Best Amd build for virtualization, video editing , gaming ?

raedov

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hello guys

friend of mine ask me what is the best PC you can build ? amd build , he wants to build a system for virtualization, video editing , gaming ?

which components is good for him ?
Cpu:
Cpu cooler: he doesn't want water cooling
MotherBoard :
Gpu:
Psu:
Ram:
best case for cooling :

Approximate Purchase Date : next month
Overclocking : no
SLI or Crossfire: not now
Budget Range : 2000$

i mean by "virtualization" he used vmware workstation alot
Any suggestions
 
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hi Jack Revenant

he consider using AMD Cpu because of AMD 8 Core and he said it is good Especially for virtualization and gaming but he doesn't know aboult how is this cpu good for video editing.
sorry for my English , it's not my native language,
 


The FX 8350 is an acceptable CPU for its price range (though not as good as the Intel Core i5-3570k), but AMD doesn't really have any high-end offerings, and what it does offer is often price-inefficient.

Your English is fine. Honestly, I tend to find it amusing when people who speak English as a second language apologize for the quality of their speech, given that many people who speak it as a first language absolutely mangle it.
 


I would tend to view the 3930k as slight overkill, though I admit that I'm not sure how intensive virtualization is.
 


i see , he used vmware workstaion to install Red Hat and learn about it , also he is making tutorials about linux sometimes and try linux distro ,, etc , he spent 3 hours per a day for linux

i know a lot of words in English also i can talk but my problem with grammer 😀
 


Grammar for foreign languages is always difficult. You're having to completely reorder sentences relative to what they would be in your native tongue.
 


He intends to game in addition to video editing and virtualization. Thus, a strong GPU is needed.
 


good tips , thank you Noob12 , i appreciate your help
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($106.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($363.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1298.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-04 04:43 EDT-0400)

Or this power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
 


first time i Leann a word was in McDonald's , i don't know anything at all , and i was very Hungary
i don't know what they call "meal size" , small size - big size ,, etc , my friend said to me just say i need big tasty cow size *_* i don't even know what is the cow means! They laughed too loud

back to the topic , which is better windows 8 pro or windows 7
 


Given that it was a McDonald's, they were probably not used to receiving such a cohertent answer. 😛

Windows 8, to my understanding, has a lighter load on the system. As a result, you'll get more performance out of the same parts. That said, the interface is said to be less than excellent.
 


Thanks, Bro
 


:)
thank you , I appreciate your taking the time to help me
my pleasure
 


Happy to help. :)
 
If you want the best help possible, you need to have your friend specify things a little more clearly:

Quick questions:

1) Is this "video editing" or "video converting/transcoding"?
*Video editing is far more demanding. The amount of RAM may be important, and some software such as Adobe Premiere can accelerate things with certain video cards.

2) Don't consider XEON CPU's unless there is a significant advantage in processing time AND the software that uses it benefits.

3) What's being done with virtualization? (can affect RAM amount etc).

Other:
Windows 8 64-bit OEM is what you want.
As for the new "Metro interface" that's easily solved with START8. I use Windows 8 and it's basically exactly like Windows 7 with Start8 but with quite a few advantages. There's no good reason to go with Windows 7 in a new build unless you have some rare compatibility issue.
 




ok i will ask hime , and come back at another time

BTW is this case good for air flow ?
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=102

thank you
 


1- "video editing" he use Adobe Premiere and somtimes sony vegas.
3- he used vmware workstaion to install Red Hat and learn about it , also he is making tutorials about linux sometimes and try linux distro ,, etc , he spent 3 hours per a day for linux
 
he is not yet decided , but He asked me to take your opinion about this :

is it compatible with each other ?

CPU: AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz
MB : ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB
CPU Cooler :Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB)
SSD : OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850M 850W
CASE : Fractal Design Define R4 White
 


The only compatibility issue I see is that the Noctua cooler listed uses VOLTAGE-controlled fans. Most new motherboards use PWM fans. The Noctua NH-D14 would work, however the CPU fans would likely be stuck at high speed at all times. (Annoyingly, the manual does not say whether Voltage, PWM or both are supported so I recommend contacting them to be certain).

Another small issue is TWO versus ONE fans. If your motherboard doesn't have a CPU1 and CPU2 connection you need to ensure the CPU_FAN slot provides enough Amperage for BOTH of the fans connected together (and connect them; adapter? not sure). The Corsair H100i works different from this.

You may also wish to look into water cooling such as the Corsair H100 or H100i and compatible cases.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNEuSRc6xt8 (Linus from NCIX; there are more at Youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyC3lZ5WFMk

(A single, quality 12cm or 14cm fan such as Noctua PWM doesn't ramp up much even with an i7-3770K under load at 4.2GHz. Pretty quiet (not with stock cooler though). This is far different with an overclocked FX-8350.

Summary:
- verify whether the motherboard supports PWM, Voltage or both for CPU fan (and case) control.
- Consider a good water-cooler for the CPU (case must be compatible with radiator/fan mount)
- don't forget a FRONT FAN for your case if not included (variable such as 300 to 1000RPM, or low, single-speed such as 500 or 800RPM. Noctua's fans can be quieter but expensive.)
 


Motherboard and memory are expensive, i would pick cheaper ones. But i guess the aesthetics is important for him...
Also nice looking ram is this: it also has led's...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148655&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-20-148-655-_-Homepage

Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703038
Or platinum,but not modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182084

750w will be enough for crossfire.


 


1. There's a lot of info you can Google about Adobe Premiere but here are some highlights:
a) AMD is working with Adobe for better GPGPU support, but there's no confirmation on the specifics. I'm assuming an UPCOMING version of Premiere will add some OPENCL support but what features aren't certain.

b) Workstation cards tend to be natively supported (there's a list of Quadro etc), however some other cards like the GTX600 series work with a hack.

c) Current version of Adobe Premiere appear not to benefit much beyond a GTX660 (not even Workstation cards).

d) RAM-> 32GB for video editing seems to be the UPPER amount most people would need. (Example, 4x 8GB G. Skill DDR3 1600MHz).

3. VMWARE:
Not my area of expertise, but most modern CPU's and Motherboards support this? Confirm this, but in terms of PERFORMANCE for VMWARE and Linux it's a non-issue as whatever you get for gaming and video editing is overkill for VMWARE. (Unless you have MULTIPLE machines running simultaneously whilst also using video editing, but I still recommend 32GB regardless).

SUMMARY:
- Google and Wikipedia are your friends.
- investigate the "hacked" GPU's for Adobe Premiere, and what/when the HD7000 series cards will be supported
 
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