Best upgrade for a GTX1050

[Vyom21]

The title explains everything, I need the best/ cheapest GPU upgrade for my PC

It currently runs a i5 4460; 8GB mem; gtx1050; 850evo; WDbl 1TB
seasonic eco430 (pcie 18A 18A) (dual rail)

I considered getting a 1060, but I'm worried that I may not be satisfied with the upgrade. Would it be wise to wait for a 2060? My primary purpose for this setup will be to play Battlefield5 and GTA Online at high & very high respectively @ 1080p/ 1440p; also hope to get a good frame rate between 60-100 (don't want to see drops below 60 anymore, tired honestly)

With the 1050, I get absolutely butter smooth gameplay in single-player/ empty lobbies. But in Online my frametime is just horrible. I should have just kept my 750ti, was a better value for money overall.

I live in India, will only need this setup for a short while as I have other plans. So I would appreciate if you guys recommended something from Amazon India, and avoided AMD as their products cost more here than in the west. TY

 

[SgtScream]

The i5 4460 even with a GTX 1060 will not be able to play BF5 smooth enough to be able to achieve an adequate kill to death ratio. That processor does not meet BF5's minimum system requirements.

 

[mgallo848]

Duplicate thread? http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3779749/online-games-massive-stuttering.html

 

[Vyom21]

@mgallo848 Ha-ha yes, I wasn't expecting my queries to receive too much attention, I worded the question differently because I just couldn't fully express my thoughts in one thread, and did not intend to pile up on it.

I've seen videos of players getting 60+ fps using the 1060; 4460 setup, they don't display the frametime. I don't mind buying a 4th gen i7, but a brand new chip costs more than an 8th i5 which apparently performs better. Heck, even an 8th gen i3 is 21% better than my 4460, feels like anyone who bought anything less than an 8th gen CPU got screwed

 

[mgallo848]

I agree with SgtScream.

Your i5 will have times where it will run ok in games like the BF series but there will be times it's going to stutter and struggle big time. If you can find an i7 4790k for a reasonable price that would be a really nice upgrade and still have plenty of horsepower.

To give you an example, I have a HTPC running an i7 3770k with a GTX 1060 3GB and 8GB of DDR3 1600. I installed BF1 on it just to see how it runs and I have the framerate locked at 70 fps, 1080 resolution with a mix of medium to high settings and it ran with zero game issues.

Hope this helps.

 

[Vyom21]

I agree with SgtScream.

Your i5 will have times where it will run ok in games like the BF series but there will be times it's going to stutter and struggle big time. If you can find an i7 4790k for a reasonable price that would be a really nice upgrade and still have plenty of horsepower.

To give you an example, I have a HTPC running an i7 3770k with a GTX 1060 3GB and 8GB of DDR3 1600. I installed BF1 on it just to see how it runs and I have the framerate locked at 70 fps, 1080 resolution with a mix of medium to high settings and it ran with zero game issues.
Hope this helps.

That is amazing, is your CPU overclocked? I guess the 8 threads help with performance, there are a couple of i7 3770ks available priced between $130-200. Is it worth spending money on? Also, Iam not sure if my ASUS H81-MC is compatible with the 3770k. Say I were to successfully install the i7, would I get singleplayer fps in multiplayer? Also, How do I achieve the lowest frametime? Is it atall possible the get single digit numbers with my current setup? at high settings?

 

[mgallo848]

An i7 3770k won't fit in your motherboard but this list below WILL work: (you may need to update your BIOS first) https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H81MC/HelpDesk_CPU/

Core i7-4770
Core i7-4770k
Core i7-4790
Core i7-4790K

I don't think you can overclock with your particular motherboard (H81) but I could be wrong. The i7 4790 or 4790k would be your best bet but I would honestly buy whichever one of these four you could get the best deal on. (You could sell your i5 to help offset the cost)

As for mine, it's in a Home Theatre PC that I use mostly for movies and light gaming (mostly racing games on a 65 in TV) so I only gave it a minor overclock to 4.2 (from 3.9). The 4770k and 4790k are both about 10% faster (or more) than my 3770k so that would easily make up the difference of not overclocking them.

A few years ago, 4 core i5's were easily fast enough but unfortunately that's changing fast and more cores/threads are the way to go.

