Question Best GPU and what PSU to go with it

[robertowen1971]

Hi all, i have been doing a lot of research on GPU's and stuck as to what to get? amd/nvidia? 8gb/12gb? i have a £500 budget and i would like to buy the best card i can, and what psu should i get to compensate the new GPU. thank you

 

[Zerk2012]

Hi all, i have been doing a lot of research on GPU's and stuck as to what to get? amd/nvidia? 8gb/12gb? i have a £500 budget and i would like to buy the best card i can, and what psu should i get to compensate the new GPU. thank you

500 for both or just the video card?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrBnmr

 

[Aeacus]

500 quid gets you this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Holo GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card (£375.59 @ Newegg UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£125.43 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £501.02

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 21:55 BST+0100

Sure RTX 3070 is older and for same money you could go with RTX 4060 Ti, but latter is waste of silicon. Better get RTX 30-series GPU.
Also, PSU is solid and great option. Easily lasting 10+ years. Yeah, PSU is white but it's 850W unit, needed due to the high transient power spikes, plagued by RTX 30-series GPUs. So, if you can look past the white PSU (or if your PC case has PSU shroud, then it doesn't matter how PSU looks), you have a solid combination.

 

[robertowen1971]

500 for both or just the video card?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrBnmr

£500 just for the GPU, i have a separate budget for the PSU around £100

 

[robertowen1971]

500 quid gets you this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Holo GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card (£375.59 @ Newegg UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£125.43 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £501.02

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 21:55 BST+0100

Sure RTX 3070 is older and for same money you could go with RTX 4060 Ti, but latter is waste of silicon. Better get RTX 30-series GPU.
Also, PSU is solid and great option. Easily lasting 10+ years. Yeah, PSU is white but it's 850W unit, needed due to the high transient power spikes, plagued by RTX 30-series GPUs. So, if you can look past the white PSU (or if your PC case has PSU shroud, then it doesn't matter how PSU looks), you have a solid combination.

thank you for your reply, i was looking at a 3070, even the ti, plus i have in my trolley a

GIGABYTE P850GM V2, 850W, 80 Plus Gold Certified, i am trying to go all gigabyte ​

 

[Zerk2012]

thank you for your reply, i was looking at a 3070, even the ti, plus i have in my trolley a

GIGABYTE P850GM V2, 850W, 80 Plus Gold Certified, i am trying to go all gigabyte ​

That power supply just has a 5 year warranty not the 10 year the NZXT has, the NZXT is based off of the Seasonic Focus

i am trying to go all gigabyte ​

Why that is not very smart. I would go for quality parts and performance not just for one brand just because!

The 6800XT pretty much just spanks the 3070ti.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1oFfRfgy6M

EDIT In that case you will never even see the power supply!

 

[Aeacus]

i am trying to go all gigabyte

Which is more important:
* best price to performance ratio
* only one brand components


If brand matters more, then:

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Rev 2.0 GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card (£479.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Gigabyte AORUS P GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£125.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £605.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-26 01:41 BST+0100

Paying 100 quid extra on "brand" GPU. Well, why not. Brand matters, right?
Also, PSU isn't as good as Corsair RM series i linked above but Gigabyte just doesn't make good PSUs. Then again, who cares until it is the correct brand, right?

Btw, Aorus AP-GM is better than P850GM V2. Personally, i wouldn't use either of the two. Too low build quality for my preferences. I'd only use top tier, since after all, PSU is the most important component inside the PC, because it powers everything.

 

[robertowen1971]

That power supply just has a 5 year warranty not the 10 year the NZXT has, the NZXT is based off of the Seasonic Focus

i am trying to go all gigabyte ​

Why that is not very smart. I would go for quality parts and performance not just for one brand just because!

The 6800XT pretty much just spanks the 3070ti.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1oFfRfgy6M

EDIT In that case you will never even see the power supply!

okay, i see, i will reconsider my choices thank you

 

[robertowen1971]

Which is more important:
* best price to performance ratio
* only one brand components


If brand matters more, then:

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Rev 2.0 GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card (£479.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Gigabyte AORUS P GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£125.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £605.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-26 01:41 BST+0100

Paying 100 quid extra on "brand" GPU. Well, why not. Brand matters, right?
Also, PSU isn't as good as Corsair RM series i linked above but Gigabyte just doesn't make good PSUs. Then again, who cares until it is the correct brand, right?

