News Bigger and cheaper SSDs are coming thanks to Samsung — chipmaker starts mass producing 280-layer QLC 9th generation V-NAND

[Admin]

Samsung has officially announced the production of its all-new 9th generation QLC V-NAND flash, which features up to 50% lower power consumption.

Bigger and cheaper SSDs are coming thanks to Samsung — chipmaker starts mass producing 280-layer QLC 9th generation V-NAND : Read more

 

[Amdlova]

Got an enterprise drive 1.92tb seagate nytro 5350 for 75us on ebay... if you want cheaper drive try find a enterprise ssd if you get luck you can find 4 and 8 tb drives same price as the desktop counterparts but will last forever.

 

[Steve Nord_]

Got an enterprise drive 1.92tb seagate nytro 5350 for 75us on ebay... if you want cheaper drive try find a enterprise ssd if you get luck you can find 4 and 8 tb drives same price as the desktop counterparts but will last forever.

Which Infiniband 4 mobo did you put it on? Heh.
Where are the good microSD coming from, old masks written seven times the size on samey tech?

 

[2Be_or_Not2Be]

FTA: "Samsung will be able to make drives nearly 50% cheaper than the highest-capacity SSDs on the market today..."

Yeah, they might be able to make them cheaper themselves, but they are NOT pricing it 50% cheaper to the market.

 

[usertests]

512-layer PLC NAND is gonna be lit

 

[Pierce2623]

FTA: "Samsung will be able to make drives nearly 50% cheaper than the highest-capacity SSDs on the market today..."

Yeah, they might be able to make them cheaper themselves, but they are NOT pricing it 50% cheaper to the market.

If they really can produce the capacity that much cheaper, it would make all the sense in the world to give slightly more capacity and speed per dollar than the competition and capture all the market volume while still having slightly better margins . Samsung can produce a TON of flash if they can sell it all.

 

[2Be_or_Not2Be]

Still waiting for Samsung to actually release a SSD with V9 TLC flash. Supposedly production began in April '24, and this QLC drive was supposed to begin this half. The TLC version should be the higher performing one, and I'm waiting to see the actual product hit the reg channels.

 

[newtechldtech]

Good ... HDD needs to die .

 

[Amdlova]

Which Infiniband 4 mobo did you put it on? Heh.
Where are the good microSD coming from, old masks written seven times the size on samey tech?

It's not the first enterprise I have purchased from ebay. I have here a toshiba 1.92tb nvme 22110 boot drive no problem "Little hot but work".
The 5350 are u.2 and u.3 compatible got an adpter on Amazon "the good one" about 44 us.
Have some other connector using the oculink to u.2 u.3 pci-e 4.0. But cheap can be pricey when cach fire

The only bad on enterprise ssd they eat alot of watts to do the job... some are compatible with power saver features like the desktop ones. Just don't use as boot drive. Or use it and break some laws

 

[scottsoapbox]

FTA: "Samsung will be able to make drives nearly 50% cheaper than the highest-capacity SSDs on the market today..."

Yeah, they might be able to make them cheaper themselves, but they are NOT pricing it 50% cheaper to the market.

Exactly. On top of that, they said it’s 50% denser but not how much more expensive it is to make.

Likely it will be 15-30% cheaper to make and of that 5-12% will make it to consumers.

 

[Stomx]

QLC = planned obsolescence​

 

[Pierce2623]

It's not the first enterprise I have purchased from ebay. I have here a toshiba 1.92tb nvme 22110 boot drive no problem "Little hot but work".
The 5350 are u.2 and u.3 compatible got an adpter on Amazon "the good one" about 44 us.
Have some other connector using the oculink to u.2 u.3 pci-e 4.0. But cheap can be pricey when cach fire

The only bad on enterprise ssd they eat alot of watts to do the job... some are compatible with power saver features like the desktop ones. Just don't use as boot drive. Or use it and break some laws

Why would any sane person want to use non-caching enterprise u.2 drive with extra adapters drive instead of a more efficient, higher performing m.2 though? I can probably buy brand new 2tb m.2s for the price of your used enterprise u.2and gain back a large portion of the TBW advantage the enterprise drive has.

 

[Heiro78]

If they really can produce the capacity that much cheaper, it would make all the sense in the world to give slightly more capacity and speed per dollar than the competition and capture all the market volume while still having slightly better margins . Samsung can produce a TON of flash if they can sell it all.

Are you aware that Samsung is a large reason why NAND and thusly SSDs have increased greatly in price since last year this time? They were signalling if not right out stating that they themselves were reducing NAND production in order. So again, while the manufacturing may be 50% cheaper, that cost savings will more than likely not be passed on to customers.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

Good ... HDD needs to die .

HDD has better medium term unpowered data retention than flash, I’d prefer to have the ability to buy one for archiving for the a good while yet.

For everyday use, SSD/NVMe is a better option purely due to the speeds offered.

 

[newtechldtech]

HDD has better medium term unpowered data retention than flash, I’d prefer to have the ability to buy one for archiving for the a good while yet.

For everyday use, SSD/NVMe is a better option purely due to the speeds offered.

in my 30 years experience I had more HDD die on me than SSD ... Actually only 2 SSD died , and I cant count how many HDD died ...

 

[Bluoper]

QLC = planned obsolesce​

Wild statement but ok.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

in my 30 years experience I had more HDD die on me than SSD ... Actually only 2 SSD died , and I cant count how many HDD died ...

I didn’t say fail… I’ve had drives from an ancient dell 200, 20MB to NVMe at 2TB, Quantum, WD, seagate, IBM/Hitachi, Samsung, Kingston, Adata. None have catastrophically failed.

I said that for the case of off line storage with no power applied I trust magnetic medium storage over silicon due to better retention characteristics.