Build Advice Been a while, new PC build.

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
G

Grandpa Jim

Prominent
Aug 8, 2023
21
4
515
Approximate Purchase Date: This month

Budget Range: Whatever it takes

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Final Fantasy 14, general business

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: Cpu, MB, grafics card

Do you need to buy OS: No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg,com

Location: Phoenix Az.

Parts Preferences: NO ASUS, nvidia graphics card, Gigabyte MB

Overclocking: maybe

SLI or Crossfire: maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080,

Additional Comments: I have 6 dead laptops, I would like to use the harddrives, SSD, and memory from these. They are all Gaming laptops, including 2 Alienware. My last build was the first Intel 4 processor XT i believe, it was, and is still running, Need a system that will display FF 14 in all its glory, Should not take a Top-Of-the line grafics card to do that. Not sure about the latest components, that is where i need the help, but I have been building PC's for a while. Toms is my bible!
 
This build is meant for gaming at 1080P. Best to have a G-Sync compatible monitor if you plan on doing any gaming or this build is a waste. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ B&H)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1519.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 20:41 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-rtx4070-o12g/

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4
 
Why_Me said:
This build is meant for gaming at 1080P. Best to have a G-Sync compatible monitor if you plan on doing any gaming or this build is a waste. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ B&H)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1519.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 20:41 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-rtx4070-o12g/

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4
Click to expand...
LOL that is massive overkill for the game listed, and I would never recommend a F CPU to save 30 bucks when it's already way over what is needed.

Best to have a G-Sync compatible monitor if you plan on doing any gaming or this build is a waste WHAT ?????????????
 
Last edited:
Zerk2012 said:
LOL that is massive overkill for the game listed, and I would never recommend a F CPU to save 30 bucks when it's already way over what is needed.

Best to have a G-Sync compatible monitor if you plan on doing any gaming or this build is a waste WHAT ?????????????
Click to expand...
Check this out ZERK. The OP has a mess of gaming laptops. Do you have any idea how much a gaming laptop cost? *Removed by moderator* . That's a $1500 build that will last the OP a good long time.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Why_Me said:
This build is meant for gaming at 1080P. Best to have a G-Sync compatible monitor if you plan on doing any gaming or this build is a waste. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ B&H)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1519.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 20:41 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-rtx4070-o12g/

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4
Click to expand...
Reread the OP thread, he wants to re-use laptop memory in this build, so unless the B760 can accept laptop SO-Dimms, your mobo/cpu choice is a non-starter.
 
I think the OP just doesn't realize that the SODIMM memory in a laptop is not the same as standard DIMM memory on a desktop and is not compatible.

I also think the i7 is a bit of a waste when the i5-13600K would be a better overall fit because it's got integrated graphics as a backup solution for troubleshooting (the F variant does not), is overclockable (the F variant is not), and costs less, all while only have 2 less cores.

Other than that I think the OP should clarify if they meant to carry over the "NO" from "NO ASUS" to all three things listed.

After that, we should assume they already have a case, PSU, a cooler, and fans since they didn't list those components as what they need for their upgrade (unless they intend to clarify that they do actually need more component recommendations than just CPU, MB, and GPU)
 
Why_Me said:
Check this out ZERK. The OP has a mess of gaming laptops. Do you have any idea how much a gaming laptop cost? *Removed by moderator* . That's a $1500 build that will last the OP a good long time.
Click to expand...
And LT has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Less than 900 bucks!
All I go by is what he says it will be used for!

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($138.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($108.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $890.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 21:35 EDT-0400
 
QwerkyPengwen said:
I think the OP just doesn't realize that the SODIMM memory in a laptop is not the same as standard DIMM memory on a desktop and is not compatible.

I also think the i7 is a bit of a waste when the i5-13600K would be a better overall fit because it's got integrated graphics as a backup solution for troubleshooting (the F variant does not), is overclockable (the F variant is not), and costs less, all while only have 2 less cores.

Other than that I think the OP should clarify if they meant to carry over the "NO" from "NO ASUS" to all three things listed.

After that, we should assume they already have a case, PSU, a cooler, and fans since they didn't list those components as what they need for their upgrade (unless they intend to clarify that they do actually need more component recommendations than just CPU, MB, and GPU)
Click to expand...
Integrated graphics with an MSI card.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($379.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.00 @ Amazon)
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1247.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 21:57 EDT-0400
 
Last edited:
Zerk2012 said:
And LT has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Less than 900 bucks!

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($138.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($108.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $890.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 21:35 EDT-0400
Click to expand...
If you're going that route then go for the 5600 seeing how not only does it run cooler than the older 5600X but it also cost less. Take the savings and put it towards a better board.
 
Why_Me said:
If you're going that route then go for the 5600 seeing how not only does it run cooler than the older 5600X but it also cost less. Take the savings and put it towards a better board.
Click to expand...
Not going to get off the original topic you can if you wish mine is 900 bucks and will do everything he listed, not everybody plays the newest AAA games.
 
Why_Me said:
Why would you suggest an older cpu that runs hotter and cost more than the 5600?
Click to expand...
Good processor probably overkill for what he said, same as the video card and 32GB of memory. But will completely max out what he said and @1080p will play all games that are even out today @1080p with decent settings.

