Best 24" Monitor Ever: Beautiful Samsung T240

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Is there a better monitor than Samsung T240? The answer is no.
-It can run the max resolution in native mode for all of the games, 1920x1200. (Forget monitors bigger then 24" - they all have to stretch the images as most games don't go over 1920x1200 yet)
-It has a beautiful picture (Compared to others you see in computer stores, it looks the best).
-It looks good (I have a 24" Mac at work - and my T240 is looks equally great at home!)

I already bought one for me, one for my parents, and my friend (well, recommended it - and he bought it).

So, my challenge to you is - find a better monitor for PC that is better then Samsung T240!
I dare you!
 
Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP (S-PVA panel)
24" NEC listed above
Apple Cinema display (IPS)
IIRC, LG has an IPS model
HP has an S-PVA


All will absolutely flatten the Samsung's TN panel. Also, most games now do support 2560x1600, if you're lucky enough to have the cash for a 30" panel. TN is nice for the price, but will not come close to matching PVA or IPS type panels for color accuracy or viewing angle.

(I personally am a happy user of a Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP)
 
Ultrasharp - Well, I can see that it's 1ms slower, and also 3x more expensive. Common, lets play fair.
24" NEC
LCD2490WUXi - Also 1ms slower. Also 3-4 times more expansive. Btw did you know T240 requires only 60W to operate?
IIRC, LG - Please provide a link.
HP has an S-PVA - Link?



 
1 ms slower?

Wow - that's grasping at straws. How about listing a fact that actually matters? 1ms response time difference is negligible, especially when all manufacturers report response time differently. Even within one manufacturer, the reported response time vs actual can vary quite a bit. My Dell 22" monitor (TN, 2ms response time) actually has a slower response time than the Ultrasharp 2408 in some situations (such as black to white).

As for the higher price, fair has nothing to do with it. You stated the Samsung is the best 24" ever. That includes all 24" monitors, at any price. Besides, I didn't know that $680 was three times as much as $400. That's some interesting math right there...

LG: http://displayblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/lg-l246wp-bn-24-lcd-monitor/
HP: I was wrong here. It's actually an S-IPS. It's the LP-2475W.
 
Ok, no need to scream.
I am not grasping at any straws just trying to see the differences. I don't know if it will make a difference or not, but I did have an 8ms monitor, and any kind of motion on it was blurry.
As for the price, true, you can include any price. But is price also not something comparable about a monitor? The 'best ever' is more geared towards a regular computer user who simply wants a good quality monitor to replace his CRT or older LCD.

The LG you provided has an 8ms response time (not saying it's bad, Again I am just comparing), but overall looks like a viable competitor, even though it doesn't "look" as pleasing as Samsung.

PS: Samsung is actually $300 (350 with taxes), and that's in CAD dollars, so in US it must be even cheaper.

 
You should really rename this post to: "Best 24" Monitor for the mainstream consumer who doesn't care about input lag, viewing angle, color accuracy, or any number of other things the Samsung T240 does poorly."

The fact that you came to a conclusion that the "Best" monitor contains a TN panel actually made me laugh out loud at work.
 
Which monitor do you use at home?

 


I don't use a good monitor at home, mostly because I don't have the money to spend on one. I'm not implying that your Samsung T240 isn't decent, but rather that is far from the "Best". Making outrageous claims helps no one. Had you rather posted on how well it performs for daily use at home for you and those you recommended it to, myself and others would not have given you any flack.
 
I guess you are right. I didn't mean to stir up the pot.

I am just confident that this monitor is great, and will server anyone looking for a good gaming and work monitor. I just hate how the market is saturated with confusing brand names and numbers (LWXERW etc..) which makes it really hard for a person to find, well, a monitor!
Also I feel that samsung is greatly underrated, and brain-wash companies like dell (which merely resells monitors - some of which are actually samsung) gets all the fame.
Take this as you will but you won't regret buying this monitor.



 

Where did you get it for $300? On Newegg, it's $400 US.

As for the other points, realistically (though many gamers will try to claim otherwise), any response time under about 12ms or so is fast enough. I've used many LCDs, and the response time is among the more useless of the statistics given for any monitor. As for the other part, I don't think a $500-$600 display is out of line for a regular computer user who wants a fairly nice computer. The monitor is one of the parts of the computer that lasts a fairly long time, so it makes sense to get a fairly good one. It will likely persist long past the time when you upgrade the rest of the computer.

It is amazing though how much difference there is in image quality. I have a Dell 22" TN panel (that I thought looked quite nice) as my secondary monitor (it's the SP2208 WFP), and my Dell Ultrasharp 2408 as my primary. The difference is not subtle. The Ultrasharp has noticeably more vivid and realistic colors, better contrast, and simply looks better. It also has an amazingly wide viewing angle, while the TN panel shifts colors and gamma noticeably even just slightly off center. You really don't know what you're missing until you are able to compare them side by side.
 
