Bad overall performance GTX 1060 6GB and stuttering

[noonoo300]

Hello people of tom's hardware!

so as the title says, im having some problems in games.
my systems specs are:

CPU: Intel i5-4590 3.3GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte B85M-D2V
GPU: Palit GTX 1060 6G Dual
SSD: None
HDD: 1TB Drive
RAM: Transcend JM1600KLH-8G 1x8GB
PSU: FSP 650W
OS: Win 10 Pro 64bit

So there's a few problems in gaming, (which i'm not sure BTW are gpu related). First of all, I got the 1060 about a month ago and it performs okay but a bit disappointing. i upgraded from a R9 290, and barely see any difference in performance. in Unigine Heaven all maxed out DX11, got a score of 1600 non overclocked, which seems kinda bad.

*also i think worth noting, is that i tried to OC it with Afterburner, started raising just a tiny bit, then running a benchmark and after a minute everything started lagging like hell and i had to restart my PC (highest temp was around 76c)

Another issue im having, is stuttering. nothing too groundbreaking usually but in games like GTA V and Witcher 3, its very noticeable and occurs every few seconds. I tried capping FPS to 60 through RivaTuner and i think it helped but just a little bit. But in general, i never seem to get that smooth gaming experience that im looking for. I just dont know what could help - more ram? SSD? A better monitor? (im using a 21.5 inch 1920x1080 60Hz monitor), is anything in these specs a bottleneck? i just literally dont know what i can do to help it, since buying a new GPU didn't seem to work.

So yeah, sorry for long post, help would be very appreciated.

EDIT: Found out that one of the CPU cores reaches a 100% in certain games (overall CPU usage about 65%), Is that a bottleneck?

 

[dontlistentome]

Well, depending on the game, I wouldn't expect too much difference between those cards. They are both very strong for 1080p 60hz gaming.

As to the stuttering, I'd look at the driver situation. Did you remove all AMD drivers and do a clean install of the Nvidia drivers? You also have 1 stick of 8gb, dual channel would be preferable. Finally, use a program like MSI Afterburner to monitor CPU and GPU usage. Do either of them hit 100% around the time you see stuttering in the framerate?

An SSD is a good overall investment, but it won't help game framerate.

 

[SgtScream]

Uninstall afterburner and see if the stuttering persists.

 

[noonoo300]

Well, depending on the game, I wouldn't expect too much difference between those cards. They are both very strong for 1080p 60hz gaming.

As to the stuttering, I'd look at the driver situation. Did you remove all AMD drivers and do a clean install of the Nvidia drivers? You also have 1 stick of 8gb, dual channel would be preferable. Finally, use a program like MSI Afterburner to monitor CPU and GPU usage. Do either of them hit 100% around the time you see stuttering in the framerate?

An SSD is a good overall investment, but it won't help game framerate.

First of all thank you for the quick reply. what i forgot to mention is that i am hitting that 60 fps most of the time, it just stutters. like every 2 fps drop feels like 30. and my drivers are okay, i did format my PC before installing the new GPU

 

[noonoo300]

Uninstall afterburner and see if the stuttering persists.

Thank you for your reply, sadly, problem started long before that Afterburner, which is why i installed it in the first place.

 

[dextermat]

The best thing to do is open task manager and msi afterburner.
Play the games and when you have the lag, go and see how GPU / CPU is behaving (bottleneck) or if a process has high cpu usage.
Also monitor your temps, you might have something overheating.
The next thing to look at, defrag the hard drive with game installed
Lastly, while you PSU should have enough power, it might be getting old and struggle on high loads.
BTW it's a long shot because it is a great PSU

good luck

 

[noonoo300]

The best thing to do is open task manager and msi afterburner.
Play the games and when you have the lag, go and see how GPU / CPU is behaving (bottleneck) or if a process has high cpu usage.
Also monitor your temps, you might have something overheating.
The next thing to look at, defrag the hard drive with game installed
Lastly, while you PSU should have enough power, it might be getting old and struggle on high loads.
BTW it's a long shot because it is a great PSU

good luck

Thank's for the reply, so i did what you asked, and found no bottleneck (CPU doesnt reach 100 before GPU does), also temps seem okay, but a thing worth mentioning about the PSU is that its fan actually did start making noises about a year ago or so, and i still have warranty on it. can a PSU actually cause stutter? also ive noticed that my disk is almost at a 100% all of the time, could that also cause stutter?

and is that score on Unigine Heaven that i mentioned okay, or is it bad?

 

[noonoo300]

Guys, BTW the stutter isnt only on demanding games, it's also on really non demanding games like Terraria.

 

[xafro1]

Sadly the 1060 and 1080 cards have been getting reports of stuttering problems for a while now. Nvidea states it is a OS related issue and Microsoft has admitted it is a problem they are working on. So far I have not seen anything that fixes this issue and it does not seem to effect everyone. you can reduce the issues by disabling all the game settings live Xbox dvr and the like nvidea game recording that sort of thing but it only reduces the issues.

 

[SgtScream]

There are a handful of suggestions to fix this on the below thread:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1004600/geforce-drivers/all-games-stuttering-with-fps-drops-since-windows-10-creators-update/

 

[noonoo300]

Sadly the 1060 and 1080 cards have been getting reports of stuttering problems for a while now. Nvidea states it is a OS related issue and Microsoft has admitted it is a problem they are working on. So far I have not seen anything that fixes this issue and it does not seem to effect everyone. you can reduce the issues by disabling all the game settings live Xbox dvr and the like nvidea game recording that sort of thing but it only reduces the issues.

Those are already disabled, but thanks anyway

 

[noonoo300]

Well, depending on the game, I wouldn't expect too much difference between those cards. They are both very strong for 1080p 60hz gaming.

As to the stuttering, I'd look at the driver situation. Did you remove all AMD drivers and do a clean install of the Nvidia drivers? You also have 1 stick of 8gb, dual channel would be preferable. Finally, use a program like MSI Afterburner to monitor CPU and GPU usage. Do either of them hit 100% around the time you see stuttering in the framerate?

An SSD is a good overall investment, but it won't help game framerate.

That single channeling seems to have been the problem (for the most part at least). THANK YOU!