Betrayal of Flesh

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Hello, I am a tournament organizer (Not a judge)
I came across a question in one of my tournaments, and I would like to
resolve the fight between two players. (I confiscated their knives and
guns.)

Player A played a......
Betrayal of Flesh
Color= Black Type= Instant Cost= 5B MR(U)
Text (MR): Choose one - Destroy target creature; or return target creature
card from your graveyard to play. ; Entwine - Sacrifice three lands. (Choose
both if you pay the entwine cost.)


When is the target for destruction announce? after or before resolution?

Player B asked him which the target was so that he could rescue the target
with Astral slide, Player A obliged and told him which one he was targeting,
before resolution, but after the game they had a small argument about the
announcement of targets. Although Player B did tell A that the spell was on
the stack and asked for the target.
Is Player A allowed to then say, no I will choose the target upon
resolution?

 

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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:08:07 +0200, WhiteLighter <whitelighter@gmx.net> wrote:
>Hello, I am a tournament organizer (Not a judge)
>I came across a question in one of my tournaments, and I would like to
>resolve the fight between two players. (I confiscated their knives and guns.)

Yay!

>Player A played a......
>Betrayal of Flesh Instant 5B
> Choose one - Destroy target creature; or return target creature card from
> your graveyard to play. ; Entwine - Sacrifice three lands. (*)

>When is the target for destruction announce? after or before resolution?

Long before. Targets are -always- announced on announcement - when the spell
is being played. (Choice of modes is announced before targets are announced
- in this case you can see that you have to know which mode(s) are being used
before you know which target(s) have to be picked - but this is all part of
announcing the spell.)

By the time ANYONE can respond to the spell, all players know which mode(s)
was/were chosen, and which target(s).

>Player B asked him which the target was so that he could rescue the target
>with Astral slide, Player A obliged and told him which one he was targeting,
>before resolution, but after the game they had a small argument about the
>announcement of targets. Although Player B did tell A that the spell was on
>the stack and asked for the target.

B is correct here - before either A or B can respond, both A and B know
all targets involved.

>Is Player A allowed to then say, no I will choose the target upon
>resolution?

No; nothing in Magic allows "choice of target on resolution". See section
409 in the rulebook to learn more about announcing a spell; anything noted
there is specified and known on announcement, while anything else waits
until resolution to be figured out.

Dave
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