 

[SgtScream]

Correct, the H Series boards cannot be overclocked. This works out in your favor because you don't want to purchase a used i7 4790k because you have no idea how much voltage the former user was running on the motherboard. I picked up a used i7 4790 on eBay for $150 and it was a noticeable difference. This way by purchasing a used locked sku, you know the end user wasn't upping the voltage to unsafe levels and did not overclock the chip. You'll definitely want to upgrade the 1050 after going this route, as the i7 can handle much more graphics horsepower.

 

[julijs.r1000]

Upgrade CPU and memory, and live happy life... I have old gen. 4560 + GTX1050 and don't experience problems with modern title games, except if I want to play everything on maximum settings

 

[TheStig47]

The title explains everything, I need the best/ cheapest GPU upgrade for my PC

It currently runs a i5 4460; 8GB mem; gtx1050; 850evo; WDbl 1TB
seasonic eco430 (pcie 18A 18A) (dual rail)

I considered getting a 1060, but I'm worried that I may not be satisfied with the upgrade. Would it be wise to wait for a 2060? My primary purpose for this setup will be to play Battlefield5 and GTA Online at high & very high respectively @ 1080p/ 1440p; also hope to get a good frame rate between 60-100 (don't want to see drops below 60 anymore, tired honestly)

With the 1050, I get absolutely butter smooth gameplay in single-player/ empty lobbies. But in Online my frametime is just horrible. I should have just kept my 750ti, was a better value for money overall.

I live in India, will only need this setup for a short while as I have other plans. So I would appreciate if you guys recommended something from Amazon India, and avoided AMD as their products cost more here than in the west. TY

As suggested by others, upgrade your CPU to an i7 4770 or 4790. I don't believe you can overclock on your motherboard so you would not need to get the i7 4700K or 4790K (K is the designation for an Intel overclockable CPU). You can get the 4700 for $285 and the 4790 for $340 from online sellers or you can buy one used from eBay for about $150 or $200 respectively. If you buy from eBay make sure the seller will take it back if it does not work. Most used CPUs should work just fine but you wouldn't want to get stuck with a dead one.

As for the GPU, the best upgrade will be the GTX 1070. This will give you all the power you need to run all games on max settings at 1080p and should allow very high to max settings on a 1440p monitor. Btw, from my experience, once you go 1440p for gaming you will find it very difficult to go back to 1080p.

You could go with a GTX 1060 6GB card to save money, and it is about 30% faster than a GTX 1050, it will only allow high to very high settings for most triple-A games at 1080p. I would expect a GTX 1060 to run a 1440p monitor but haven't experienced it personally and would expect game settings might have to be lowered even more to get decent frame rates.

So, a better CPU (i7 4770 or i7 4790) and a better GPU (either GTX 1060 for 1080p at high to very high settings or a GTX 1070 for 1440p at very high to max settings - max settings at 1080p for most games).

Both CPU and GPU can be purchased used but get a return/refund guarantee if you go in that direction.

Oh, about your RAM: Most computers used for gaming really only need 8 GB of RAM, and this is probably even more valid when one has a higher-end graphics card that has 6 to 8 GB of RAM, itself. Of course, because we use our computers for all sorts of things, 16 GB is the recommended amount to have in one's computer. But, if you buy a CPU and GPU you can wait to upgrade RAM later. Good luck.

 

[Vyom21]

Upgrade CPU and memory, and live happy life... I have old gen. 4560 + GTX1050 and don't experience problems with modern title games, except if I want to play everything on maximum settings

a 4560? What is that an i7 4560u? Doesnt that thing have 2 cores? Or is it a G4560? Either way both of those processors are slower than the one I have (i5 4460). I think.

 

[Vyom21]

The title explains everything, I need the best/ cheapest GPU upgrade for my PC

It currently runs a i5 4460; 8GB mem; gtx1050; 850evo; WDbl 1TB
seasonic eco430 (pcie 18A 18A) (dual rail)

I considered getting a 1060, but I'm worried that I may not be satisfied with the upgrade. Would it be wise to wait for a 2060? My primary purpose for this setup will be to play Battlefield5 and GTA Online at high & very high respectively @ 1080p/ 1440p; also hope to get a good frame rate between 60-100 (don't want to see drops below 60 anymore, tired honestly)

With the 1050, I get absolutely butter smooth gameplay in single-player/ empty lobbies. But in Online my frametime is just horrible. I should have just kept my 750ti, was a better value for money overall.

