Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro headphones? 80 version

[ginoalexander90]

Hi guys just a quick one I've been told on toms uk also that these are VERY good headphones for gaming, music, pretty much anything. That they destroy combonation headsets, and to just get an attachable microphone if needed with them if you need a mic.




What im unsure of, and im new to is I've also read that these are good headphones, too good in sound for quite a few areas of music/gaming, so its best to boost their performance.



This is just where im confused, I can't tell with reading what the real difference betweens DACS, AMPS, and sound cards are? but have just read alot where these headphones are advised to get at least one of them to boost their quality as most motherboards probably cant handle good quality headphones like that completely.







Also what is Dolby surround-sound 7.1? thanks!

 

[ginoalexander90]

Any advice please?

 

[Mousemonkey]

Any advice please?

Yes, stop spamming the forum.

 

[ssddx]

agreed, there is no reason to have as many duplicate threads as you do. use this one thread. while i understand you did not get an answer and were trying to get noticed its not a good idea to post multiple threads.

the dt770 is a good headphone and in uk its one of the cheaper and easier to get for a good price. it will be v-shaped and fairly bassy. if you enjoy tht kind of signature then it should work well. the 80 ohm is the bassiest of the 3 versions. the 250 is the most refined. the 32 is a bit easier to drive.

the dt990 is open and will have larger soundstaging, similar v-shaped sound but a bit less bass. the dt880 is a bit more neutral and doesnt have as high a peak on treble and bass response as the others.

dac= digital to analog converter. this converts the digital signal from your pc to an analog electrical signal that headphones and speakers can actually use.
amp= amplifier. basically it takes the low level analog signal and boosts the power output so that it can actually move the drivers in speakers and headphones.
soundcard= basically a dac, amp and software bundled together. it differs from hifi external products in that they are generally meant for gaming, pc speakers and general use. hifi products tend to be 2.0 stereo only and focus more on quality but have less features. depending on your needs and the headphones you want either one or the other is generally a good choice.

dt770-80 you could go either a soundcard or external dac+amp (or just amp if your onboard is decent quality). things like the schiit magni/modi stack, audioengine d1, fiio e10k, soundblaster z are all good.

i think you mean virtual surround. this can be dolby headphone, cmss3d/sbx, razer virtual surround among others. basically its software distorting a stereo audio stream (changing tones, volume, delay) to create a sense of 3d audio. some people like it while others dont.

 

[ginoalexander90]

Hi thank you i understand now you pick one of the options.




Ive saw quite a few places saying the amp/dac combo beats the soundcard option, as it takes it away from the PC, and that soundcards are generally just overpriced money makers not really bringing anything different, that the back audio mb slot itself is a better option lol so ill go for Dac/Amp combo i think





I dont listen to music much so would just be to get a more immerse experience in certain games that benefit from it.



The FiiO E10K is a Amp/Dac combo in one box seems to be the cheapest £60 is it also the best option of the 3 you linked?


The audioengine d1 is just a DAC and alone it costs £140 so would need an Amp too


And the Schiit ones you buy the two of them for a Dac/Amp combo




FiiO E10K seems to be the most simple and sold on amazon so good returns policy would you advise that? thats my last question thank you

 

[ssddx]

the benefits of a soundcard over an external dac+amp are
- input for mic (better than onboard quality for mic)
- built in virtual surround sound
- capability to be used for speakers too
- internal so its hidden from view
the limitations are:
- the amplifiers are not powerful enough for some harder to drive headphones

the benefits of using onboard audio + external amp only are:
- cheaper than dac+amp
- if your onboard quality is fine all you need is an amplifier to power harder to power headphones
- volume knob at your fingertips
the limitations are:
- quality is only as good as your onboard is

the benefits of a dac+amp external solution are:
- high quality audio. often better components compared to onboard
- generally less EMI noise than internal components
- volume knob
the limitations are:
- 2.0 only

both have specific cases where they are more or less recommended.

the fiio e10k is only average. it will barely handle the 250 ohm dt770 or dt990. something a bit stronger would be better but it should work. it is a dac+amp.

the audioengine d1 is a dac+amp. of fair strength.

the schiit magni2 (amp) is much much stronger and will easily power most anything you will be looking at. the modi (dac) is the other portion which you could use for modi+magni stack. that is if you intend to use an external dac or if you want to use your onboard for that function. your call as i explained above.

is the fiio e10k the first recommendation? i would feel more comfortable recommending the schiit products if you picked a 250ohm can but if you want the 80ohm dt770 it should be sufficient. i would say either the e10k or if soundcard the creative z would be good choices to pair up with that can.

now if you want virtual surround on the e10k.. i believe razers free software will still work. i've also heard that if your onboard supports virtual surround sound you can also get it to work but i cant help there as i dont use either.

 

[ginoalexander90]

hi again its the DT770 80 Ohm version i have



So in that case would the Modi+Magni stack be any superior to the Fiio e10k or pretty similar?





Gaming is the only focus I have that i want to improve on to make things a little more immersive as the headphones are closed back too, i dont get any interference at the moment so just want to improve what i already have



And pick the best setup that would also lead to the best Virtual Surround sound set up to again make things a little more realistic probably using Dolby




So in short with DT770 80ohm's, Sound card vs Amp/Dac for gaming sound quality + best surround sound in your opinion thanks for your help🙂

 

[ssddx]

if you want virtual surround, the creative z would work as it has this built in.

if you wanted external, you could always use the e10k with razers virtual surround software.

i think you will get better "virtual surround" from the soundcard though if that is what you wanted.