Best performance cooling for AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 8-Core 16 Thread 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo).

[waynelugames]

It doesn't matter if its air or liquid, I need some recommendations for performance cooling for the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 8-Core 16 Thread 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo) chip because I reach 90* while gaming on stock fan. Any recommendations?

Max height: 160mm

MB: A320 PRO VD- PLUS

 

[Phaaze88]

Where'd the stock cooler come from? 1800x doesn't come with one.
Is this 90C at stock clocks, or with an overclock?

Cryorig H7, Noctua NH-U9S, be quiet! Dark Rock 4, to name a few.

 

[geofelt]

What is your case and fan arrangement?

Noctua NH-D15s will be the most effective.
Here are the Noctua TDP specs:
https://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide

You will cool as well as the best aio coolers, but it will be much quieter doing it.
And, it will not leak.

 

[waynelugames]

Where'd the stock cooler come from? 1800x doesn't come with one.
Is this 90C at stock clocks, or with an overclock?

Cryorig H7, Noctua NH-U9S, be quiet! Dark Rock 4, to name a few.

I bought a prebuilt PC and I am planning on upgrading it myself. The CPU fan is a cool master 10$ fan which does a horrible job cooling. I am a complete noob to this type of stuff and I'm barely educated about overclocking. My CPU freq is 3.6 and I do not wish to overclock, is there a way to see if I am overclocking?

 

[waynelugames]

What is your case and fan arrangement?

Noctua NH-D15s will be the most effective.
Here are the Noctua TDP specs:
https://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide

You will cool as well as the best aio coolers, but it will be much quieter doing it.
And, it will not leak.

Case specs: https://imgur.com/gallery/CQjjmNs

I have one 120mm exhaust fan, and one 120mm front intake fan. I am planning on adding two more fans to both intake and exhaust.

Also the NH-D15s is 165mm tall and my case says the clearance is 160mm, will it fit or do you have any 160mm or less fans which are great performers?

 

[Karadjgne]

In the world of cpu cooling, bigger is always better. You cannot over cool a cpu, but you most certainly can undercool a cpu, as you have figured out.

So depending on budget, for air I'd choose the Noctua NH-D15S, for liquid, any of the 280mm or larger, depending on what will fit into the case.

Edit: the Noctua NH-D15S is 160mm tall, not 165mm. Your case will fit either a 280mm or 360mm cooler up front as intake, which is fine. Comes with necessary fans, so the stick intake could be then used as exhaust, no need to buy additional fans.

 

[Phaaze88]

Prebuilt. Now it makes sense... that was a bad match for that cpu.
D15S is 160mm, but it goes over that when mounting a front fan while using ram with the fancy heatspreaders.
D15(non S) is 165. Perhaps you confused the 2?

 

[waynelugames]

Prebuilt. Now it makes sense... that was a bad match for that cpu.
D15S is 160mm, but it goes over that when mounting a front fan while using ram with the fancy heatspreaders.
D15(non S) is 165. Perhaps you confused the 2?

I think I might have. My bad.

My idle temps are 35-55 and gaming for 30min to 60min raises my temps to 90 degrees with this cpu fan http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/standard-cooler/a30/

I basically don't know anything about overclocking, do you think I am or it is just the fans? (Sorry I'm aa noobie)

 

[Phaaze88]

Whichever company you got that prebuilt from, don't do business with 'em again!
They were smoking something, pairing a 65w TDP cooler with a 95w cpu. That's why your temps were spiking.
Go with the D15S as suggested by geofelt, if you can afford it.

 

[waynelugames]

Whichever company you got that prebuilt from, don't do business with 'em again!
They were smoking something, pairing a 65w TDP cooler with a 95w cpu. That's why your temps were spiking.
Go with the D15S as suggested by geofelt, if you can afford it.

