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Is there anybody out there who can help me with the Starforce copyprotection
on The Black Mirror dutch edition? Game will not run at all. When clicking
the BM-starticon, Starforce looks for the code on the BM-cd 1, but will not
end this procedure. It stops responding after approx. 1/4 of the scale. Then
the pc switches to the desktop again. Looked at the Dreamcatcher website for
updates etc. and found a Starforce driver update. Installing these drivers
doesn't help, still the same problem. Re-installing the game doesn't help
either. I've played an adventure before which uses Starf***ingforce and that
game ran well.
System: Win98SE (updated); Geforce 4 MX 440 (driver 4543); Soundblaster
Live!; Asus P4B266 motherboard; Intel P4 2.0 Ghz.; Direct-X 9.0c. No ad- or
spyware infections.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Greetings, E-Cie.
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure (More info?)

E-Cie wrote:
> Is there anybody out there who can help me with the Starforce copyprotection
> on The Black Mirror dutch edition? Game will not run at all. When clicking
> the BM-starticon, Starforce looks for the code on the BM-cd 1, but will not
> end this procedure. It stops responding after approx. 1/4 of the scale. Then
> the pc switches to the desktop again. Looked at the Dreamcatcher website for
> updates etc. and found a Starforce driver update. Installing these drivers
> doesn't help, still the same problem. Re-installing the game doesn't help
> either. I've played an adventure before which uses Starf***ingforce and that
> game ran well.
> System: Win98SE (updated); Geforce 4 MX 440 (driver 4543); Soundblaster
> Live!; Asus P4B266 motherboard; Intel P4 2.0 Ghz.; Direct-X 9.0c. No ad- or
> spyware infections.
> Thanks a lot in advance.
> Greetings, E-Cie.


S**tForce probably doesn't like your CD drive.
Broken Sword 3 (the US version uses StarForce v3) would not work
with one of my drives (the quiet one). It worked on the noisy one,
but only 2/3 of time.

Another possible problem is if you have emulation software
installed. BS3 wouldn't work while I had Disk Dump installed.
I even had to go into the registry and delete a key the
Disk Dump uninstall left behind before S***Force would let me
start the game.

I don't know of a crack for the Dutch version. Gamecopyworld
has a crack for the German version, but I don't know if it
would work with the Dutch version. If you use the crack, you
first have to remove the S***Force drivers that it installs
the first time you start the game.
 
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"Jenny100" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:IpgGd.7495$C52.6707@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> E-Cie wrote:
> > Is there anybody out there who can help me with the Starforce
copyprotection
> > on The Black Mirror dutch edition? Game will not run at all. When
clicking
> > the BM-starticon, Starforce looks for the code on the BM-cd 1, but will
not
> > end this procedure. It stops responding after approx. 1/4 of the scale.
Then
> > the pc switches to the desktop again. Looked at the Dreamcatcher website
for
> > updates etc. and found a Starforce driver update. Installing these
drivers
> > doesn't help, still the same problem. Re-installing the game doesn't
help
> > either. I've played an adventure before which uses Starf***ingforce and
that
> > game ran well.
> > System: Win98SE (updated); Geforce 4 MX 440 (driver 4543); Soundblaster
> > Live!; Asus P4B266 motherboard; Intel P4 2.0 Ghz.; Direct-X 9.0c. No ad-
or
> > spyware infections.
> > Thanks a lot in advance.
> > Greetings, E-Cie.
>
>
> S**tForce probably doesn't like your CD drive.
> Broken Sword 3 (the US version uses StarForce v3) would not work
> with one of my drives (the quiet one). It worked on the noisy one,
> but only 2/3 of time.
>
> Another possible problem is if you have emulation software
> installed. BS3 wouldn't work while I had Disk Dump installed.
> I even had to go into the registry and delete a key the
> Disk Dump uninstall left behind before S***Force would let me
> start the game.
>
> I don't know of a crack for the Dutch version. Gamecopyworld
> has a crack for the German version, but I don't know if it
> would work with the Dutch version. If you use the crack, you
> first have to remove the S***Force drivers that it installs
> the first time you start the game.

Thanks Jenny for your quick response. And yes, it was BS3 i've played before
and that game ran fine on my system. I read something on the net of problems
with the new Half-life game S***force 3.0 protected?). It seems that it
cannot cope with DVD-burners. Could it be the same with BM? I installed the
game on a NEC 3500A DVD-writer and for the second time on my LiteOn LTD163
DVD-player. Can it be that i need a plain CD-Rom player to play the game?
I knew about the crack for BM and tried the English version because the
game's speach is in English (only subtitled in Dutch), and uninstalled the
S***forcedrivers before proceeding but that did not help.
Oh, and there is no emulationsoftware running on my machine (didn't think of
that!).
Greetings, E-Cie.
 
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First thing you should do is upgrade the firmware on all of your cd/dvd
drives. That will solve many of these sorts of issues, and is a good idea
anyway.

rms
 
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E-Cie wrote:
> Thanks Jenny for your quick response. And yes, it was BS3 i've played before
> and that game ran fine on my system.