Btw, Aorus AP-GM is better than P850GM V2. Personally, i wouldn't use either of the two. Too low build quality for my preferences. I'd only use top tier, since after all, PSU is the most important component inside the PC, because it powers everything.

thank you, it was not because of brand, it was because of compatibility, i assume that having parts from same manufacturer would be a good idea. i would prefer performance any day. again thank you for your comment

 

[Aeacus]

i assume that having parts from same manufacturer would be a good idea.

Yeah, that would only, partially apply, if you want to control your RGB solutions from single software. E.g Gigabyte RGB Fusion, that is used to control Gigabyte MoBo RGB. It also works with Gigabyte GPUs that have RGB. But other than that eyecandy, there is little reason as of why to get everything same brand. Heck, you even can't if you try.

For example, brands within my main build (Skylake, full specs with pics in my sig):

Spoiler: Brand list. Click here to view.

CPU - Intel
CPU cooler - Arctic Cooling
Thermal paste - Arctic Cooling
MoBo - MSI
RAM - Kingston
SSD - 3x Samsung, 1x Crucial
ODD - Sony
GPU - MSI
PC case - Corsair
PSU - Seasonic

OS - Micro$oft

Case fans - 6x Corsair, 3x NZXT
RGB eyecandy - NZXT
Fan controller - Thermaltake
Card reader - Frontier
USB hub - NZXT
Adapter frame (3.5" to 2.5") - Delock
Aftermarket filters - Demciflex
Custom sleeved cables - CableMod
Peripherals (KB, mouse, headset, mouse pad) - Corsair
Speakers - AverMedia
Webcam - Logitech
Monitor - MSI
UPS - CyberPower
Printer/scanner - Canon

 

[robertowen1971]

thank you once again for your help , so with my initial budget of 500, i have an additional 100 which i was going to use for my psu, will you still recommend the 3070 and corsair, or do i have room for anything else. i was going to spend x amount on psu and get that upgraded first and then a few months are needed to accumulate the additional amount

 

[Aeacus]

thank you once again for your help , so with my initial budget of 500, i have an additional 100 which i was going to use for my psu, will you still recommend the 3070 and corsair, or do i have room for anything else. i was going to spend x amount on psu and get that upgraded first and then a few months are needed to accumulate the additional amount

For ~570 quid, you can go with RTX 4070,
review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-review
pcpp: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=550&page=1

Solid GPU, equal to RTX 3080 and RX 6900 XT.

PSU wise, it's complicated.
RTX 4070 is 200W GPU and on normal day, 650W PSU would do just fine.

However, transient power spikes are still an issue. Not as severe as it was with RTX 30-series (2-2.5 times TDP) but still, RTX 40-series can spike ~1.5-2 times of TDP.
Biggest issue here is whom to trust regarding reported GPU transient power spikes. GamersNexus made in-depth testing when RTX 40-series 1st launched and they found it at ~1.5-2 times TDP, indicating better power delivery with next generation (which is to be expected). However, other sources (e.g like this one), say the power spikes to be up to 3.5 TDP. Indicating far worse power delivery OR it's just a marketing pitch, fear forcing people to buy expensive ATX 3.0 1000W PSUs.

Personally, i trust Steve (GamersNexus) and thus, suggest getting 850W PSU for RTX 4070 as well. The Corsair one i linked above does fine. In an event, RTX 4070 spiking up to 2 times TDP, would result ~400W pulled by GPU. Add the rest of the system at ~200W to it and you'd be left ample 250W free power, when using 850W PSU. Even 750W PSU could do, leaving comfortable 150W free IF the GPU spikes to 400W.

So, get yourself a good quality 750/850W unit and then collect a tad bit more for RTX 4070.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Well, I think that I can make your day a bit brighter with this.

Video Card: Budget £500
My recommendation: Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 XT Red Dragon OC - £499.98 at ebuyer

Power Supply Budget: £100
My recommendation: Corsair RM750e 750W 80+Gold-Certified Fully-Modular - £97.99 at Scan

I sincerely doubt that you'll find a better combination of products that fall within the budget that you specified. Enjoy!

 

[robertowen1971]

For ~570 quid, you can go with RTX 4070,
review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-review
pcpp: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=550&page=1

Solid GPU, equal to RTX 3080 and RX 6900 XT.

