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Wow...It seem i had REALLY misunderstood this rule ! ....
I feel dumb ...but ...banding is quite hard to harness....
Thanx for your great help
keep up the good work guys...
"Jeff Heikkinen" <no.way@jose.org> a écrit dans le message de
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> Oh no! It's Phil!
> > What happen if i use let's say Helm of chatzuk ability to give banding
to
> > any creature, and give banding to a Bushido samurai...and band it with
> > another bushido samurai....
>
> I assume you mean attack with the two of them as a band? (There's no
> other meaningful definition of "band with" in the way you're using it).
>
> > Now the question....what happen....do they lose bushido....wich bushido
take
> > effect if there is any ?
>
> No. Why would they lose any abilities? I'm not sure what the question
> is.
>
> > And what happen if i give banding to a opponent creature that have
flying
> > and the only other creature it can band with is non-flying ? does is
attack
> > become non-flying attack ?
>
> You seem to misunderstand banding rather seriously, sorry.
>
> First of all, I think you probably have the idea that Banding somehow
> merges two or more creatures into one. It does no such thing. (The only
> thing that does, as far as I know, is a card from the soon-to-be-
> released Unhinged set called S.N.O.T.; you'll notice this card is not
> from a "normal", tournament-legal set.)
>
> Banding does exactly two things:
>
> 1. It allows the player who controls the creatures with Banding to
> decide how to assign combat damage dealt to those creatures, in cases
> where there's a choice. For example, let's consider your earlier
> question about multiple blockers. You have a 3/4 creature attacking an
> opponent who controls a number of 1/1 creatures. Several people have
> already said what will normally happen, but let's say one of the 1/1
> creatures is a Benalish Hero, which has Banding, and the Hero is among
> the four blocking creatures. Then your opponent, rather than you, would
> get to decide how your 3/4 creature dealt its damage. Your opponent
> would almost certainly foist off all the damage on one of the blocking
> creatures (probably not the Hero, in case he needs to repeat this
> trick); thus your creature would not only die, but would only take one
> of the 1/1's with it, rather than three.
>
> Note that this only applies to combat damage. If a creature with
> banding, or one attacking in a band, gets hit with a Lightning Bolt,
> that works just fine on them.
>
> 2. It allows creatures to attack as a band. A band can consist of:
> * Any number of creatures with Banding
> * Up to one creature without Banding
> * Any number of creatures, except one, that don't have Banding but do
> have the even more obscure ability Bands with Other <creature type>,
> where the creature type listed is the same. (Confused? Don't worry about
> it, you'll probably never see it in actual play. The only decent card
> that involves Bands with Other is a rare from Legends, called Master of
> the Hunt.)
>
> Creatures attacking as a band are still separate creatures for all
> purposes. However, if one member of the band is blocked, the blocking
> creature also blocks all other members of the band (even those it would
> normally be unable to block). For example, if a creature with flying, a
> creature with protection from green, and a creature with no abilities
> attack as a band, your opponent can block the third creature with
> nonflying, green creature, and thus block all three creatures, even
> though it would normally be unable to block two of them. This is
> informally called "mutual assistance".
>
> The advantage of this is that the blocking creature takes a lot more
> damage and thus usually dies, while you (thanks to the other part of
> banding) get to spread the damage around in whatever fashion you please,
> possibly saving all your creatures. The drawback is that your attacking
> band will often be a lot easier to block than some of the individual
> creatures in it, as the above example illustrates.
>
> So to revisit your bushido question - the creatures would not lose
> bushido, in fact, bushido would be all the more effective in this
> situation, as it would trigger for both those creatures if it triggered
> for either of them.
>
> And to answer your final set of questions, first of all, even if you
> give your opponent's creature banding, you don't get to decide whether
> or how your opponent forms attacking creatures into bands. If your
> opponent does choose to form such a band, this may as good as negate the
> flying creature's flying ability, however, it also means you can't just
> block the flier by itself; the drawbacks of this for you don't
> necessarily outweigh the advantages. I can't think of a situation where
> *successfully* giving an opponent's creature Banding would be to your
> advantage (Horobi in play would make using the Helm on an opponent's
> creature a good idea, but that doesn't actually end up giving Banding).
>
>
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