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dalek1234

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Even with the discount, it's still more expansive than the competition.

Also, Surface products have this tendency to break down shortly after warranty expires, and there is not way to repair it. Trying to take it apart will break things. iFix it gives Surface Laptop 4 a Repairability Score of 0 out of 10.

Eff you very much, Microsoft!

MS, make it reparable, and I'll pay the premium, but only because of the Ryzen option and the 3.2 aspect-ration screen.
 
Even with the discount, it's still more expansive than the competition.

Also, Surface products have this tendency to break down shortly after warranty expires, and there is not way to repair it. Trying to take it apart will break things. iFix it gives Surface Laptop 4 a Repairability Score of 0 out of 10.

Eff you very much, Microsoft!

MS, make it reparable, and I'll pay the premium, but only because of the Ryzen option and the 3.2 aspect-ration screen.
Show me a device of similar spec, size and weight that is easily repairable?
 

dalek1234

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Show me a device of similar spec, size and weight that is easily repairable?
I wouldn't be able to show you one, because of the size and weight you are talking about. I guess this is why MS charges a premium for it. But size and weight are of no concern to me. My laptop sits on the kitchen table. It hardly ever gets moved. It's the inability to repair that I'm not OK with.

Can't wait for the 'right-to-repair' laws to be introduced.

If other vendors' laptops had the same screen aspect ratio as the Surface, and few of them already come with Zen3 (vs Zen2 in Surface) thus besting the Surface in this spec, I wouldn't even bother looking at the Surface.

MS nailed it with the aspect ratio and 15 inch size. Too bad others are mostly stuck on the 16:9
 
I wouldn't be able to show you one, because of the size and weight you are talking about. I guess this is why MS charges a premium for it. But size and weight are of no concern to me. My laptop sits on the kitchen table. It hardly ever gets moved. It's the inability to repair that I'm not OK with.

Can't wait for the 'right-to-repair' laws to be introduced.

If other vendors' laptops had the same screen aspect ratio as the Surface, and few of them already come with Zen3 (vs Zen2 in Surface) thus besting the Surface in this spec, I wouldn't even bother looking at the Surface.

MS nailed it with the aspect ratio and 15 inch size. Too bad others are mostly stuck on the 16:9
And there you have it. You don’t need one of the main selling points which is the size and weight, look to device s that meet your requirements. To achieve this main feature they have had to compromise on ease of repair. I’d expect even with a right to repair anything other than the screen will probably require buying a new mainboard which is unlikely to be cost effective.
 

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