PSU wise, it's complicated.
RTX 4070 is 200W GPU and on normal day, 650W PSU would do just fine.

However, transient power spikes are still an issue. Not as severe as it was with RTX 30-series (2-2.5 times TDP) but still, RTX 40-series can spike ~1.5-2 times of TDP.
Biggest issue here is whom to trust regarding reported GPU transient power spikes. GamersNexus made in-depth testing when RTX 40-series 1st launched and they found it at ~1.5-2 times TDP, indicating better power delivery with next generation (which is to be expected). However, other sources (e.g like this one), say the power spikes to be up to 3.5 TDP. Indicating far worse power delivery OR it's just a marketing pitch, fear forcing people to buy expensive ATX 3.0 1000W PSUs.

Personally, i trust Steve (GamersNexus) and thus, suggest getting 850W PSU for RTX 4070 as well. The Corsair one i linked above does fine. In an event, RTX 4070 spiking up to 2 times TDP, would result ~400W pulled by GPU. Add the rest of the system at ~200W to it and you'd be left ample 250W free power, when using 850W PSU. Even 750W PSU could do, leaving comfortable 150W free IF the GPU spikes to 400W.

So, get yourself a good quality 750/850W unit and then collect a tad bit more for RTX 4070.

again, my deepest thanks for all you help and input greatly appreciated and i knew i could come here and get the best response have a great day

 

[robertowen1971]

Well, I think that I can make your day a bit brighter with this.

Video Card: Budget £500
My recommendation: Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 XT Red Dragon OC - £499.98 at ebuyer

Power Supply Budget: £100
My recommendation: Corsair RM750e 750W 80+Gold-Certified Fully-Modular - £97.99 at Scan

I sincerely doubt that you'll find a better combination of products that fall within the budget that you specified. Enjoy!

thank you, i really appreciate the help i can get in this forum including the advice not forgetting the recommendations

 

[Avro Arrow]

thank you, i really appreciate the help i can get in this forum including the advice not forgetting the recommendations

You're welcome. I enjoy finding deals for people, especially when it's in another country. It's fun!

 

[Zerk2012]

You're welcome. I enjoy finding deals for people, especially when it's in another country. It's fun!

You stole my video card

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrBnmr

 

[Avro Arrow]

You stole my video card

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrBnmr

Oops! My bad. Give Zerk the credit!

You can't improve upon perfection, eh?

 

[robertowen1971]

For ~570 quid, you can go with RTX 4070,
review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-review
pcpp: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=550&page=1

Solid GPU, equal to RTX 3080 and RX 6900 XT.

PSU wise, it's complicated.
RTX 4070 is 200W GPU and on normal day, 650W PSU would do just fine.

However, transient power spikes are still an issue. Not as severe as it was with RTX 30-series (2-2.5 times TDP) but still, RTX 40-series can spike ~1.5-2 times of TDP.
Biggest issue here is whom to trust regarding reported GPU transient power spikes. GamersNexus made in-depth testing when RTX 40-series 1st launched and they found it at ~1.5-2 times TDP, indicating better power delivery with next generation (which is to be expected). However, other sources (e.g like this one), say the power spikes to be up to 3.5 TDP. Indicating far worse power delivery OR it's just a marketing pitch, fear forcing people to buy expensive ATX 3.0 1000W PSUs.

Personally, i trust Steve (GamersNexus) and thus, suggest getting 850W PSU for RTX 4070 as well. The Corsair one i linked above does fine. In an event, RTX 4070 spiking up to 2 times TDP, would result ~400W pulled by GPU. Add the rest of the system at ~200W to it and you'd be left ample 250W free power, when using 850W PSU. Even 750W PSU could do, leaving comfortable 150W free IF the GPU spikes to 400W.

So, get yourself a good quality 750/850W unit and then collect a tad bit more for RTX 4070.

Thank you again Aeacus, i went for the corsair RM850X, and then my wife bought be an early anniversary gift, a nvidia rtx 4070, which i received yesterday plus i wont forget and a thank you to all the others for their help and input.

 

[Aeacus]

Thank you again Aeacus, i went for the corsair RM850X, and then my wife bought be an early anniversary gift, a nvidia rtx 4070, which i received yesterday

Solid PSU with easy 10 years of lifespan. Also, RTX 4070 is great GPU as well, giving you ample performance for several years to come.