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Hello,
I'm considering an I7-860 vs i7-920. I'm not a gamer. This pc will be used for basic tasks, email, MS office programs. I do have 3gigs of music and want to rip my entire CD and Album library. I also have lots of pics and some video that I manipulate from time to time...I'd like to not purchase a new computer for the next 3-4 years. With that said... which will give me the best performance and longevity. There's only a 65$ difference in price, but that is half my tax.
 
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for what your doing, no you would not need a 1gb card as almost everything you'll be doing will be using the cpu than the gpu. If the average X58 and P55 motherboards had integrated graphics, i would just recommend using that instead.

Also, 8 GB of ram is very large. Even todays gaming computer normally only have 4GB to 6GB of ram. (depending on set up.)




Although, if your wanting to save some money and have a powerful enough system down the road to fit your needs.

i would recommend an AMD Athlon II x4 (620 or above) or a phenom II x4 (945 or above) ...

majestye

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The systems are coming with 8gb of Ram, 1TB Hard drive, and 1GB video card. Do I really need 1GB video card since I'm not gaming? and the 8gb Ram - I figure would be good.
 

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Both platforms P55, and X58 are fine. If you don't plan on overclocking go with the P55 (i7 860 or i5 750), they will be a little faster or just as fast for less money, with less heat, and consume less energy.

If you want a more detailed comparison you need to find out each component before we can help you with the best box value. But just looking at the processor and price differences, you won't go wrong with any of those.

You don't need a 1GB video card, but the price difference between a 500MB and a 1GB VGA card is less than $20 when that option is available. You need to find out what model the video card is. Its all about the video card model, not how much memory it comes with. You don't need to spend more than $99, but you will need one.
 

majestye

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Thanks for the responses...

The video card on all three systems is 1GB ATI radeon HD 4650, I have the option to get an NVidia and other ones, but does it make much difference if I'm a non gamer?

For the I7-920 says 2.66ghz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 Cache, 8GB DDR3-1066mhz SDRAM (4 dimms)
For the I7-860 says 2.8ghz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache, 8GB DDR3-1333mhz Sdram 4 dimms

For the i5-750 2.66GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache, 8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs]

1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
1GB ATI Radeon HD 4650 [DVI, HDMI, VGA]

Choice of:
LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
Blu-ray player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner
Blu-ray writer & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner

Since I don't watch movies on my computer... just non consumer video & Recording editing and Picture manipulation, I'm thinking I can just go with the lightscribe and not blu-ray.
 


for what your doing, no you would not need a 1gb card as almost everything you'll be doing will be using the cpu than the gpu. If the average X58 and P55 motherboards had integrated graphics, i would just recommend using that instead.

Also, 8 GB of ram is very large. Even todays gaming computer normally only have 4GB to 6GB of ram. (depending on set up.)




Although, if your wanting to save some money and have a powerful enough system down the road to fit your needs.

i would recommend an AMD Athlon II x4 (620 or above) or a phenom II x4 (945 or above) , 4GB ram, a low end gpu or integrated graphics, and a 500+GB HDD. This should suit you need quite well.

Something like this computer specs is what im talking about.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229160
 
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THANKS! this helps quite a bit. I usually want to get the best and probably end up with overkill. This gives me an idea of where to start and it's much less than the $1400 I thought I'd have to spend.
 

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Don't let the video memory mislead you. the 4650 is not a very strong card, its only worth about $60 on its own. Its good for hi def movies and some light gaming. The video memory does not tell you if its a good or bad card, alot of vendors will put 1GB of memory on a bad video card to make it sound better than it is since ram is cheap.

So for what you described a 4650 is not necessary, but its not overkill either. I would focus on deciding what the right processor and ram are for your needs.

I agree that the i5-750 would be best for your needs, I would only consider going upto an i7 if you were running some heavily multithreaded apps. So unless your really serious about video editing and rendering I would stick with the i5.
 

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Ok so sounds like i5-750, 6GB Ram, 1TB HD, and upgrading to 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 220?

Last question: it was recommended to go with an AMD 620 or Phenom II 945 +, Is there any major difference as to choosing Intel over AMD? The AMD systems are coming in about $150 - $200 less, so I want to consider them only if they provide comparable performance (for what I do).

Also, HP or ZT Affinity? Am I paying more for the HP name and reputation or is ZT Affinity an ok option? My last desktop was built by a computer guy, so does it really make a difference?
 

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6GB of ram?...i don't think there is dual channeled 6GB, sticks come in 1,2,4GB sticks
-for your needs i would go with the cheaper amd, you don't really do anything on your computer so a cheap amd would be fine along with 3-4GB of ram.
 

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As others have said, a video card ain't super duper powerful just coz it has 1 gig of Ram in it.

I would also probably would not want to go less than a 4670 videocard, and a i5-750 should be more than you need, so no point in paying extra for the i7-860.

If the pricing wasn't so crazy right now, I would get a 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Black drive(looks like the fastest non-SSD hard drive on the market), and unless you can get one at a reasonable price, I would instead go with the Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black Drive.
 

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Ofcourse right now he doesn't need them but that could always change. Knowing i could always go to a sexcore :) would be a great thing.
The reason why I made a conscious decision to go 1156 instead of 1366, was becausing I just couldn't see myself upgrading the CPU within 2 years and buying just so you can update your CPU, has upfront costs I wanted to avoid since I never thought I would do that.

By the time a lot of people would feel the need to update their CPU, they would be better off buying the latest and greatest platform of the day in my view.
 

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get i3, i5, or Pentium Dual-Core.

Unless socket lga775 isn't an option.

Pentium Dual core is great for those uses, and a tiny fraction of the price.
 

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My pc is a full-blown high performance PC and it never uses more than about 2GB ram. I have 6gb. You probably only need 4GB.
 
There's going to be a 2.6Ghz Xeon hex in the 600 dollar range but shhhhhh :)



There going to be the core i7 970 (6 core cpu) in 3Q of this year thats going to be in that price range.

As for links. i'll proved 1 link but these many others can be quickly found at google. links have been exploding for the past few days about the new i7.

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18405
 
I think he wanted links to the Xeon's....


Xeon X5680 3333 MHz 6 x 256 KB 12 MB 2 x ??? GT/s QPI 25x 3 x DDR3-1333 130 W LGA 1366 March 16, 2010
Xeon X5670 2933 MHz 6 x 256 KB 12 MB 2 x ??? GT/s QPI 22x 3 x DDR3-1333 95 W LGA 1366 March 16, 2010
Xeon X5660 2800 MHz 6 x 256 KB 12 MB 2 x ??? GT/s QPI 21x 3 x DDR3-1333 95 W LGA 1366 March 16, 2010
Xeon X5650 2667 MHz 6 x 256 KB 12 MB 2 x ??? GT/s QPI 20x 3 x DDR3-1333 95 W LGA 1366 March 16, 2010

I know. it just if he ask for link on the core i7 970 i have them coved as well.
 

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seriously guys? hes going to check email, listen to music and burn cds and dvds. why would he need anything more than a dual core. the pentium G6950 would be more than plenty. 4 gigs of ram would be plenty and he wouldnt not have to upgrade. as for a video card, the onboard video of the pentium would be plenty.