i can buy any one them 810 with 8gb or 1045T with 4 or 6 gb ram.... need bf4 frames ... what do u say? i can update my pc core2duo to core2quad q6600 with 6gb ddr2 ram... what do u say keeping in view the amd heating problem which one to buyy there is a difference of 5k without RAM included on both .... http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1045T-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-810