I live in India, will only need this setup for a short while as I have other plans. So I would appreciate if you guys recommended something from Amazon India, and avoided AMD as their products cost more here than in the west. TY

As suggested by others, upgrade your CPU to an i7 4770 or 4790. I don't believe you can overclock on your motherboard so you would not need to get the i7 4700K or 4790K (K is the designation for an Intel overclockable CPU). You can get the 4700 for $285 and the 4790 for $340 from online sellers or you can buy one used from eBay for about $150 or $200 respectively. If you buy from eBay make sure the seller will take it back if it does not work. Most used CPUs should work just fine but you wouldn't want to get stuck with a dead one.

As for the GPU, the best upgrade will be the GTX 1070. This will give you all the power you need to run all games on max settings at 1080p and should allow very high to max settings on a 1440p monitor. Btw, from my experience, once you go 1440p for gaming you will find it very difficult to go back to 1080p.

You could go with a GTX 1060 6GB card to save money, and it is about 30% faster than a GTX 1050, it will only allow high to very high settings for most triple-A games at 1080p. I would expect a GTX 1060 to run a 1440p monitor but haven't experienced it personally and would expect game settings might have to be lowered even more to get decent frame rates.

So, a better CPU (i7 4770 or i7 4790) and a better GPU (either GTX 1060 for 1080p at high to very high settings or a GTX 1070 for 1440p at very high to max settings - max settings at 1080p for most games).

Both CPU and GPU can be purchased used but get a return/refund guarantee if you go in that direction.

Oh, about your RAM: Most computers used for gaming really only need 8 GB of RAM, and this is probably even more valid when one has a higher-end graphics card that has 6 to 8 GB of RAM, itself. Of course, because we use our computers for all sorts of things, 16 GB is the recommended amount to have in one's computer. But, if you buy a CPU and GPU you can wait to upgrade RAM later. Good luck.

Clearly you guys have more experience than I do in this department, so I'll ask a question for a friend. He has an i5 7600k; used to have a 1050ti; now has a 1080; he tells me that the fps has massively improved after the upgrade but there is a lot of stuttering at random points while playing BF5 and BF1 even GTA Online sometimes (his CPU also maxes out at 80-99%) his frametime jumps to 25ms. He's considering getting a i7 7700k, now, I did tell him that he could go ahead and buy the 7700k (since his motherboard supports 6th-7th gen CPUs only) but then I stumbled upon CPU userBenchmark; according to them the 7700k is only 4% faster than the 7600k.........good god!

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/3647vs3885

He has put his plans to buy the 7700k on hold since this discovery. Yes I know, those 8 threads will definitely help, but by how much?

 

[SgtScream]

The title explains everything, I need the best/ cheapest GPU upgrade for my PC

It currently runs a i5 4460; 8GB mem; gtx1050; 850evo; WDbl 1TB
seasonic eco430 (pcie 18A 18A) (dual rail)

I considered getting a 1060, but I'm worried that I may not be satisfied with the upgrade. Would it be wise to wait for a 2060? My primary purpose for this setup will be to play Battlefield5 and GTA Online at high & very high respectively @ 1080p/ 1440p; also hope to get a good frame rate between 60-100 (don't want to see drops below 60 anymore, tired honestly)

With the 1050, I get absolutely butter smooth gameplay in single-player/ empty lobbies. But in Online my frametime is just horrible. I should have just kept my 750ti, was a better value for money overall.

I live in India, will only need this setup for a short while as I have other plans. So I would appreciate if you guys recommended something from Amazon India, and avoided AMD as their products cost more here than in the west. TY

As suggested by others, upgrade your CPU to an i7 4770 or 4790. I don't believe you can overclock on your motherboard so you would not need to get the i7 4700K or 4790K (K is the designation for an Intel overclockable CPU). You can get the 4700 for $285 and the 4790 for $340 from online sellers or you can buy one used from eBay for about $150 or $200 respectively. If you buy from eBay make sure the seller will take it back if it does not work. Most used CPUs should work just fine but you wouldn't want to get stuck with a dead one.

As for the GPU, the best upgrade will be the GTX 1070. This will give you all the power you need to run all games on max settings at 1080p and should allow very high to max settings on a 1440p monitor. Btw, from my experience, once you go 1440p for gaming you will find it very difficult to go back to 1080p.

You could go with a GTX 1060 6GB card to save money, and it is about 30% faster than a GTX 1050, it will only allow high to very high settings for most triple-A games at 1080p. I would expect a GTX 1060 to run a 1440p monitor but haven't experienced it personally and would expect game settings might have to be lowered even more to get decent frame rates.

