blood moon

[Phil]

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A friend of mine played in a tourament for the first time last week
and had a red deck among which 2 blood moons.
He hoped to play these to convert everyones lands to mountains and
thus stop people playing any other colour than red or artifact. He
also assumed that this would turn none standard land into mountains.
When it came to stopping affinity and artifact lands he was told that
it did not stop that land from being artifact land. He is not
convinced of that and so asked me to ask the question here.
What are the limits of this card ?

 

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On Sat, 1 May 2004, Phil wrote:

> A friend of mine played in a tourament for the first time last week
> and had a red deck among which 2 blood moons.
> He hoped to play these to convert everyones lands to mountains and
> thus stop people playing any other colour than red or artifact. He
> also assumed that this would turn none standard land into mountains.
> When it came to stopping affinity and artifact lands he was told that
> it did not stop that land from being artifact land. He is not
> convinced of that and so asked me to ask the question here.
> What are the limits of this card ?
>

Blood Moon sets the subtype of nonbasic lands. By setting the subtype
it removes all other subtype. By setting it to 'Mountain' it removes
al abilities from the lands grants the ability
"{T}: Add {R} to you mana pool.".
Artifact lands are artifact because the have type artifact, this is
neither a subtype nor an ability so Artifact Lands will stay
artifacts.

David

 

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On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:27:45 GMT, Phil <phil@giltharn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>A friend of mine played in a tourament for the first time last week
>and had a red deck among which 2 blood moons.
>He hoped to play these to convert everyones lands to mountains and
>thus stop people playing any other colour than red or artifact. He
>also assumed that this would turn none standard land into mountains.
>When it came to stopping affinity and artifact lands he was told that
>it did not stop that land from being artifact land.

Right. It gives them land type "mountain"; this removes any other -land- type
they had, takes away their normal text, and replaces it with "Tap: Add R to
your mana pool". It doesn't change their -permanent- type at all - if they
were an artifact land before they are an artifact land now, if they were a
land creature artifact before they still will be, etc. It doesn't change their
_name_ either; an Ancient Den affected by Blood Moon won't be _named_ Mountain.

>He is not
>convinced of that and so asked me to ask the question here.
>What are the limits of this card ?

It affects nonbasic lands - any that aren't named Swamp, Mountain, Forest,
Island, Plains, or the Snow-Covered versions thereof - and gives them the
basic land type "mountain", which affects them as above. 212.6e in the rulebook
outlines this.

Dave
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On Sun, 1 May 2004, David DeLaney wrote:

<about blood moon>
>
> It affects nonbasic lands - any that aren't named Swamp, Mountain,
> Forest, Island, Plains, or the Snow-Covered versions thereof - and
> gives them the basic land type "mountain", which affects them as
> above. 212.6e in the rulebook outlines this.

Isn't being nonbasic determined by not having the Basic supertype?
Of course this currently is the same but it could change...

David

 

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On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:19:54 +0200, David de Kloet <dskloet@cs.vu.nl> wrote:
>On Sun, 1 May 2004, David DeLaney wrote:
><about blood moon>
>> It affects nonbasic lands - any that aren't named Swamp, Mountain,
>> Forest, Island, Plains, or the Snow-Covered versions thereof - and
>> gives them the basic land type "mountain", which affects them as
>> above. 212.6e in the rulebook outlines this.
>
>Isn't being nonbasic determined by not having the Basic supertype?

Yes.

>Of course this currently is the same but it could change...

Yep. At present it's easier conceptually to list off what is a basic
land - because there's only ten of them - than just to say "if it says
Basic Land" ... partly because _none_ of the basic lands from BEFORE 8E/
Mirrodin _say_ that on them. And since nothing can currently change whether
a land is basic, ones that start basic stay basic and contrariwise...

Dave
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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