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What is the best CPU to use with a 6800 ultra?
Right now I have a P4C800 deluxe with a 2.4C
Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system.
Was going to use the new socket 939 but thats not in
my budget. If I stay with Intel will the 2.4C not be a bottle neck?
I guess my question should be is whats the slowest CPU
I can use and not have the CPU be the bottle neck.


Jim M
 
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" Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system. Was going to use the
new socket 939 but thats not in my budget. "


What are we supposed to gather from the statement *Socket 939 isn't in my
budget* when you are asking to build a system around a 68000 Ultra? Do you
already have a 6800 Ultra, or is that not in your budget either?

You need to state your current system spec, and the amount of cash you have
for this supposed upgrade. People can then advise on what you can use from
your current system, what you can sell some of it for, and what you can buy
for your specific budget and needs.
 
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"Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
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> "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com> wrote in message
> news:xOmdnQAg3t51tlvdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
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> " Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system. Was going to use the
> new socket 939 but thats not in my budget. "
>
>
> What are we supposed to gather from the statement *Socket 939 isn't in my
> budget* when you are asking to build a system around a 68000 Ultra? Do
you
> already have a 6800 Ultra, or is that not in your budget either?
>
> You need to state your current system spec, and the amount of cash you
have
> for this supposed upgrade. People can then advise on what you can use
from
> your current system, what you can sell some of it for, and what you can
buy
> for your specific budget and needs.
>
>
>
>

I said I had a P4C800 Deluxe mother board with a 2.4C CPU.
No I don't have a 6800 ultra yet. Have about $1000 dollars to
spend. The cheapest 939 pin CPU is $500 plus cost of MB
doesn't leave enough for the 6800 ultra.
Probably should have not mentioned budget in my original post.
Really just want to know what is the best CPU to match with
the 6800 ultra regardless of budget. I suspect that any CPU I can
afford will be a bottle neck.

Jim M
 
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:13:14 -0600, "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com>
wrote:

>What is the best CPU to use with a 6800 ultra?
>Right now I have a P4C800 deluxe with a 2.4C
>Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system.
>Was going to use the new socket 939 but thats not in
>my budget. If I stay with Intel will the 2.4C not be a bottle neck?
>I guess my question should be is whats the slowest CPU
>I can use and not have the CPU be the bottle neck.
>

A 10GHz Prescott should adequately ensure that any CPU slowdown
will be quite invisible to the 6800Ultra on any current DirectX9
titles.

John Lewis


>
>Jim M
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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:13:14 -0600, "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >What is the best CPU to use with a 6800 ultra?
> >Right now I have a P4C800 deluxe with a 2.4C
> >Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system.
> >Was going to use the new socket 939 but thats not in
> >my budget. If I stay with Intel will the 2.4C not be a bottle neck?
> >I guess my question should be is whats the slowest CPU
> >I can use and not have the CPU be the bottle neck.
> >
>
> A 10GHz Prescott should adequately ensure that any CPU slowdown
> will be quite invisible to the 6800Ultra on any current DirectX9
> titles.
>
> John Lewis
>
>

Thanks, that's what I suspected. Probably going to go with the
Athlon64 2800+ with the Asus K8N-E deluxe.

Jim M
 
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"JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com> wrote in
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>"Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
>news:2imr34Fp2h38U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xOmdnQAg3t51tlvdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>>
>> " Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system. Was going to use
>> the new socket 939 but thats not in my budget. "
>>
>>
>> What are we supposed to gather from the statement *Socket 939 isn't in
>> my budget* when you are asking to build a system around a 68000 Ultra?
>> Do
>you
>> already have a 6800 Ultra, or is that not in your budget either?
>>
>> You need to state your current system spec, and the amount of cash you
>have
>> for this supposed upgrade. People can then advise on what you can use
>from
>> your current system, what you can sell some of it for, and what you
>> can
>buy
>> for your specific budget and needs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I said I had a P4C800 Deluxe mother board with a 2.4C CPU.
>No I don't have a 6800 ultra yet. Have about $1000 dollars to
>spend. The cheapest 939 pin CPU is $500 plus cost of MB
>doesn't leave enough for the 6800 ultra.
>Probably should have not mentioned budget in my original post.
>Really just want to know what is the best CPU to match with
>the 6800 ultra regardless of budget. I suspect that any CPU I can
>afford will be a bottle neck.
>
>Jim M
>
>

As FAST as possible! Basicly, the top cards of today are much faster then
the CPU's can supply anyway. Thus the CPU is ALWAYS the bottleneck with the
current top cards....
 