So, a better CPU (i7 4770 or i7 4790) and a better GPU (either GTX 1060 for 1080p at high to very high settings or a GTX 1070 for 1440p at very high to max settings - max settings at 1080p for most games).

Both CPU and GPU can be purchased used but get a return/refund guarantee if you go in that direction.

Oh, about your RAM: Most computers used for gaming really only need 8 GB of RAM, and this is probably even more valid when one has a higher-end graphics card that has 6 to 8 GB of RAM, itself. Of course, because we use our computers for all sorts of things, 16 GB is the recommended amount to have in one's computer. But, if you buy a CPU and GPU you can wait to upgrade RAM later. Good luck.

Clearly you guys have more experience than I do in this department, so I'll ask a question for a friend. He has an i5 7600k; used to have a 1050ti; now has a 1080; he tells me that the fps has massively improved after the upgrade but there is a lot of stuttering at random points while playing BF5 and BF1 even GTA Online sometimes (his CPU also maxes out at 80-99%) his frametime jumps to 25ms. He's considering getting a i7 7700k, now, I did tell him that he could go ahead and buy the 7700k (since his motherboard supports 6th-7th gen CPUs only) but then I stumbled upon CPU userBenchmark; according to them the 7700k is only 4% faster than the 7600k.........good god!

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/3647vs3885

He has put his plans to buy the 7700k on hold since this discovery. Yes I know, those 8 threads will definitely help, but by how much?

Tell your friend to adjust the FPS limit to his monitor's refresh rate and see if there's an improvement.

 

[Vyom21]

The title explains everything, I need the best/ cheapest GPU upgrade for my PC

It currently runs a i5 4460; 8GB mem; gtx1050; 850evo; WDbl 1TB
seasonic eco430 (pcie 18A 18A) (dual rail)

I considered getting a 1060, but I'm worried that I may not be satisfied with the upgrade. Would it be wise to wait for a 2060? My primary purpose for this setup will be to play Battlefield5 and GTA Online at high & very high respectively @ 1080p/ 1440p; also hope to get a good frame rate between 60-100 (don't want to see drops below 60 anymore, tired honestly)

With the 1050, I get absolutely butter smooth gameplay in single-player/ empty lobbies. But in Online my frametime is just horrible. I should have just kept my 750ti, was a better value for money overall.

I live in India, will only need this setup for a short while as I have other plans. So I would appreciate if you guys recommended something from Amazon India, and avoided AMD as their products cost more here than in the west. TY

As suggested by others, upgrade your CPU to an i7 4770 or 4790. I don't believe you can overclock on your motherboard so you would not need to get the i7 4700K or 4790K (K is the designation for an Intel overclockable CPU). You can get the 4700 for $285 and the 4790 for $340 from online sellers or you can buy one used from eBay for about $150 or $200 respectively. If you buy from eBay make sure the seller will take it back if it does not work. Most used CPUs should work just fine but you wouldn't want to get stuck with a dead one.

As for the GPU, the best upgrade will be the GTX 1070. This will give you all the power you need to run all games on max settings at 1080p and should allow very high to max settings on a 1440p monitor. Btw, from my experience, once you go 1440p for gaming you will find it very difficult to go back to 1080p.

You could go with a GTX 1060 6GB card to save money, and it is about 30% faster than a GTX 1050, it will only allow high to very high settings for most triple-A games at 1080p. I would expect a GTX 1060 to run a 1440p monitor but haven't experienced it personally and would expect game settings might have to be lowered even more to get decent frame rates.

So, a better CPU (i7 4770 or i7 4790) and a better GPU (either GTX 1060 for 1080p at high to very high settings or a GTX 1070 for 1440p at very high to max settings - max settings at 1080p for most games).

Both CPU and GPU can be purchased used but get a return/refund guarantee if you go in that direction.

Oh, about your RAM: Most computers used for gaming really only need 8 GB of RAM, and this is probably even more valid when one has a higher-end graphics card that has 6 to 8 GB of RAM, itself. Of course, because we use our computers for all sorts of things, 16 GB is the recommended amount to have in one's computer. But, if you buy a CPU and GPU you can wait to upgrade RAM later. Good luck.

Clearly you guys have more experience than I do in this department, so I'll ask a question for a friend. He has an i5 7600k; used to have a 1050ti; now has a 1080; he tells me that the fps has massively improved after the upgrade but there is a lot of stuttering at random points while playing BF5 and BF1 even GTA Online sometimes (his CPU also maxes out at 80-99%) his frametime jumps to 25ms. He's considering getting a i7 7700k, now, I did tell him that he could go ahead and buy the 7700k (since his motherboard supports 6th-7th gen CPUs only) but then I stumbled upon CPU userBenchmark; according to them the 7700k is only 4% faster than the 7600k.........good god!

