Behold, The Return Of The Model F And Its Buckling Spring

[scolaner]

To say that enthusiast keyboard community is both passionate and resourceful would be an understatement, especially when it comes to resurrecting favorite typing technologies of yore. To wit: The Model F reproduction is here.

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[clutchc]

I need a little help here...
Why would one pay $325-$399 for it? I know I'm not in the loop when it comes to enthusiast KBs, but my IBM model M has more keys that that. And looks better. Please fill this uninformed dummy in on the error in my thinking.

 

[bit_user]

I lol at you guys and your obsession with planar, rectangular keyboards. We've had something better for 25 years, already!

https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/

 

[clonazepam]

[quotemsg=19907811,0,328798]I lol at you guys and your obsession with planar, rectangular keyboards. We've had something better for 25 years, already!

https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/[/quotemsg]

Put a cup holder in the middle and I'm sold.

 

[bit_user]

[quotemsg=19907848,0,389923][quotemsg=19907811,0,328798]https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/[/quotemsg]

Put a cup holder in the middle and I'm sold.[/quotemsg]
It's a tempting spot to put food items. Sad but true.

 

[mwryder55]

If I could figure out how to get my PS/2 Model M keyboards to work with Windows 10 I would be very happy. I loved the feel of those keyboards and still have 2 in good shape. The problem is that they won't work in Windows 10 from a cold boot. They work in the BIOS and after a warm reboot, just not in a cold boot.

 

[Karadjgne]

You'd need to have the kb driver load at boot from cmos, otherwise it has to wait til it loads with windows. A cold boot releases any stored drivers, a warm boot doesn't, they stay in the ram. You'd need a custom cmos file, not for the uninitiated or faint of heart to say the least.

 

[clutchc]

[quotemsg=19907937,0,644919]If I could figure out how to get my PS/2 Model M keyboards to work with Windows 10 I would be very happy. I loved the feel of those keyboards and still have 2 in good shape. The problem is that they won't work in Windows 10 from a cold boot. They work in the BIOS and after a warm reboot, just not in a cold boot.[/quotemsg]

That's odd. My Model M works in Win10 just fine. Does your board have a PS/2 port or are you using a USB adapter?

 

[dudmont]

http://www.pckeyboard.com/
Model Ms, right here! USB or PS2, I have a PS1 from about 10 years ago. I'll admit, when I see an article or news post about keyboards, I just skip it, I know what I like and won't be looking elsewhere.

 

[clutchc]

[quotemsg=19908032,0,1919666]http://www.pckeyboard.com/
Model Ms, right here! USB or PS2, I have a PS1 from about 10 years ago. I'll admit, when I see an article or news post about keyboards, I just skip it, I know what I like and won't be looking elsewhere.[/quotemsg]

Thanks for the link. I wonder if those $36 boards are any good? What they lack from the better ones?

 

[mwryder55]

[quotemsg=19908000,0,237355][quotemsg=19907937,0,644919]If I could figure out how to get my PS/2 Model M keyboards to work with Windows 10 I would be very happy. I loved the feel of those keyboards and still have 2 in good shape. The problem is that they won't work in Windows 10 from a cold boot. They work in the BIOS and after a warm reboot, just not in a cold boot.[/quotemsg]

That's odd. My Model M works in Win10 just fine. Does your board have a PS/2 port or are you using a USB adapter?[/quotemsg]

I am using the PS/2 port on an ASUS motherboard. The keyboard works fine in the BIOS screen even from a cold boot but will not work in Windows unless I do a warm reboot. I tried a USB adapter with the same results. The only thing I can think of is that the keyboard doesn't respond quick enough when booting for some reason.

 

[Th3pwn3r]

Straight out of China for $300, I'm sure this will be a big seller /sarcasm

 

[clutchc]

[quotemsg=19908090,0,644919] ...The only thing I can think of is that the keyboard doesn't respond quick enough when booting for some reason.[/quotemsg]

Are you using Windows 10’s Fast Startup, by any chance?
I noticed you said keyboard"s" plural. Are they all they same, and do any of them work at the initial boot?

 

[mwryder55]

[quotemsg=19908104,0,237355][quotemsg=19908090,0,644919] ...The only thing I can think of is that the keyboard doesn't respond quick enough when booting for some reason.[/quotemsg]

Are you using Windows 10’s Fast Startup, by any chance?
I noticed you said keyboard"s" plural. Are they all they same, and do any of them work at the initial boot?[/quotemsg]

I have two keyboards from 1996 and neither works with a cold boot. I will mess around with fast startup to see if maybe having it save the drivers on shutdown will enable them when I boot back up.