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"JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com> schreef in bericht
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> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:40c64bf7.898443@news.verizon.net...
> > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:13:14 -0600, "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >What is the best CPU to use with a 6800 ultra?
> > >Right now I have a P4C800 deluxe with a 2.4C
> > >Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system.
> > >Was going to use the new socket 939 but thats not in
> > >my budget. If I stay with Intel will the 2.4C not be a bottle neck?
> > >I guess my question should be is whats the slowest CPU
> > >I can use and not have the CPU be the bottle neck.
> > >
> >
> > A 10GHz Prescott should adequately ensure that any CPU slowdown
> > will be quite invisible to the 6800Ultra on any current DirectX9
> > titles.
> >
> > John Lewis
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, that's what I suspected. Probably going to go with the
> Athlon64 2800+ with the Asus K8N-E deluxe.
>
> Jim M
>
What good would that do? 2.4 to 2.8, mm.
I got a 2.6, and what i am gonna do is get a GT, which is a little less
demanding. And on another note, there are games coming that will give the
gpu more to do than they will give the cpu to do. Doom3, FarCry etc. Those
games are not that cpu limited, it is UT2004 etc that is cpu limited,
instead of 150 they could do with a super cpu they get 90. Big deal....not.
 
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interconnect wrote:

> Example facts on PCIX
>
> http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=443&catid=2
>
> Good read.
>
>
>
> RANT:
>
> STOP FEEDING THESE GREEDY COMPANIES.
>
> NEW CAR EVERY 6 MONTHS, GO AWAY, WE ARE NOT JAPANESE!
>
> The planet can not handle these resource hungry companies.
>
> Make it work once, dont change it, every day!
>
> $0.02

Interesting. On the one hand you rant about "feeding these greedy
companies" while on the other you advocate waiting for PCI Express, whose
major function is to induce users to buy more stuff.

The simple fact is that cars are a mature technology, computers are not, and
until the technology matures products are going to become outdated quickly.
A ten year old car, well maintained, is not much different in capabilities
from a brand new one. That is not true for computers.

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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
 
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>"interconnect" <inter_connect@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>Why pay money on AGPx8 when
>
>PCI EXPRESS is the next big thing?
>
>Why not just wait a while for 6800 PCI EXPRESS
>

I don't think PCI express will give me any advantage right now.
But it looks like I'll have to wait anyway since I can't find any
6800 cards to buy of any type or speed.
The only advantage I can see getting PCI express is not having to
upgrade for a while. But going to a socket 754 defeats that.
PCI express will be there when I get the upgrade bug again.

Jim
 
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"interconnect" <inter_connect@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:40c6e515$0$4577$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Example facts on PCIX
> http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=443&catid=2
> Good read.

>RANT:
>STOP FEEDING THESE GREEDY COMPANIES.

No! FEED THE GREEDY COMPANIES! FEED THE GREEDY COMPANIES! Hmmm... an nVidia 6800 ULTRA RIGHT card powered by
my RESOURCE HUNGRY PSU would look bloody marvellous fitted to my ASUS GREEDY CORP motherboard. I will also
do my part in helping THE EVIL VOLE CONTINUE TO CRUSH ALL INNOVATION AND BOLSTER ITS FASCIST PIG STRANGLEHOLD
ON ALL MANKIND by purchasing Longhorn when it's finished.

>NEW CAR EVERY 6 MONTHS, GO AWAY, WE ARE NOT JAPANESE!

How do you know?

>The planet can not handle these resource hungry companies.
>Make it work once, dont change it, every day!
>$0.02

KILL THE TREE SHAGGERS! KILL THE TREE SHAGGERS!

Tony.
 
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:13:14 -0600, "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com>
wrote:

>What is the best CPU to use with a 6800 ultra?
>Right now I have a P4C800 deluxe with a 2.4C
>Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system.
>Was going to use the new socket 939 but thats not in
>my budget. If I stay with Intel will the 2.4C not be a bottle neck?
>I guess my question should be is whats the slowest CPU
>I can use and not have the CPU be the bottle neck.

