gaming.

I think this could be your problem. Dual channel is much better than single channel.

Edit: If it is in single channel, this is the kind of bump in performance you would see:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUOoevhflxA
Also, you said you have to ram slots filled. But this does not seem to be the case. It's pointing at 1 x 16gb. If you had 2 x 8 then it would be dual channel.

ok man can you teach me how to change rams to dual channel?
my beast (z490-p😀) has 4 slots of ram and i put 2*8g in two out of 4.
can i change to dual slot?

 

[green.masood]

MCE is fake. It's an auto Multi Core Enhancement. For most boards what it does is remove the PL1 and PL2 power limits or sets them at rediculously high wattage numbers.

PL2 is the initial power. That's the first 27 seconds when Windows is trying to get all the drivers sorted out, all the connections made, files found and organized, all the necessary hardware synced and makes the cpu 'think' hard because you opened an app or game. It uses a lot of power for all that additional work, creates a lot of heat.

PL1 is the period after all that, the app is already running, everything sorted, all the ducks in a row, cpu doesn't have to think as hard or concentrate on really anything other than what it's doing, a lot of the initial startup services and processes are shut down as now unneeded. So the cpu does not need all the power of PL2, so relaxes it's power needs.

MCE removal of PL1 limits means the cpu is now forced to accept high power constantly, whether it needs it or can use it. High power = high heat = high temps = slow cpu, unless you have extremely good cpu cooler.

Your cpu has a lot of cores. Those cores are used as the software needs, the other cores are very lightly used, if used at all, from second to second, rotating core use and power. MCE forces high power use on all cores at all times, adding heat and power where none is necessary at all.

Think of it this way. You walk places in a store, you'll stop and stand to look at items, browse, continue walking etc. MCE effectively makes you constantly jog. Even when you stop to look at something, you jog in place, then jog to next item, jog in place. Doesn't take long and you are sweating like crazy, overheating, getting thirsty, muscles ache, feet get sore, legs burn. Out of breath. And grandma with her walker trundles right past you.

If MCE is enabled in bios, Turn it OFF.

thanx for your info.
so in which section of bios can i turn off mce to boost cpu performance?

 

[geofelt]

Your motherboard manual will tell you which two of your 4 ram slots should be populated to get dual channel operation.
Running single channel would account for the difference in passmark scores.

There are other more serious reasons why you might be running in single channel mode.

 

[Karadjgne]

This is not PL2, this is known as Tau, and is the length of time/duration the CPU spends at it's PL2 rating, before dropping back to PL1.

Agree with everything after that about MCE,.

PL2 is the initial power. That's the first 27 seconds when Windows is trying to get all the drivers sorted out, etc

Tau is 27 seconds on the non-k cpus. PL2 is the power limit during that 27 seconds, which is what I was referring to.

 

[PassMark]

Looking at the individual sub-test results in the PassMark CPU test can also be instructive.
The Prime number and Physics tests are most sensitive to RAM speeds (they use the most RAM). So if just these two give abnormally low benchmarks, this is also a sign of RAM issues.

Also the RAM benchmark is (of course) sensitive to the RAM configuration.

Here are some numbers I collected for the RAM Test. Up to 157% performance improvement on the RAM tests between the worse and best config.
CPUMark also changed by up to 48%, worst to best,

RAM Test	1 Stick Default Settings Single Channel	2 Sticks Default Settings Dual Channel	2 Sticks XMP Profile 1 Dual Channel	2 Sticks XMP Profile 2 Dual Channel	4 Sticks XMP Profile 2 Quad Channel	Percentage Improvement Worst vs Best Result
Read (MB/sec, 1 CPU core)	17161	17416	17808	18551	18871	9.9%
Write (MB/sec, 1 CPU core)	7983	8351	8397	8512	9056	13.4%
Latency (nano sec)*	43	43	43	43	42	2.3%
Threaded (MB/sec)	19923	27499	27854	28809	55027	176%
CPU Mark	9055	10822	10919	11616	13407	48%

*Lower values are better.