The best monitor ever must take into account price. I can build the best quality ever with $10000 to work with. But that's just stupid.
 
I think you were too proud about your new purchased monitor and without thinking through, you posted "Best 24" Monitor Ever: Beautiful Samsung T240". Then you come to saying "So, my challenge to you is - find a better monitor for PC that is better then Samsung T240!
I dare you!" without reservation.

Add the SAMSUNG XL24 along with the other posters listing. If this monitor is better than your monitor even by one spec then your T240 is not the best anymore is it?

Why won't you just admit that you made an error instead of looking to find a way out.
 
I have a T240HD, based on the same panel than T240. I got this monitor for a good prize, 325$ here in spain, and it does what is soposed to do. It has spectacular conectivity, but when it comes to performance has really lots of bad factors...

- **** viewing angle (I have it beside a dell 2407WFP, and it really Sucks)
- Poor TV quality (does not have any addon as MoviePicture Plus or DNI+)
- Color quality is very difficult to adjust when dynamic contrast enabled, panel changes color intensity due to contrast.
- Upper part of screen and edges come with poor ilumination.

On the other hand, for the prize and the great conectivity, i've decided to keep it... I rise my position when watching tv and correct the viewing angle a little bit above normal, this makes it more easy going. It feels cute beside my other monitor and logitech speakers...

It allways depend on what u are looking for, such as performance, simplicity, or design.
 
How does it rate vs an Asus VK246H?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2622&l1=10&l2=151&l3=824&l4=0

i've been looking at both ... well basicaly T240 as both (the asus and the samsung one) don't have TV capabilities (unless you have a hd tv box ... but that's another issue)

Both of them seem rather similar ... I've read the tom's hardware review for the Asus VK246H and the tn panel takes a beating for the whole thing ... but the Samsung one would take the same beating ... right?

in terms of price ... i've found them to be preety similar

so ... which should i buy ?? 😀
 
I own a T240 and I really do appreciate its great quality - not only the image quality, but the design, quality of manufacture, etc - BUT . . . let's not go crazy here! Firstly, my opinion of the product I decided to purchase, is just that, an opinion. It's subjective, and relative. When we start to argue about what's better, this Samsung, or that NEC, or that Dell, I know that we're just being silly since we're all talking about great products that we got ripped off for by their respective manufacturers. Just enjoy what you have, and leave it at that. Cheers :)
 


TN panels have the lowest response times.
That's pretty important to a gamer.
You should think about the facts before posting your own ignorant opinion.
 


But TN will beat them on response time.


Enjoy your ghosting when gaming then.
 

Actually, the 2408 (unlike the 2407) doesn't have any ghosting problems whatsoever, and in many cases, my Ultrasharp can beat my other monitor (an S2209 WFP 2ms TN panel) in response time as well. The TNs are often vastly overrated, and without an independent comparison, it's hard to tell which is really the best. Believe me though, the 2408 does not ghost while gaming (A00 revisions had trouble with input lag though, which was mostly fixed on A01 [what I have], and from what I hear, completely fixed on A02).
 
It doesn't matter what LCD you use, you can see ghosting if you look for it, personally it would have to be really bad to see it while doing anything other than staring at the screen looking at a white pointer on a black background.

 


Ignorant is going with a monitor just because it has a lower response time instead of thinking it through, gamer or not.

Let's look at the facts:

1ms = 1/1000 of a second

2ms response time = 500fps

4ms response time = 250fps

8ms response time = 125fps

I don't know ANYONE who uses a monitor in ANY display mode with a refresh rate higher than 120Hz. So, an 8ms response time would be adequate handle 120Hz. As someone who has been a gamer since video games have existed, I can say that 8ms is *more* than adequate, even for hardcore gamers. Anything beyond that is market hype meant to sell cheap 6-bit monitors.

And, as a gamer who also does OTHER things with my monitors, I would choose a monitor with 8ms response time that has TRUE 8-bit color for things like image/video editing over a 2ms TN panel that can't display any sort of color gradient to save it's life.....

Now, if you're a gamer, and all you do is gaming and you have some non-existent computer and video cards capable of playing games at 1920x1200 (or 1080) at 500fps (which would be the framerate required to demand 2ms response time), then by all means, pickup a TN panel........ But I doubt you do, so at this point, you're simply showing that you got caught by the marketing hype and bought into the whole 2ms response time as actually having value, which it doesn't.

Same thing with these 120Hz and now 240Hz HDTVs. People swear that it makes fast-motion video look crisper. I'd like to see that considering the video source itself is limited to 30/60fps (30fps in 1080, 60fps in 720). More marketing hype. Another way to charge more for the same old displays...... Fools......