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/3647vs3885

He has put his plans to buy the 7700k on hold since this discovery. Yes I know, those 8 threads will definitely help, but by how much?

Tell your friend to adjust the FPS limit to his monitor's refresh rate and see if there's an improvement.

He has tried everything, maybe he's just being nitpicky? Would he notice an improvement if he got the 7700k?

 

[SgtScream]

The title explains everything, I need the best/ cheapest GPU upgrade for my PC

It currently runs a i5 4460; 8GB mem; gtx1050; 850evo; WDbl 1TB
seasonic eco430 (pcie 18A 18A) (dual rail)

I considered getting a 1060, but I'm worried that I may not be satisfied with the upgrade. Would it be wise to wait for a 2060? My primary purpose for this setup will be to play Battlefield5 and GTA Online at high & very high respectively @ 1080p/ 1440p; also hope to get a good frame rate between 60-100 (don't want to see drops below 60 anymore, tired honestly)

With the 1050, I get absolutely butter smooth gameplay in single-player/ empty lobbies. But in Online my frametime is just horrible. I should have just kept my 750ti, was a better value for money overall.

I live in India, will only need this setup for a short while as I have other plans. So I would appreciate if you guys recommended something from Amazon India, and avoided AMD as their products cost more here than in the west. TY

As suggested by others, upgrade your CPU to an i7 4770 or 4790. I don't believe you can overclock on your motherboard so you would not need to get the i7 4700K or 4790K (K is the designation for an Intel overclockable CPU). You can get the 4700 for $285 and the 4790 for $340 from online sellers or you can buy one used from eBay for about $150 or $200 respectively. If you buy from eBay make sure the seller will take it back if it does not work. Most used CPUs should work just fine but you wouldn't want to get stuck with a dead one.

As for the GPU, the best upgrade will be the GTX 1070. This will give you all the power you need to run all games on max settings at 1080p and should allow very high to max settings on a 1440p monitor. Btw, from my experience, once you go 1440p for gaming you will find it very difficult to go back to 1080p.

You could go with a GTX 1060 6GB card to save money, and it is about 30% faster than a GTX 1050, it will only allow high to very high settings for most triple-A games at 1080p. I would expect a GTX 1060 to run a 1440p monitor but haven't experienced it personally and would expect game settings might have to be lowered even more to get decent frame rates.

So, a better CPU (i7 4770 or i7 4790) and a better GPU (either GTX 1060 for 1080p at high to very high settings or a GTX 1070 for 1440p at very high to max settings - max settings at 1080p for most games).

Both CPU and GPU can be purchased used but get a return/refund guarantee if you go in that direction.

Oh, about your RAM: Most computers used for gaming really only need 8 GB of RAM, and this is probably even more valid when one has a higher-end graphics card that has 6 to 8 GB of RAM, itself. Of course, because we use our computers for all sorts of things, 16 GB is the recommended amount to have in one's computer. But, if you buy a CPU and GPU you can wait to upgrade RAM later. Good luck.

Clearly you guys have more experience than I do in this department, so I'll ask a question for a friend. He has an i5 7600k; used to have a 1050ti; now has a 1080; he tells me that the fps has massively improved after the upgrade but there is a lot of stuttering at random points while playing BF5 and BF1 even GTA Online sometimes (his CPU also maxes out at 80-99%) his frametime jumps to 25ms. He's considering getting a i7 7700k, now, I did tell him that he could go ahead and buy the 7700k (since his motherboard supports 6th-7th gen CPUs only) but then I stumbled upon CPU userBenchmark; according to them the 7700k is only 4% faster than the 7600k.........good god!

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/3647vs3885

He has put his plans to buy the 7700k on hold since this discovery. Yes I know, those 8 threads will definitely help, but by how much?

Tell your friend to adjust the FPS limit to his monitor's refresh rate and see if there's an improvement.

He has tried everything, maybe he's just being nitpicky? Would he notice an improvement if he got the 7700k?

Yes, he would.

 

[mgallo848]

There is a huge difference in online gaming between the i5 7600 and the i7 7700k. In single player games, the i5 will do very well but playing online is a whole different animal......which is why the 7700k is the way to go.