Bitfenix Whisper M 750W VS Seasonic m12ii 750w evo

[Abdelrahman_3]

which is more stable and beter quality
(both are the same price in my country)

 

[Chugalug_]

The Whisper M is the better unit, has a better design and japanese caps over the M12II, no question in my mind that it's miles better.
What system are you trying to run?
750w is good for SLI, but for any other single card setup 550w will be the most you'll ever need.
Specs?
Budget?
Retailers?

 

[Abdelrahman_3]

The Whisper M is the better unit, has a better design and japanese caps over the M12II, no question in my mind that it's miles better.
What system are you trying to run?
750w is good for SLI, but for any other single card setup 550w will be the most you'll ever need.
Specs?
Budget?
Retailers?

right now i will get gtx 1070 but i want a 750w for any future upgrade
i5 7600k
msi z270 gamin m5

 

[Chugalug_]

As I asked, what is the budget for your overall rig and what retailers are you using?
Do you need monitor or any peripherals included?
I can get you a much better performing list even just based off that, an i7 7700 will perform much better especially given games are moving towards higher thread utilization, and it's 4.4GHz boost speeds. Getting a 7700 and B250 board will also generally cost less than a 7600k Z series setup as well.

 

[Abdelrahman_3]

As I asked, what is the budget for your overall rig and what retailers are you using?
Do you need monitor or any peripherals included?
I can get you a much better performing list even just based off that, an i7 7700 will perform much better especially given games are moving towards higher thread utilization, and it's 4.4GHz boost speeds. Getting a 7700 and B250 board will also generally cost less than a 7600k Z series setup as well.

prices in my country is different
but i think it will be at 1300-1400 $

 

[Chugalug_]

Give me local retailers and budget in local currency.
I'll make a list for you tomorrow.
12:30 here.

 

[clarkjd]

According to this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html#xtor=EPR-8886
The seasonic is a tier 2 PSU, very good quality. I can't find the Bitfenix on the list. (may not be available in the States) so I have nothing to compare.

 

[Chugalug_]

Please don't use the tier list, I always say this.
Oversimplifies a complicated thing with many different factors, take a gander on JonnyGuru if you want to learn more about them, helps heaps.

 

[clarkjd]

Please don't use the tier list, I always say this.
Oversimplifies a complicated thing with many different factors, take a gander on JonnyGuru if you want to learn more about them, helps heaps.

I've seen JonnyGuru and have great respect for his site and what he does. But even JonnyGuru doesn't have All available PSUs listed, So until I find something better, I will continue to use the list as a single point of reference.

 

[Chugalug_]

Give the unit a google, generally you'll find quite a bit of info about it.
I'm saying learn about the makings of a PSU and different components etc. from threads so you can understand the gibberish that gets listed alongside a unit when it is released, and make an assessment on it.

 

[clarkjd]

Give the unit a google, generally you'll find quite a bit of info about it.
I'm saying learn about the makings of a PSU and different components etc. from threads so you can understand the gibberish that gets listed alongside a unit when it is released, and make an assessment on it.

I don't have a problem with what you are saying about learning the ins and outs of a PSU in order to make an informed decision. But for a quick reference to the relative quality of a significant number of PSUs, I haven't found a list that is any better than the tier list. So until the list is proven to be inaccurate or just wrong, it will be the first place I'll check.Also, I try not to recommend a specific brand, I will link to the tier list and then suggest a specific tier rather than a brand, that lets the OP make his/her own decision.

 

[Chugalug_]

Not a great idea, especially given price spikes can really affect what kind of value you get out of a unit, and some are better/worse than others. The customer isn't always right.

 

[clarkjd]

Not a great idea, especially given price spikes can really affect what kind of value you get out of a unit, and some are better/worse than others. The customer isn't always right.

I agree with what you are saying.in that the customer should do his own research. But we both know that the customer doesn't do their own research, or there wouldn't be as many "Check my build", "What (PSU, GPU, CPU, ram) should I buy", "Is my build compatible", or "Will it fit?" threads created . As long as "research" means "Ask at Tom's" I will continue to make recommendations based on easily documented (and found!) sources I don't want to spend the time to do all the Google searches that the customer won't do for themselves.