But if you're in Australia, you may have had the UK version of BS3,
which uses SecuROM rather than StarForce.

> I read something on the net of problems
> with the new Half-life game S***force 3.0 protected?).

Half Life 2 uses "Steam" and online activation.

> It seems that it cannot cope with DVD-burners.
> Could it be the same with BM? I installed the
> game on a NEC 3500A DVD-writer and for the second time on my LiteOn LTD163
> DVD-player. Can it be that i need a plain CD-Rom player to play the game?

A DVD player should work, as long as it isn't a writer.
Of course there were various drives wouldn't work with it,
including some plain CD drives.

> I knew about the crack for BM and tried the English version because the
> game's speach is in English (only subtitled in Dutch), and uninstalled the
> S***forcedrivers before proceeding but that did not help.

Too bad. Maybe a firmware update would work for the DVD drive,
like RMS suggests, but I wouldn't count on it. Good luck though.

> Oh, and there is no emulationsoftware running on my machine
> (didn't think of that!).

Nero? Some copy "protections" don't like newer versions of
Nero because they include a drive imager.

> Greetings, E-Cie.
>
>
 
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"Jenny100" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:AcGGd.8715$C52.3776@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> E-Cie wrote:
> > Thanks Jenny for your quick response. And yes, it was BS3 i've played
before
> > and that game ran fine on my system.
>
> But if you're in Australia, you may have had the UK version of BS3,
> which uses SecuROM rather than StarForce.
>
I lived in the Netherlands then, and still do 🙂

> > I read something on the net of problems
> > with the new Half-life game S***force 3.0 protected?).
>
> Half Life 2 uses "Steam" and online activation.
>
> > It seems that it cannot cope with DVD-burners.
> > Could it be the same with BM? I installed the
> > game on a NEC 3500A DVD-writer and for the second time on my LiteOn
LTD163
> > DVD-player. Can it be that i need a plain CD-Rom player to play the
game?
>
> A DVD player should work, as long as it isn't a writer.
> Of course there were various drives wouldn't work with it,
> including some plain CD drives.
>
> > I knew about the crack for BM and tried the English version because the
> > game's speach is in English (only subtitled in Dutch), and uninstalled
the
> > S***forcedrivers before proceeding but that did not help.
>
> Too bad. Maybe a firmware update would work for the DVD drive,
> like RMS suggests, but I wouldn't count on it. Good luck though.
>
I have updated the firmware of my DVD-Rom player but is doesn't solve the
problem....:-((

> > Oh, and there is no emulationsoftware running on my machine
> > (didn't think of that!).
>
> Nero? Some copy "protections" don't like newer versions of
> Nero because they include a drive imager.
>
Nero 6 Enterprise Edition runs on my machine. Could it be that bad then?
Well, i will go on with my "little quest". Thanks a lot all of you for
responding!
Greetings, E-Cie.
 
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One more suggestion. Disable Cryptographic Services in WinXP Services. As
I recall, this solved a similar problem with RealMyst installations.

rms
 
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"rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net> schreef in bericht
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> One more suggestion. Disable Cryptographic Services in WinXP Services.
As
> I recall, this solved a similar problem with RealMyst installations.
>
> rms
>
Your suggestion is welcome, but my machine uses Win98SE, i wrote that in my
OP. Thanks anyway though!
 
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"E-Cie" <WUFX@shutup.au> schreef in bericht
news:csc1lh$rc8$1@reader13.wxs.nl...
> Is there anybody out there who can help me with the Starforce
copyprotection
> on The Black Mirror dutch edition? Game will not run at all. When clicking
> the BM-starticon, Starforce looks for the code on the BM-cd 1, but will
not
> end this procedure. It stops responding after approx. 1/4 of the scale.
Then
> the pc switches to the desktop again. Looked at the Dreamcatcher website
for
> updates etc. and found a Starforce driver update. Installing these drivers
> doesn't help, still the same problem. Re-installing the game doesn't help
> either. I've played an adventure before which uses Starf***ingforce and
that
> game ran well.
> System: Win98SE (updated); Geforce 4 MX 440 (driver 4543); Soundblaster
> Live!; Asus P4B266 motherboard; Intel P4 2.0 Ghz.; Direct-X 9.0c. No ad-
or
> spyware infections.
> Thanks a lot in advance.
> Greetings, E-Cie.
>

Well, after a long correspondence with Easy Computing (the company that
releases BM in Belgium and The Netherlands) they came with the solution that
i should send the game to them, so they could try to find out what is wrong
with it. Before i did, i replaced my LiteOn DVD-Rom player with a (new)
LiteOn CD-Rom player. And YES! EUREKA! The game runs fine now (as long
as....). I thought you wanted to know, just in case....
And now i will try to get a refund for installing new hardware just to run a
game... ;-)
Thanks to all for your help anyway.
Greetings, E-Cie
 
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