The NEW cards are faster then any of the 32bit CPUs.

AMD Socket 754 will be fine, remember - even the $200 AMD 64 3000
keeps up with the $1000 P4-EE CPU.

But yes... even the 3.2Ghz regular P4 is the bottleneck ;)

Also, most AMD mobos for Socket 754 will support upto an AMD 64 4000.

The P4s comming out in a few months will not be compatible with
current marker mobos.


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- 15yr old boy in Washington was disciplined for drawing such images.
- White House blows cover of an undercover agent because her husband said there were no WMD (before the USA started the war) - her job was finding terrorist. (This makes sense?)
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 02:20:04 +0200, "Jelle" <mazzel@veel.plezier>
wrote:

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>"JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com> schreef in bericht
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>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:40c64bf7.898443@news.verizon.net...
>> > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:13:14 -0600, "JBM" <jmanning95@hotimail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >What is the best CPU to use with a 6800 ultra?
>> > >Right now I have a P4C800 deluxe with a 2.4C
>> > >Am considering building a AMD socket 754 system.
>> > >Was going to use the new socket 939 but thats not in
>> > >my budget. If I stay with Intel will the 2.4C not be a bottle neck?
>> > >I guess my question should be is whats the slowest CPU
>> > >I can use and not have the CPU be the bottle neck.
>> > >
>> >
>> > A 10GHz Prescott should adequately ensure that any CPU slowdown
>> > will be quite invisible to the 6800Ultra on any current DirectX9
>> > titles.
>> >
>> > John Lewis
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Thanks, that's what I suspected. Probably going to go with the
>> Athlon64 2800+ with the Asus K8N-E deluxe.
>>
>> Jim M
>>
>What good would that do? 2.4 to 2.8, mm.
>I got a 2.6, and what i am gonna do is get a GT, which is a little less

And AMD gets more performance per MGhz and the model # don't refelect
CPU speed. This is GOING to get MUCH worse soon as both Intel and AMD
will use Industry type model #s to sell their chips:

241, 242, 440, 442, FX51, FX53 etc etc... WHAT fun!

Here is a good chart between the AMD XP 3000, AMD64 2800, P4 2.8,
P4-EE and AMD 64s 3200, 3400 and FX series.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=2038&p=6

The AMD 64 3200 is about $250 (but the AMD 64 at $205 is sweeter).



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- 15yr old boy in Washington was disciplined for drawing such images.
- White House blows cover of an undercover agent because her husband said there were no WMD (before the USA started the war) - her job was finding terrorist. (This makes sense?)
God bless the land of the free. Where you can burn the Constitution... Ashcroft does it every day.
 

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With a little poking around the net , you'll find that almost every 2.4C
will pull at least 3.0 . The wisest thing in my opinion would be to go ahead
and overclock the ah heck , and keep all the money in your pocket for now?

B.


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> >"interconnect" <inter_connect@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >Why pay money on AGPx8 when
> >
> >PCI EXPRESS is the next big thing?
> >
> >Why not just wait a while for 6800 PCI EXPRESS
> >
>
> I don't think PCI express will give me any advantage right now.
> But it looks like I'll have to wait anyway since I can't find any
> 6800 cards to buy of any type or speed.
> The only advantage I can see getting PCI express is not having to
> upgrade for a while. But going to a socket 754 defeats that.
> PCI express will be there when I get the upgrade bug again.
>
> Jim
>
>
 
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"Fifty" <nospam@hamland.net> wrote in message
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> With a little poking around the net , you'll find that almost every 2.4C
> will pull at least 3.0 . The wisest thing in my opinion would be to go
ahead
> and overclock the ah heck , and keep all the money in your pocket for now?

I get a rock solid 3.2GHz with this 2.4C (ABit IS7) using a stock Intel
3.2GHz
cooler. All the RAM timings are tight and (with the latest BIOS) with 100%
load on both "CPUs" (HyperThreading) the max temp is around 57 degs. C - but
it has been kinda hot lately. Idle is around 41-42 degs. C. I have had
3.3GHz
but it's kinda dodgy - even with the RAM timings completely loose. :-(
Know
someone who's running a rock solid 3.4GHz. The lucky bastid. I'm gonna put
a
hex on him.