Best Bang for the buck

Lucrin

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Alright I am lookin to upgrade my computer around x-mas time and so I have begun the research process into new parts. This is aimed towards a nice gaming PC but isn't absolutely high end (money is always tight nowadays). So I am wondering what everyones opinion is as far as what the best CPU per dollar you spend on it. I am open to both AMD and Intel recommendations and by all means argue for and against different models. Currently I am leaning towards an AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz priced at $165 from newegg. Thanks for the input :)
 

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best bang for the buck? If you calculate in over clocking.... core i7 920 HANDS DOWN.

You can air over clock them on stock fan to at least 3.6 and its perfect

 

Upendra09

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Don't listen to the guy above me he is an intel fanboy who doesn't know a thing about processors

anyway if you can afford it get the 965 BE, better for overclocking, but the 955 will give you the same results, it's just the 955 is a bit less flexible in overclocking
 

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The 965 Be is not better for overclocking. The 995 is more flexibile in overclocking. It starts at a lower clock and reaches the same max overclock. (excluding the c3 stepping 125w 965. The other c3 stepping phenoms have shipped today.)

I would say the best CPU per dollar is the athlon II 620. There is also the athlon II x3s. The Phenom II x3's and x4s. Are all very very very good for the dollar. Especially in a gaming system.

I would stay away from an Intel system for your new machine. Gaming machine with a tight budget=AMD.
 

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For a tight money gaming system I would pick either an X4 620 or an X3 720 using a cheaper AMD785 motherboard with DDR2 and put as much money as you can into a Radeon 5xxx gaming video card. It's the Radeon that will give you gaming performance and the AMD cpus will not become a bottleneck for most games.
If you want a more balanced system, then the i5 Intel with a lesser video card starts to make more sense.
 

Lucrin

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I looked at the Phenom II 965 at first but after some research I saw it is a really bad idea and in a nut shell this is why:

"AMD Phenom II 965: Badly overpriced compared to the Core i5 750 and Phenom II 955. Identical silicon to the 955 does not approach justifying the price premium. That the 955 has an unlocked multiplier that can be upped everytime to make performance identical makes this even more outrageous." - Taken from another insightful post on these forums :)

I decided that the Core i7's are out of my price range. The core i5 is still a possibility but for the moment from my readings I am still leaning towards the phenom II 955. After looking at the Athlon II X4 620 I decided it is probably the best deal dollar for dollar but I am looking for something a bit better and it doesn't stack up to the 955 in benchmarks (even without including the great overclock potential of the 955).

Thanks for the input everyone it has been good to get some other feedback, keep it comin :)
 

welshmousepk

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id also back the 955.

if money is tight though, you can always do what i did. pick up a phenom II 550 (dual core version of the 955) and pout the saved cash toward a better video card.
since the GPU has more of an impact on gaming performance, this is a really good way of doing it. most games only use 2 cores rtight now anyway, so you dont even loose that much performance.

if you feel lucky you can even try unlocking a 550 to a quad (as i did) and basically get a 955 for the price of a 550.

if you have the cash for it though, the if 750 is probably the best processor out there. amazing performance for its price.
but if you need something cheaper, AMD is surely the way to go.
 
Sub $500 AR quad box gamer for up to 1680 x 1050 4u?
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However, Crysis in that chart is GPU bottle necked.


Here is FarCry2 from the same web page as your link. As you can see, the GPU is more sufficient, so the CPU difference can be seen...the difference between the Athlon and Phenom is minor.

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http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=17
 


Well not quite, that was the case with the old 140w x4 965 :

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103692&cm_re=x4_965-_-19-103-692-_-Product

the new C3 x4 965 is about 10 dollars more than the one above but it has it's advantages, first off it will overclock to 4.2/4.3Ghz on Air at tolerable temps (140w 965 barely does 4Ghz), it aslo runs about 3/4c cooler since it is a 125w CPU vs. the old 140w.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=x4_965-_-19-103-727-_-Product

of course the x4 955 is the obvious choice IF you don't have the extra 30 bucks, IMO the C3 965 is worth every penny, but that's just me :D

You should be looking at the x4 620 like a few here suggested (best budget quad) and save yourself some cash for a nice GPU... I have seen the 620 do 3.650Ghz on Air and for 100.00$ it's a steal....

At 3.2Ghz the 620 is 6/7% slower than the 955 in games, just FYI ;)
 

Upendra09

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995?
 

Lucrin

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I meant 955 not 995 :p

Also yes I picked the 955 over the 965 because I read that they are the exact same processor and the 955 can be overclocked up to the same level as the 965 making it not worth the extra $30. Just as a note to anyone posting in the future, lets say hypothetically that I already have a good video card so I am not looking to save money for it. I am looking to spend $5-600 for a processor, mobo, memory, and $150 of it is going towards my new case. Thanks again everyone :)
 

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It really depends, if gaming is yu main thing then a 720 be a good 785g mobo and a 5850 or 5870 would pretty much handle everything you want and give you not only a great upgrade path (the six core thuban comes out on am3) but also overclocking headroom, you could also go for the athlon ll x4 620 for that extra core and better multi tasking of course the 720 be is easier to overclock but the 620 has an extra core that helps it a bit and costs a little less neither card will be bottleneck for your graphics card
 

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Since the Athlon II X4 620 and the Phenom II X2 550BE are nearly identical prices on newegg, the AII X4 would be guaranteed 4 cores and no L3, while the PII X2 would be guaranteed L3 and possibly 4 cores unlocked with the right motherboard. I'm looking for a similar super cheap build and right now I'm leaning toward the PII X2 550BE and hope to unlock all 4 cores. nea