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Kemmster

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Ok if you've seen my post over in the motherboard section you'll already know that I'm putting together a new system that has an AMD Athlon 3200 XP+ in it. What I would like to know is; will the cpu fan shipped with the CPU cut it cooling wise or should I be looking for something meatier?

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Coyote

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It should, of course, be perfectly fine if your going to run it at stock speeds (i.e., no overclocking). Prolly even OK for mild OC'ing. If you plan on a more serious OC, you may want to check the Heatsink, cooler section of the forum that's listed down with the other OC'ing issues. There you will find info on what's effective, quiet etc.

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Actually, if you are buying a 3200+ XP you are not going to get much overclock out of it so the stock cooling should be just fine. As for watercooling, he was not kidding. Water cooling and phase change systems are the hot ways for people to overclock their systems very high. For watercooling check out sites like <A HREF="http:// www.dangerden.com " target="_new">http:// www.dangerden.com </A> or <A HREF="http:// www.frozencpu.com " target="_new">http:// www.frozencpu.com </A>.
 

scottchen

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Why is watercooling a joke? It's much more effective than the classic hsf. As for phase change, most of us can't afford a prometeia with a price tag at over 700US. However watercooling, for a nice DIY kit, could be under 200US.

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I didn't know cpu's could use watercooling with a radiater, kinda funny too.

Only thought gas/diesel engines used water cooling.
 

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Because most modern amd mobos shut down if you overheat the retail version is ok;but still inferior,by using the retail HSF you'll be shortening the life of your cpu and might have problems with stability if you use the pc a lot and its very hot where you live.The thermalright sp-97 is the best hsf bar none;but is very expensive and has no fan($64 at newegg;plus another $12-$18 for a decent fan or buy a cheap hsf like a spleeze for around $15 which will out perform the retail one <A HREF="http://www.thermalright.com/product_default.htm" target="_new">http://www.thermalright.com/product_default.htm</A> check out your mobo combatiblity here.
 

Carnecerro

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Snaggle I don't disagree with your recommendation of Thermalright or that it is better than the retail heatsink. However to see that AMD would knowingly sell a product that would shorten the lifespan of a CPU and would cause unstability I think is false. If you are not overclocking than I think a retail heatsink is fine. Especially the copper centered ones that come with the 2800+ and above XP's. My friend has 5 months of constant uptime on his 3000+ box with no overheats or shutdowns. Retail heatsink on there.
 

Snaggle

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Thanks for disagreeing;but I did say if "very hot" and your friend has been using his in fall and winter and likely in a place without ambient temperatures around 120 degrees in winter sometimes.The retail version does seem to work ok;but I think anyone using a 3200xp is likely buying it because its cheaper than the 64s and plans on keeping it as long as possible or they would be buying a 3000xp or 2800xp.
 

Snaggle

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BTW use a mica cpu shim reasons explained at <A HREF="http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/cpu_shims/pctoys_shim/index.htm" target="_new">http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/cpu_shims/pctoys_shim/index.htm</A> buy one at <A HREF="http://www.casecooler.com/nonconshim.html" target="_new">http://www.casecooler.com/nonconshim.html</A> or anywhere just use mica not copper.