best cpu cooling solution

[Jonatron5]

Pretty straightforward question. I heard that one of the biggest limiting factors in overclocking is heat production. And seeing as how a coolers cheaper than a cpu and will last longer to boot. I was wondering wich I should go with?

Air or liquid. Pros or cons. Heres two im looking at.

I have an fx6350


Cooler Master Seidon 120V – Compact All-In-One CPU Liquid Water Cooling System with 120mm Radiator and Fano

Coler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120 mm PWM Fan

 

[Karl_oh]

Probably a closed loop cooler like a H80i would do fine for overclocking (Maybe a bit over the top)

 

[Jonatron5]

Rosewill RCX-Z1 Long life ball bearing for over 45,000/hrs CPU Cooler

Third option

 

[uplink-svk]

Jonatron5 - that Seidon is crap, CM Hyper 212 Evo is the most solid option listed. Though, if You want some real OC power, go get Noctua NH-D14, ThermalRight SilverArrow, beQuiet! DarkRock 3 Pro, or Phanteks PH-TC14PE. I've got some clients, who managed to crank up the 6350 on NH-D14 up to 4,6x GHz.

 

[Jonatron5]

Ok I saw the noctua your talking about and it looks quite impressive. You would reccomend that over the other options I've got?

Its quite an expensive cooler. I honestly dont plan on changing cpus till this summer at the earliest so it could definlye be worth the investment.and its the right size to fit both intel and amd boards.

My one hesitation is it says am3+ (with backplate) what does that mean?

Also physically will it fit onto my motherboard? I have no idea about the dimensions. I've got a full tower so im not worried about the case.

IGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

 

[uplink-svk]

Jonatron5 - motherboard is not an issue, ram modules [sticks] are. Do You have low-profile ram-modules, mid-profile, or high-profile? Or simply post here Your ram modules.

 

[Jonatron5]

Ill be honest I have absolutely no idea I pulled this ram out of my old hp. Unless anyone off the top of there head knows what sort of ram was used with an amd phenom vII.

I will be back with my computer this sunday evening and give you a definite answer

 

[Jonatron5]

Also that raises another good point. Is there any significant boost in performance of overclocking ram? I mean im not a pc expert but my initial assumption is it would make loading screens quicker not really any fps boost.

 

[Jonatron5]

For that matter would I get any boost out of upgrading my ram?

 

[uplink-svk]

Jonatron5 - did You forget to attach a picture of Your HP RAM? I so, please reattach it [on some pic hosting]. There is absolutely no boost in overclocking ram, well, actually yes, 1-2 fps in games, when You go extreme, but that's kind of not worth it. You're just enshortening life span of the ram module, when You're ocing it.

And the more ram, the faster the system, games don't lag, computer is more responsive, since many processes can be pre-cached in ram, and don't need to be sucked up from hdd/ssd all the time.

 

[Jonatron5]

Ok im gonna be back at my pc this evening ill include a ram picture. So please bare with me. Thanks for all the help.

I have 8gb ram so im good

Just a quick recap if it will fit then I want the noctua cooler?

 

[uplink-svk]

Noctua all the way, she's ugly duckling, but hell, she performs the best.

 

[Jonatron5]

OK I got prime 95 core temp and ive previously posted some numbers what should I start on and how high should I take it? also I had some question about wherether or not I could fit the noctua in my board. here's some pics

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/deal4131/media/20141207_204546_zpsnuvzrv7y.jpg.html?o=3

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/deal4131/media/20141207_204543_zpscmm0jqvx.jpg.html?o=2

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/deal4131/media/20141207_204534_zpspl6obyre.jpg.html?o=0

 

[Jonatron5]

ok finally got back to my pc. heres what I got in my bios.

buljk clock control 200 MHz
cpu north bridge 2200 MHz
cpu clock ratio 19.5
cpu frenquncy 3.9

memory multiplyer 6.6

 

[uplink-svk]

You have low-profile rams so yes, she will fit like a charm.

 

[Jonatron5]

You have low-profile rams so yes, she will fit like a charm.

thanks a ton. HOw do you deiscern that from what I sent lols? Im gonna order it since its on sale. it says it needs a back plate to fit the am3+ board should that come with it or no?

 

[uplink-svk]

It has a SecuFirm kit, but You need genuine backplate from Your motherboard, which is already there if I recall correctly. And simple, You don't have any coolers on Your memory modules, so they're low profile.

Pattern of low and medium profile:

Pattern of high profile modules:

Anyway, NH-D14 can take up to most of the high profile modules:

 

[Jonatron5]

NZXT PHAN-001WT

Gigabyte 990fx ud3 am3+

k thanks everyone. Two last questions before I hit that purchase button (becuase im obsessive and cod I know lol)

Will the cooler fit this case with this motherboard?

And ive heard something about a backplate, do I need to buy that seperalty ?

 

[uplink-svk]

Jonatron5 -

Size Full Tower
Model Number PHAN-001WT White
PHAN-001BK Black
PHAN-001RD Red
PHAN-002OR Orange Stripes
PHAN-003RD White with Red Stripes
PHAN-002GR Black with Green Stripes
PHAN-003PK Pink with Black Stripes
Drive Bays 5 EXTERNAL 5.25" DRIVE BAYS
7 INTERNAL 3.5"/2.5" Slots
Screwless Rail Design
Cooling System FRONT, 1 X 140mm
REAR, 1 X 120mm (included)
SIDE, 2 x 120mm, 1 x 200/230 (2 x 120mm included)
TOP, 2 X 200mm (1 x LED 200mm included)
Filters Top dual 200mm filters (Included)
Side (Included)
Radiator Support Top 2 x 120mm
Clearance CPU Cooler 170mm
VGA card 350mm
Cable Management 23mm

that should answer Your question.

Source: http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/34-phantom.html