Not the newest games maxed out but still decent stetting with a target of 60FPS with mid or so settings at that resolution.
LT's can't compare to PC for the money spent.

That's my last post here unless the poster asks me a direct question.
 
WOW! A lot of reply's. I have had nothing but trouble with ASUS, that is the meaning of that comment. Is there anything I can salvage from the laptops? They all have 1 tb hard drives, 6 drives in a raid array??? My monitor is G-sync capable. Are there any regular desktop cases, that are good., I am not sure I want another mini-tower. I am currently running a "ROG zephyrus", from ASUS, that has fans that make strange noises when I start it up in the morning, hence the quest for a new PC. I was thinking about replaceing the fans, but ASUS support said they do not sell parts, and it could take 15 days to get it repaired. At least if I build it myself, I can repair it. SWMBO and I usually get new laptops about the same time. Just after the warrenty expires. I have 2 ASUS, 2 MSI, and 2 Alienware, stacked up on my bookshelf, in various states of functioning.

It looks like Why Me, seems to be along the lines of what I want. I kinda like Gigabyte MB's, for old times sake, is there an equivalent? Are laptop SSD's useable in a PC? Is ABIT still in business? I did a lot of PC's with their MBs. Thanks for all the information, I will probably be back, with , more stupid questions, Thanks!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Why_Me
Grandpa Jim said:
WOW! A lot of reply's. I have had nothing but trouble with ASUS, that is the meaning of that comment. Is there anything I can salvage from the laptops? They all have 1 tb hard drives, 6 drives in a raid array??? My monitor is G-sync capable. Are there any regular desktop cases, that are good., I am not sure I want another mini-tower. I am currently running a "ROG zephyrus", from ASUS, that has fans that make strange noises when I start it up in the morning, hence the quest for a new PC. I was thinking about replaceing the fans, but ASUS support said they do not sell parts, and it could take 15 days to get it repaired. At least if I build it myself, I can repair it. SWMBO and I usually get new laptops about the same time. Just after the warrenty expires. I have 2 ASUS, 2 MSI, and 2 Alienware, stacked up on my bookshelf, in various states of functioning.

It looks like Why Me, seems to be along the lines of what I want. I kinda like Gigabyte MB's, for old times sake, is there an equivalent? Are laptop SSD's useable in a PC? Is ABIT still in business? I did a lot of PC's with their MBs. Thanks for all the information, I will probably be back, with , more stupid questions, Thanks!
Click to expand...
Abit has been out of business for awhile now ... well over a decade. MSI makes some decent boards these days. Your laptop SSD should work fine. That build I posted might have been a tad overkill. Here's a far more mellow build as in not nearly as aggressive.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.00 @ Amazon)
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $947.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 23:18 EDT-0400
 
Looks pretty good, however I would like on board graphics. One of my laptop husks, has a broken Nvidia card. Want to avoid that situation. A lot of it comes from Amazon, SWMBO, will like that. Can I use the laptop Hard drives? I believe the MB supports raid, that might be something to look at in the future.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Why_Me
Grandpa Jim said:
Looks pretty good, however I would like on board graphics. One of my laptop husks, has a broken Nvidia card. Want to avoid that situation. A lot of it comes from Amazon, SWMBO, will like that. Can I use the laptop Hard drives? I believe the MB supports raid, that might be something to look at in the future.
Click to expand...
Your laptop SSD's should work fine.

Integrated graphics.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tLKKHx/intel-core-i5-12400-25-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512400

Intel® Core™ i5-12400 Processor (18M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i5-12400 Processor (18M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.
ark.intel.com ark.intel.com
 
It's funny that OP says that about ASUS when I have had nothing but good experiences with ASUS products both for MB and graphics cards, but have had 2 failed MSI boards, 2 failed Gagabyte boards, and 1 failed Gigabyte graphics card in the past.

Just basically means that brand has nothing to do with it, and it has more to do with just getting a good quality product off the production line and not getting unlucky.
 
When I did Intels first 4 processor, I followed Toms advice, and got the ASUS mb. Would not POST. Returned to Newegg, got a replacement. Would not POST. Returned to Newegg. Went to Frys, got a ABIT MB, still running today.

And now for something completely different. I have a 65 inch Plasma monitor, can I use that for a PC monitor? Has anyone ever tried that? Could be a very Imersive RPG environment,
 
Grandpa Jim said:
When I did Intels first 4 processor, I followed Toms advice, and got the ASUS mb. Would not POST. Returned to Newegg, got a replacement. Would not POST. Returned to Newegg. Went to Frys, got a ABIT MB, still running today.

And now for something completely different. I have a 65 inch Plasma monitor, can I use that for a PC monitor? Has anyone ever tried that? Could be a very Imersive RPG environment,
Click to expand...
If you use that as a monitor then look at a gpu with more VRAM such as this one for example.


www.tomshardware.com

RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Roughly 40% Faster Than 8GB at Higher Resolutions

The performance advantage is title specific, but in the games that do take advantage of higher memory capacity, the performance gains can be quite large.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom