[SOLVED] Best cpu for gaming and multitasking and recording

[Lightningfan]

I would like to know what CPU is the best for gaming multitasking and recording at the same time

 

[RodroX]

Is a waste of money to go over 3600 MHz, theres no real benefict for gaming or for no home use task. And you should look at the motherboard oficial sites for the supported memory. For example: https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...VL_3rd_Gen_AMD_Ryzen_Processors_X570_0722.pdf

Once again, not knowing the resolution and games you want to play is imposible to suggest a card. And no one on earth will be able to guarantee a GPU will deliver 100+ FPS on all the games you wan try. I can only give you an advice of where to start looking, thats all.

 

[Lightningfan]

Is a waste of money to go over 3600 MHz, theres no real benefict for gaming or for no home use task. And you should look at the motherboard oficial sites for the supported memory. For example: https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...VL_3rd_Gen_AMD_Ryzen_Processors_X570_0722.pdf

Once again, not knowing the resolution and games you want to play is imposible to suggest a card. And no one on earth will be able to guarantee a GPU will deliver 100+ FPS on all the games you wan try. I can only give you an advice of where to start looking, thats all.

the only games i play are fortnite call of duty and csgo

 

[Phaaze88]

-Ryzen 3600/3600X
-Msi B450 MAX motherboard
-2x 8GBs 3200-3600mhz(whichever you get a better deal on) memory
Done.

Or the money is no object option:
-9900K
-360mm AIO
-Z390 mobo
-2x 8GBs 3200mhz, or however much you feel comfortable spending here

 

[Lightningfan]

-Ryzen 3600/3600X
-Msi B450 MAX motherboard
-2x 8GBs 3200-3600mhz(whichever you get a better deal on) memory
Done.

Or the money is no object option:
-9900K
-360mm AIO
-Z390 mobo
-2x 8GBs 3200mhz, or however much you feel comfortable spending here

im going with the ryzen 7 3700x cpu

 

[Phaaze88]

wdym for

EDITED

What does the 3700X offer that the 3600/X doesn't? What, the extra 2 cores and 4 threads?
Geez, only a few games started hitting 8 threads - it doesn't progress THAT fast.

3700X is one of Ryzen 3000's worst cpu offerings. It tries to be a middleman, but fails HARD. It's not worth the price premium.
-Gaming? 3700X is less than 5% faster than 3600, and 3600X actually matches it. Both are significantly cheaper. Get one of the other 2 and either save your money, or put it towards a better cooler, or additional storage.

-Multitasking? Some people are too quick to dismiss the 3600/X the MOMENT somebody mentions 'multitasking, streaming, editing, recording', etc...
The 3600/X can do all that just fine.
You can game on something like COD: MW with 8 threads and 4 left over for streaming or recording - hell, the gpu has these features already! The cpu doesn't have to do everything - Check out Radeon ReLive.
20+ tabs of Google Chrome, Windows, Ryzen Master, Discord, etc... that's more RAM heavy than actually being thread bound. 16GBs is fine - don't wait too long for 32GB though, pricing's going back up.

What gaming + editing rig is going to use more than 12 threads at a time on a regular basis? The gpu can share some of that work.
Someone who actually needs those 4 extra threads from the 3700X isn't prioritizing gaming. Plus they'd be better served with a 3900X anyways.

TL;DR; 3700X is overpriced, and not all that useful really.

 

[Lightningfan]

For?

wdym for

 

[RodroX]

I agree with Phaaze88 both Ryzen 5 3600 and 3600X are more than enough for gaming.

My Ryzen 5 3600 is paired with an RTX 2070 and it runs every game I tried without an issue. Heck it runs every game I tried without issues and having the turbo boost function disable in BIOS. I play at 1080p/1440p with everything on ultra and 60Hz.

As for those games Im guessing you want those extra high avg FPS so I would first check the reviews and tests on youtube on each specific game. There are some really good reviewers out there, I suggest you the Teach Deals channel for really detailed tests:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoawCT5CA9k

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXv3Zwd16hk

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVl9kOde89g

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFv7rRYcEf8

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EfcoM4oFoQ

 

[Lightningfan]

EDITED

What does the 3700X offer that the 3600/X doesn't? What, the extra 2 cores and 4 threads?
Geez, only a few games started hitting 8 threads - it doesn't progress THAT fast.

3700X is one of Ryzen 3000's worst cpu offerings. It tries to be a middleman, but fails HARD. It's not worth the price premium.
-Gaming? 3700X is less than 5% faster than 3600, and 3600X actually matches it. Both are significantly cheaper. Get one of the other 2 and either save your money, or put it towards a better cooler, or additional storage.

-Multitasking? Some people are too quick to dismiss the 3600/X the MOMENT somebody mentions 'multitasking, streaming, editing, recording', etc...
The 3600/X can do all that just fine.
You can game on something like COD: MW with 8 threads and 4 left over for streaming or recording - hell, the gpu has these features already! The cpu doesn't have to do everything - Check out Radeon ReLive.
20+ tabs of Google Chrome, Windows, Ryzen Master, Discord, etc... that's more RAM heavy than actually being thread bound. 16GBs is fine - don't wait too long for 32GB though, pricing's going back up.

What gaming + editing rig is going to use more than 12 threads at a time on a regular basis? The gpu can share some of that work.
Someone who actually needs those 4 extra threads from the 3700X isn't prioritizing gaming. Plus they'd be better served with a 3900X anyways.

TL;DR; 3700X is overpriced, and not all that useful really.

so your saying that i should just get the 3600/x and be just fine and not have to update my mobo bios but still be able to game at 144Hz smoothly while having obs open and chrome with my 16gb of ddr4-3000

 

[Phaaze88]

so your saying that i should just get the 3600/x and be just fine...

Yes.

and not have to update my mobo bios

Wut.
It doesn't matter which Ryzen 3000 cpu, but if the motherboard you choose to go with doesn't have the needed bios update out of the box, then it won't work.
Also, you should keep up with bios updates from time to time, as they'll contain bug fixes, compatibility and little performance improvements.

still be able to game at 144Hz smoothly while having obs open and chrome with my 16gb of ddr4-3000

-Should you manage to run - not artificially through something like Ashes of the Singularity - your game + stream sessions to use more than 12 threads REGULARLY...
-You have the option to stream or record with the gpu as well - split the load depending on which is being is being used more.
-This channel has some pretty useful tips on using OBS. You may find ways to reduce the performance impact while using it.
-Having a bunch of other programs open - Chrome, Ryzen Master, Steam(or whatever game launchers you use), etc., is going to be more memory bound than using actual threads.
I have a 7820X and 32GBs of ram: with 18 tabs of Firefox - 1 YT video playing - open right now, I'm only using 2GBs of memory(according to Task Manager), and Intel XTU says only 2 threads are even active... pretty much idling.

 

[Flynapkes]

This is what I am going to build my choices so far.

Comments, suggestions, Thoughts....
Case: Corsair Icue 465X RGB mid tower ATX
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus WiFi
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X.
Cooler: Corsair H100i
SSD: Sabrient 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen 4
Memory: G.Skill 32GB DDR4 Trident Z Royal 3200Mhz
GPU: XFX 5700.
PSU: Corsair RMX Series RM850x

 

[GarrettL]

This is what I am going to build my choices so far.

Comments, suggestions, Thoughts....
Case: Corsair Icue 465X RGB mid tower ATX
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus WiFi
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X.
Cooler: Corsair H100i
SSD: Sabrient 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen 4
Memory: G.Skill 32GB DDR4 Trident Z Royal 3200Mhz
GPU: XFX 5700.
PSU: Corsair RMX Series RM850x

That's a solid build.

 

[Lightningfan]

That's a solid build.

what are your ram speeds

 

[Phaaze88]

Comments, suggestions, Thoughts....

Please don't hijack another user's thread. That said...

Case: Corsair Icue 465X RGB mid tower ATX

It's OK.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-icue-465x-rgb-mid-tower-atx-smart-case,6346.html

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-4AK8FyzM

Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus WiFi

One of the best budget X570 motherboards.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X.

A game + stream cpu? Overpriced for what it offers.

Cooler: Corsair H100i

A waste of money for pretty much any Ryzen 3000 below the 3900X, and not even that really. Ryzen 3000 is very power efficient. The power draw of these cpus makes Intel's Inferno Lakes a real joke.
Get something like a Dark Rock 4 or NH-D15S. Cheaper, and cools just as good.

SSD: Sabrient 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen 4

I hope you transfer large files on a regular basis to even take advantage of the speed advantage...

Memory: G.Skill 32GB DDR4 Trident Z Royal 3200Mhz

GPU: XFX 5700.

All pretty bad, cooling-wise, save for the improved XFX Thicc 3 RX 5700XT.

PSU: Corsair RMX Series RM850x

Well, you can't do multi-gpu setups with an RX 5700, and probably only see like 450w max... but I'd rather see someone with an overkill psu than some cheap model.
Knock it down to RM650X and maybe save a few bucks.

UGH, damn - all these partial quotes have become a habit of mine now...
TL;DR: It's OK overall, but you're spending alot more money than you really need to...

 

[Lightningfan]

Please don't hijack another user's thread. That said...


