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I recently stripped a TZ playfield and used the Treasure Cove
polishing products on it to shine it up (which worked well btw). Now
I want to wax it and I've done some googling and can't get a good
answer on what to use. I don't necessarily care about brand, but do
most people use pastes or liquid on a playfield? Is there any
difference? And do people recommend caranuba waxes, synthetic waxes,
or does it matter? Can I use the same Meguires Gold that I use on my
car (which says it contains petroleum distallates on the bottle but is
safe for clearcoat finishes), or do I need something gentler for
pinball? Or something harder? And I don't need a cleaner/wax combo
like millwax since I've already cleaned the heck out of it. I'm sure
there will be a lot of dissenting opinions on this, but what do you
use??? Thanks,
 
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After watching the DVD that came from treasure cove with the polishing
kit, it seems that they use carnuba wax. If it's good enough for them,
it's good enough for me!

I used the turtle wax paste carnuba wax and it worked wonders!
 
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A hard paste caranuba is the popular choice. I also like Eagle One
Nano wax. It doesn't leave behind dust or white residue. It plays
really fast too. The only downside is the "convenient" pump bottle. I
think Meguires has a nano wax also.

http://www.eagleone.com/pages/products/product.asp?itemid=1103&cat=5010

I use the paste caranuba when I have a PF completely stripped and I
know that I won't be leaving behind any residue or dust under plastics
and in crannies. I use the Nano wax on assembled playfields.

John
 
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JC wrote:
> I recommend Mother's 100% Caranuba paste wax. Go to your local
> automotive store.

Hi, What about Johnsons paste Wax?
 
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3M always makes a great product, I use their carnuba wax, I usualy hit
it with a 3M compound before waxing.

Mothers is very good too.

Karl.
 
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I'll go with Otto and JCs opinion of Mothers being a good choice. Get
the version without cleaner. The great reason to use this or another
"hard" wax is the fact it is hard, meaning you don't get it gobbed all
over the applicator rag and into cracks, onto posts ect. There is
nothing more disgusting and stupid looking than a car that someone is
trying real hard to take care of by waxing, but gets wax all over
everything from the trim to the tires and it just sits there like a
white scum looking at you. This goes the same for pinball. Get the wax
off, use hard wax to make it an easier job.
 
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Search "Synthetic Wax" in this group and look at the pictures I posted
awhile back of my Theatre of Magic and Paragon. Don't be afraid to try
something new.

Mike
 
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We use (and recommend) Kit Carnauba wax. Either paste or wax is fine- no
pros/cons either way other than what you prefer to work with.

We have these, and lots of other cleaners/polishes on our site- see:
www.actionpinball.com for complete details, pictures, prices, online
ordering.

Ray J.
--
Action Pinball & Amusement, LLC
Salt Lake City, Utah USA
Web: www.actionpinball.com

We're serious about pinball. Anything else is just for fun!



"Strohz" <strohz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I recently stripped a TZ playfield and used the Treasure Cove
> polishing products on it to shine it up (which worked well btw). Now
> I want to wax it and I've done some googling and can't get a good
> answer on what to use. I don't necessarily care about brand, but do
> most people use pastes or liquid on a playfield? Is there any
> difference? And do people recommend caranuba waxes, synthetic waxes,
> or does it matter? Can I use the same Meguires Gold that I use on my
> car (which says it contains petroleum distallates on the bottle but is
> safe for clearcoat finishes), or do I need something gentler for
> pinball? Or something harder? And I don't need a cleaner/wax combo
> like millwax since I've already cleaned the heck out of it. I'm sure
> there will be a lot of dissenting opinions on this, but what do you
> use??? Thanks,
>
 
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Definitely do not use pledge. Contains silicone and can damage the
playfield over time.

Use Novus 2 followed by an application of Johnson's paste wax in the
yellow can which is safe for wood products.

Don't use car waxes which are made for automotive applications that
contain additives for outdoor applications.
 
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The 90's era games have automotive clearcoats on them. Carnuba waxes
designed for clearcoats work perfectly.

Johnsons paste wax is a wonderful compound and I love to use it on finely
sanded wood as a nice finish. It adds an amber tone to the wood. It is not
clear. I would not use it on a pinball Pf unless I wanted the amber tone.


Otto

CARGPB11

My web page: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Ottoslanding

"twoplays.25" <twoplays.25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Definitely do not use pledge. Contains silicone and can damage the
> playfield over time.
>
> Use Novus 2 followed by an application of Johnson's paste wax in the
> yellow can which is safe for wood products.
>
> Don't use car waxes which are made for automotive applications that
> contain additives for outdoor applications.
 
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They may claim it, but that's impossible. 100% carnuba wax would be too hard
to spread

Personally, I don't use wax after polishing the playfields anymore, as they
seem to play fast enough for my liking.