Hahah thank you! You are sure I wasn't overclocking right? (overclocking scares me for a new pc user)

Anyways, I'm not planning to do business with them again, the specs looked good and I am planning to build on from here. Thank you so much for your help and I will for sure invest in the D15S

 

[Karadjgne]

Idle temps are perfectly normal for windows 10. There's enough crap that runs in the background, that constant program startups will constantly bounce your temps from idle 32 to small load startup 55. But thats such a small load that the temps drop a second or two later, no worries.

It's the 90 that's the issue. With just 2 fans, airflow isn't optimized and that tiny CoolerMaster isn't much more than a 'stock cooler' would be. Ok for websurfing or other light cpu usage, but under duress, plain sucks.

Airflow needs to be better, adding fans is good idea. If going with an aircooler. Aio has included fans, so the budget becomes more equitable. Honestly, I'd slap in a fractal design Celsius S36, 360mm radiator, for a cleaner look with full front matching fans, move the current intake to exhaust and never worry about temps again.

Oc is a hobby, very rarely ever a necessity. It's a little performance tweak you can do yourself to push the performance envelope. It's not much more than fine tuning the cpu. But simple as it sounds, to do right is quite complex and there's a multitude of variables to consider. Airflow and cpu cooling ability are just 2,theres voltage limits current limits other voltages that may or may not need changing, compatability with eco settings etc etc. That involves a lot of research, and when you think you have read everything there is, read it all again. Figure every definition of every setting in the bios, what each setting does, what it means, how does it affect other settings etc.

Then go play. Baby steps. Test. Change things. Baby steps. Test again. A good OC can take a week to attain and another month to dial in better. As I said, it's a hobby, take the time to do it right and it's worth it. Skip steps, jump big, change things you don't understand and what you'll get is not much different from a load of other posters all wanting to know why their pc keeps bsod in the middle of a game.

 

[Phaaze88]

If you didn't mess with any settings in the bios, then no, you weren't overclocking.
The cpu will run at higher clocks as long as temps are under control, which wasn't happening with that insufficient cooler.

 

[waynelugames]

If you didn't mess with any settings in the bios, then no, you weren't overclocking.
The cpu will run at higher clocks as long as temps are under control, which wasn't happening with that insufficient cooler.

I got worried I was overclocking earlier today and I opened BIOS and clicked on advances settings and pressed "overclock settings" my CPU temp began to rise, but I switched back to normal settings and things went back to normal. I then left without saving.

I should be ok right?

 

[waynelugames]

Idle temps are perfectly normal for windows 10. There's enough crap that runs in the background, that constant program startups will constantly bounce your temps from idle 32 to small load startup 55. But thats such a small load that the temps drop a second or two later, no worries.

It's the 90 that's the issue. With just 2 fans, airflow isn't optimized and that tiny CoolerMaster isn't much more than a 'stock cooler' would be. Ok for websurfing or other light cpu usage, but under duress, plain sucks.

Airflow needs to be better, adding fans is good idea. If going with an aircooler. Aio has included fans, so the budget becomes more equitable. Honestly, I'd slap in a fractal design Celsius S36, 360mm radiator, for a cleaner look with full front matching fans, move the current intake to exhaust and never worry about temps again.

I plan on adding 2 more fans for a total of 4 fans (2intake) (2 exhaust) as well as the NHD15s. Would you recommend what I just stated or adding a AIO cooler? The only issue I have with AIO coolers is that coolers have issues with failed pumps and leakage. For example the cooler you recommended the reviews are stating it worked for 6 months then failed. How ever I will consider the setup you recommend. Do you think my setup or yours is most efficient and long term?

Heads up: I am running off 550w (Idk if that's important)

 

[Phaaze88]

If you didn't mess with any settings in the bios, then no, you weren't overclocking.
The cpu will run at higher clocks as long as temps are under control, which wasn't happening with that insufficient cooler.

I got worried I was overclocking earlier today and I opened BIOS and clicked on advances settings and pressed "overclock settings" my CPU temp began to rise, but I switched back to normal settings and things went back to normal. I then left without saving.