It's OK.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-icue-465x-rgb-mid-tower-atx-smart-case,6346.html

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-4AK8FyzM



One of the best budget X570 motherboards.


A game + stream cpu? Overpriced for what it offers.


A waste of money for pretty much any Ryzen 3000 below the 3900X, and not even that really. Ryzen 3000 is very power efficient. The power draw of these cpus makes Intel's Inferno Lakes a real joke.
Get something like a Dark Rock 4 or NH-D15S. Cheaper, and cools just as good.


I hope you transfer large files on a regular basis to even take advantage of the speed advantage...





All pretty bad, cooling-wise, save for the improved XFX Thicc 3 RX 5700XT.


Well, you can't do multi-gpu setups with an RX 5700, and probably only see like 450w max... but I'd rather see someone with an overkill psu than some cheap model.
Knock it down to RM650X and maybe save a few bucks.

UGH, damn - all these partial quotes have become a habit of mine now...
TL;DR: It's OK overall, but you're spending alot more money than you really need to...

so you said the corsair H100i isnt worth it same with the ssd so then what aio and ssd would you recommened then

 

[Phaaze88]

so you said the corsair H100i isnt worth it same with the ssd so then what aio and ssd would you recommened then

An AIO really isn't worth using on the majority of the Ryzen 3000 processors, save for the 3950X.
It's pretty friggin' bananas when a 16 core/32 thread cpu matches an 8 core/16 thread 9900K, even when overclocked:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3sNUFjV7p4

Get a 3600X, slap one of the coolers I mentioned on it - or get the even cheaper Arctic Freezer 34 Duo. Far cheaper; you're not having to replace a 100USD+ AIO every 3-5 years.

For just gaming + streaming, etc., a SATA 3 SSD is plenty. An M.2 doesn't show it's real muscle until you're X-ferring files between other SSDs.
X-fers between the SSD and an HDD? Nope, performance is restriced by the HDDs speeds.
Uploads and downloads to and from the SSD? Performance depends on your ISP's speeds.
Intel's 660P is frequently at a good price, compared to other SATA 3s, even though it's an M.2. That's one of the few exceptions.

 

[Lightningfan]

An AIO really isn't worth using on the majority of the Ryzen 3000 processors, save for the 3950X.
It's pretty friggin' bananas when a 16 core/32 thread cpu matches an 8 core/16 thread 9900K, even when overclocked:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3sNUFjV7p4

Get a 3600X, slap one of the coolers I mentioned on it - or get the even cheaper Arctic Freezer 34 Duo. Far cheaper; you're not having to replace a 100USD+ AIO every 3-5 years.

For just gaming + streaming, etc., a SATA 3 SSD is plenty. An M.2 doesn't show it's real muscle until you're X-ferring files between other SSDs.
X-fers between the SSD and an HDD? Nope, performance is restriced by the HDDs speeds.
Uploads and downloads to and from the SSD? Performance depends on your ISP's speeds.
Intel's 660P is frequently at a good price, compared to other SATA 3s, even though it's an M.2. That's one of the few exceptions.

and how good is the arctic freezer 34 duo and yes i know that the read and write speeds for an ssd depends on my isp speeds

 

[Phaaze88]

and how good is the arctic freezer 34 duo

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cooler,6352.html

and yes i know that the read and write speeds for an ssd depends on my isp speeds

The other person may not have known though.
On a Gen 4 NVMe SSD like that Sabrient 1TB Rocket, if the ISP's provided speeds and other storage devices - if any - aren't up to par, it won't perform any better than a more affordable SATA 3 SSD.

 

[Lightningfan]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cooler,6352.html


The other person may not have known though.
On a Gen 4 NVMe SSD like that Sabrient 1TB Rocket, if the ISP's provided speeds and other storage devices - if any - aren't up to par, it won't perform any better than a more affordable SATA 3 SSD.

give me another good aio cooler that has rgb has im going to be building an all rgb build

 

[Phaaze88]

Gotta have the RGB, huh?
Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M

Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM

 

[Lightningfan]

Gotta have the RGB, huh?
Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M

Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM

no i dont have to i just would like it for the build

 

[Phaaze88]

Either of the above would be fine.

 

[Lightningfan]

Either of the above would be fine.

ik i already have the corsair H100i selected

 

[Lightningfan]

Either of the above would be fine.

Would I have bottlenecks with the ryzen 5 3600x and the Radeon RX 580 8gb

 

[Phaaze88]

Would I have bottlenecks with the ryzen 5 3600x and the Radeon RX 580 8gb

No.

 

[Lightningfan]

No.

So I won't have any bottlenecks between the two so no underperformance nothing