 

[dudmont]

[quotemsg=19908065,0,237355][quotemsg=19908032,0,1919666]http://www.pckeyboard.com/
Model Ms, right here! USB or PS2, I have a PS1 from about 10 years ago. I'll admit, when I see an article or news post about keyboards, I just skip it, I know what I like and won't be looking elsewhere.[/quotemsg]

Thanks for the link. I wonder if those $36 boards are any good? What they lack from the better ones?[/quotemsg]

Looking at the link, it appears to just be the green key caps. No keyboard included.

 

[clutchc]

[quotemsg=19908193,0,1919666]

Looking at the link, it appears to just be the green key caps. No keyboard included.
[/quotemsg]

Lol... (laughing at self)
You appear to be right. I didn't take the time to read the description. So much finding a $36 model M... Thanks for saving me an embarrassing order.

 

[LordConrad]

Nothing new here, I've been using a Unicomp Classic 104-key buckling spring keyboard for years, I have two of them. Nothing beats the noisy, tactile feel of the buckling spring!
https://www.pckeyboard.com/

 

[DSpider]

You lost me at $325. It looks like a $3.25 keyboard at a yard sale, not $325, wtf. Did they forget to add the decimal point somewhere?

 

[drwho1]

This is stupid, plain and simple. It doesn't even has F-Keys... nor any of the other keys that we are accustomed to for decades.

 

[techy1966]

I'm confused when did they dust off all of the keyboards from the 80's? I did not know 1980 style key boards were making a come back. It is a good thing I kept my old old FUJITSU Mechanical Keyboard. I used to use it in the early 90's it was very click friendly but not as clicky as the IBM M series. I guess I was using mechanical keyboards way before they made a come back now. I remember it being very heavy as well since it had a full metal frame and bottom it cots a fair amount as well if bought brand new. I used to get most of my computer stuff from swap meets so I think I paid like $10 CAD for it brand new they sold for $150.

 

[dudmont]

I've never been able to figure out why people wouldn't use a well built mechanical. Their lifespans are so much longer, they pay for themselves over having to replace a cheap keyboard every couple of years, cause the most important keys wear out. Plus you get the awesome function of the keyboard to boot.

 

[g-unit1111]

[quotemsg=19907811,0,328798]I lol at you guys and your obsession with planar, rectangular keyboards. We've had something better for 25 years, already!

https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/[/quotemsg]

Man that thing makes my hands hurt just looking at it.

 

[bit_user]

[quotemsg=19910438,0,537231][quotemsg=19907811,0,328798]https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/[/quotemsg]
Man that thing makes my hands hurt just looking at it.[/quotemsg]
Why? I got one about 17 years ago and adjusted to it in about 1 day. The keys are arranged to match the natural range of motion of your fingers, and the wells & thumb-keypads are separated and angled to keep your wrists mostly parallel.

The only negative is that it's taller than a normal keyboard, meaning that you might need to use a keyboard tray. If your desk is fixed-height, perhaps you should be using one anyhow.

Edit: I guess the other negative is the price. But, considering this is a thread about a similarly-priced keyboard with far fewer benefits, I didn't think to mention it.

 

[g-unit1111]

[quotemsg=19911827,0,328798]Why? I got one about 17 years ago and adjusted to it in about 1 day. The keys are arranged to match the natural range of motion of your fingers, and the wells & thumb-keypads are separated and angled to keep your wrists mostly parallel.

The only negative is that it's taller than a normal keyboard, meaning that you might need to use a keyboard tray. If your desk is fixed-height, perhaps you should be using one anyhow.
[/quotemsg]

I've never been a big fan of ergonomic keyboards to begin with, but that one just looks like it's way out there.

 

[bit_user]

[quotemsg=19911843,0,537231]I've never been a big fan of ergonomic keyboards to begin with,[/quotemsg]
While some are garbage (or even counter-productive for reducing RSI injuries), I'm a believer in the strain-reduction and efficiency improvements of this one.

[quotemsg=19911843,0,537231]but that one just looks like it's way out there.[/quotemsg]
I consider that a selling point.
: )

They sell models with custom top-plates, which they say are interchangeable with the standard top-plates:

https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2-graphite/
https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2-signature-series/