I should be ok right?

You entered bios, settings were at default. You then went into advanced settings and hit an auto overclock button.
After, you switched back to default, and left w/o saving, thereby leaving bios at default settings.
You're fine.

 

[waynelugames]

If you didn't mess with any settings in the bios, then no, you weren't overclocking.
The cpu will run at higher clocks as long as temps are under control, which wasn't happening with that insufficient cooler.

I got worried I was overclocking earlier today and I opened BIOS and clicked on advances settings and pressed "overclock settings" my CPU temp began to rise, but I switched back to normal settings and things went back to normal. I then left without saving.

I should be ok right?

You entered bios, settings were at default. You then went into advanced settings and hit an auto overclock button.
After, you switched back to default, and left w/o saving, thereby leaving bios at default settings.
You're fine.

Thank you!

One more question I have is that I have a 550w PSU. I have one MB 4 pin fan header and it is used up by the back exhaust. I am planning to add 2 more fans (I have a fan splitter near the PSU that can charge 2 fans (2pins on them), by adding the NH D15s to the cpu fan mount I should be fine right?

 

[Karadjgne]

Noctua is great about giving you everything you'll need to set up the cooler, plus extras. That includes a necessary splitter for the fan/s, extra clips etc. Noctua is about as good as it gets for aircoolers for a reason.

There should be a total of 3 headers on your board, 1 for rear exhaust, 1 for cpu and one for the front. At least. They may be in odd places like the very top of the mobo above the ram, or down in a corner, but they are there, or should be. So splitters on both will take care of the case fans and the cpu only has the one, (2 others can be added if you want) so it goes solo on the cpu_fan header.

 

[waynelugames]

Noctua is great about giving you everything you'll need to set up the cooler, plus extras. That includes a necessary splitter for the fan/s, extra clips etc. Noctua is about as good as it gets for aircoolers for a reason.

There should be a total of 3 headers on your board, 1 for rear exhaust, 1 for cpu and one for the front. At least. They may be in odd places like the very top of the mobo above the ram, or down in a corner, but they are there, or should be. So splitters on both will take care of the case fans and the cpu only has the one, (2 others can be added if you want) so it goes solo on the cpu_fan header.

My MB literally has 1 CPU fan port, and 1 4 Pin case fan plug. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/A320M-PRO-VD-PLUS/Specification

How should I go about adding more fans?

 

[Karadjgne]

Depends on the fans. If your current case fans are 4pin pwm then a 4way pwm splitter can be used. This only uses the pwm signal, power for the fans comes from the psu directly. If your case fans are 3pin, that's analog and controlled by adjusting voltage. You can find hubs, fan controllers etc that'll work to adjust the voltage supplied. It's usually cheaper to toss analog 3pin fans, and replace them with pwm as they don't require anything more than a powered splitter and a decent fan controller is @$30+

Just make sure all 4 fans match, you'll not want to mix 3pin and 4pin.

 

[waynelugames]

Depends on the fans. If your current case fans are 4pin pwm then a 4way pwm splitter can be used. This only uses the pwm signal, power for the fans comes from the psu directly. If your case fans are 3pin, that's analog and controlled by adjusting voltage. You can find hubs, fan controllers etc that'll work to adjust the voltage supplied. It's usually cheaper to toss analog 3pin fans, and replace them with pwm as they don't require anything more than a powered splitter and a decent fan controller is @$30+

Just make sure all 4 fans match, you'll not want to mix 3pin and 4pin.

I have four 3pin fans, can I just use https://www.amazon.com/Exwin-Sleeved-Splitter-Desktop-Computer/dp/B0749JJ2YR/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1533690136&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=fan+hub&psc=1 by attaching it to my only 4 pin MB fan head, and use it to power all 4 fans in my case? I don't need PWN or to individually control them, all I need is for the fans to be able to react and respond to the heat and chance speeds due to temps.