Best possible graphic card without my system bottlenecking

[hyrudigan]

My pc is i3 3210
4gb 650 Hz ram
I ball zps 299 450 w psu
Intel dh61 bf motherboard
What would be the best possible graphic card for my system without my cpu bottlenecking? Also I was thinking around 150 us dollars budget (I know my Ram is bad but I will upgrade it to 8 GB) and also my system would be used for gaming

 

[Gadhar]

What kind of games are you hoping to play?

 

[Hellfire13]

GTX 1050... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500412&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Thats not a very good PSU though.

 

[hyrudigan]

Well all of the latest ones

 

[InvalidError]

GPU and CPU utilization are largely unrelated, a stronger GPU simply allows you to crank details up some more before becoming a significant bottleneck again.

If the CPU is going to be a bottleneck, it'll be a bottleneck regardless of what GPU you put on it. The only difference is that a faster GPU shifts more of the blame for stutter and low frame rates towards the CPU.

Something always bottlenecks regardless of how fast the CPU or GPU is, aiming for "no bottleneck" is futile. What you should really be looking at is raising the dominant bottleneck above the performance level you are aiming for.

 

[hyrudigan]

GPU and CPU utilization are largely unrelated, a stronger GPU simply allows you to crank details up some more before becoming a significant bottleneck again.

If the CPU is going to be a bottleneck, it'll be a bottleneck regardless of what GPU you put on it. The only difference is that a faster GPU shifts more of the blame for stutter and low frame rates towards the CPU.

Something always bottlenecks regardless of how fast the CPU or GPU is, aiming for "no bottleneck" is futile. What you should really be looking at is raising the dominant bottleneck above the performance level you are aiming for.

So is my cpu bottleneck?

 

[Hellfire13]

It will be a bottleneck, if you go any higher than a 1050/1050ti. The Ti cards are way above your budget right now. So the 1050 should be the best option for you right now.

 

[k.mazurk88]

1050ti was 169 on amazon just the other day currently is roughly $200 but you can get them at 169 if you look multiple times threw out the day.
1060 and up are laughable at what their going for.

 

[InvalidError]

So is my cpu bottleneck?

Everything is a bottleneck, the real question is whether the bottlenecks appear at some point beyond the performance you aim for.

The CPU dictates how quickly you run into game engine bottlenecks, the GPU dictates how quickly you run into rendering bottlenecks. Crank graphics details high enough and even a 1080Ti will bottleneck on a Pentium in some games. Lower the graphics details low enough and even an i7-7950X might bottleneck on a GTX1050 in graphically simple games.

There is no such thing as "no bottleneck" no matter how powerful your components are. Only bottlenecks occurring beyond the performance level you can be bothered with for the games you are mostly interested in. In your case, 4GB of RAM is a massive bottleneck gaming-wise due to most modern games require at least 8GB to be reasonably comfortable. If you're on IGP, then that's a huge bottleneck too as Intel's IGPs simply suck and aren't even up to par with a GT1030. For many modern games, an i3-3210 is merely passable too. You'll have to upgrade all three if you want to substantially improve your overall experience with the GPU having the highest probable impact, followed by the RAM.

 

[hyrudigan]

I'm still confused what's going to be the best for my pc

 

[Hellfire13]

What he is trying to say is, no matter how fast a car you buy, you can only drive as fast as the road permits and vice versa. No matter how good your card may be, it will only perform as good as the cpu permits it in your case, until the point it can push the card no more. Beyond that, the extra performance of a beter card is a wasted resource as the cpu will hold it back.
So go for something that will give you that balance, a 1050 in your case. Your cpu should be able to support its full potential.

 

[hyrudigan]

GTX 1050 and 1050 is available for 200 dollars in my country. But then I found a local retailer who is selling me a brand new GT 1030 for 35 dollars. I know 1030 is way way below 1050 and 1050 ti but for the sixth of price is it a better deal?

 

[zoltan.boese]

GTX 1050 and 1050 is available for 200 dollars in my country. But then I found a local retailer who is selling me a brand new GT 1030 for 35 dollars. I know 1030 is way way below 1050 and 1050 ti but for the sixth of price is it a better deal?

Here is what you can expect from a gt 1030: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gt-1030-2gb,5110-4.html

You can also look for a used previous gen card in your price range, like a gtx 960 !