--
http://www.myhomegameroom.com


"Otto" <ottondebremove&%$*@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> You want Carnuba.
>
> Mother's makes a carnuba wax that is perfect for Pfs and rock solid.
>
> Comes in a red can.
>
> I think they claim 100% carnuba but not sure.
>
> Smells good too.
>
>
> Otto
>
> CARGPB11
>
> My web page: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Ottoslanding
>
>
 
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I agree on the 100% issue.

I do believe the carnuba content is high. It is a hard, brittle paste.

Otto

CARGPB11

My web page: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Ottoslanding

"John Wart, jr" <johnwartjr@johnwartjr.com> wrote in message
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> They may claim it, but that's impossible. 100% carnuba wax would be too
> hard to spread
>
> Personally, I don't use wax after polishing the playfields anymore, as
> they seem to play fast enough for my liking.
 
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speaking of something new.....has anyone ever tried "Mop & Glow" I
was talking with a co-worker today and she came up with the idea. She
said that mop & Glow leaves an acrylic finish......I might have to
test a small area with this.

anyone....anyone.....

Lightning Notes


On 27 Sep 2005 18:48:25 -0700, "pinballmike217" <weenerman217@aol.com>
wrote:

>Search "Synthetic Wax" in this group and look at the pictures I posted
>awhile back of my Theatre of Magic and Paragon. Don't be afraid to try
>something new.
>
>Mike
 
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That's what I use. They do claim 100% carnuba, and that it's developed for
newer clearcoats. I've had great results with it as well. Lasts a long time.

"Otto" <ottondebremove&%$*@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> You want Carnuba.
>
> Mother's makes a carnuba wax that is perfect for Pfs and rock solid.
>
> Comes in a red can.
>
> I think they claim 100% carnuba but not sure.
>
> Smells good too.
>
>
> Otto
>
> CARGPB11
>
> My web page: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Ottoslanding
>
>
 
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I recently waxed my playfield with millwax. That seemed to work fine,
and cleaned up well. While having my games worked on the repair person
used endust wipes for a quick clean. My machines are playing fast, and
fun.

Robert
 
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"twoplays.25" <twoplays.25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Definitely do not use pledge. Contains silicone and can damage the
> playfield over time.
>
> Use Novus 2 followed by an application of Johnson's paste wax in the
> yellow can which is safe for wood products.

The surface of modern PF's aren't wood. They are essentially plastic...
the clearcoat ya know? So why would you use Johnson's Paste Wax
which has brown dye in it (confirmed by the manufacturer) and smells
like kerosene?

And you would only use an abrasive like Novus 2 ONCE - when you
may need to get rid of the whitish "fog" that sometimes is evident on
a played machine. Shouldn't ever have to use it again in the home.

>
> Don't use car waxes which are made for automotive applications that
> contain additives for outdoor applications.
>

Well that's why most look for simple carnuba wax... and a car's clearcoat is
more like a modern game's PF finish than a
straightforward wood finish.

Still I doubt if any products that have been mentioned here - including
Pledge would actually cause any *real* damage - well except the constant
use of Novus 2... that would eventually turn it to raw wood ;-)
 
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also millwax doesn't seem to last very long before the playfield gets
dirty. You will have to use it more often..... and don't use it on
mylar or near mylar, it has solvents in it (to keep the wax component
soft and to suspend the grit)

Millwax is way old school at this point and I wouldn't use it anymore.
 
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"RonKZ650" <RonKZ650@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I'll go with Otto and JCs opinion of Mothers being a good choice. Get
> the version without cleaner. The great reason to use this or another
> "hard" wax is the fact it is hard, meaning you don't get it gobbed all
> over the applicator rag and into cracks, onto posts ect. There is
> nothing more disgusting and stupid looking than a car that someone is
> trying real hard to take care of by waxing, but gets wax all over
> everything from the trim to the tires and it just sits there like a
> white scum looking at you. This goes the same for pinball. Get the wax
> off, use hard wax to make it an easier job.
>

This has been covered before but since I usually can not offer help with
pinball repairs, I will offer my opinion on wax. I have had an automotive
detailing business for several years and during that time, I learned a few
things about waxes. There is simply no such thing as 100% pure carnuba
wax. Actually, there is, but you're not spreading it on your Buick!! It
is VERY hard (almost like a rock). The manufacturer blends the carnuba with
a mixer (usually silicone), making it spreadable.

When you wax a playfield, do not waste your time with a cleaner wax. Clean
the playfield first, then apply several coats (3 or four) of "pure" carnuba
wax. Applying several coats of cleaner wax defeats the purpose. As the
second coat is applied, the first one is being stripped off by the cleaner
in the wax.

I use a brand of wax from a product line called Pro. It is of the highest
quality. I clean more cars in a year than most people do in a lifetime. I
use many of the same cleaning products on pinballs that I use on cars.

For "over the counter" wax, Meguiars offers a pretty nice product and yes,
it smells good!!! Every so often, I open a can just to get a wif, but in
the meantime, I'll stick with the Pro product line.

Hope this helps!!

Jim
 
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