Blu-ray is Penetrating the Market

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malveaux

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Lol. First.

Clearly, so many people care about Bluray. The unfortunate thing is that if you watch a Bluray from 15 feet away, you're not going to see much difference compared to a normal DVD. Bluray is higher quality, for sure, but only at closer distances can the eye actually use that higher res. It's nice for LARGER screen size TVs. It's still not there yet, at least, not for the cost.
 

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I have a 7.2 flagship sound system, a 96 inch Screen using a Benq W5000 1080P DLP projector and you know what..

All my HD DVD's have better image quality then the Blu-ray.. why is this? not sure why. I bought a high quality 150 dollar HDMI cable from thesource for this Blu-ray player and still, image isn't as sharp as the HD-DVD.

When you have a 96 inch screen at 1080p/24 and can look at the fine details, HD-DVD was better in terms of quality. Too bad they didn't make it.
 
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I would check your player, I have ripped both bluray and HD-DVD titles and in nearly every case where the film was released in both formats the image quality is *identical* some early BD releases using the MPEG2 codec were awful, but the new releases use the exact same compression as HD-DVD, so I reckon your BD player has issues or isn't setup correctly. Make sure you projector is set to 1:1 mapping as well.
 

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Bluray was obviously going to penetrate the market eventually. the question was more of "when?" rather than "will it?" so therefore this is not news.

the 2 things holding it back were price and HD-DVD competition. the latter is gone, so now its just a matter of how fast the price can drop on Bluray.
 

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[citation][nom]sacre[/nom]I have a 7.2 flagship sound system.
I bought a high quality 150 dollar HDMI cable from thesource for this Blu-ray player and still.[/citation]

What is a "Flagship sound system" any who? You show me some content in 7.1 or 7.2 from what i know the majority of content (including BD) is all 5.1...

Did the salesman tell you to buy a HDMI cable worth $150? You got ripped off HDMI signals are in digtal so you will either get a signal or you wont its not like analogue connections/cables that can be plagued with interference.

I agree with malveaux. And the fact that those numbers are inflated by PS3 sales would mean a drop so the comparison of DVD or even less.
 

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I'm sure there are others out there like myself who primarily bought the PS3 for its blu ray capabilities and gaming secondary. Those numbers are probably a bit inaccurate, but probably not as much as some of you think.

As for HDMI, I went with aapl's brand and don't have any problems with quality so far. My view distance is around 13' and is a noticeable improvement over reg. DVD. I would imagine blu ray will get even better, especially since its competition is dead.
 

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Well they are finally getting so real HD content so its not all that surprising. I'm still not going to bother until Lord of the Rings is released. I want to see if recording it in HD was worth it.
 

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10.7 million Blu-ray players in the US. Just over 7 million are accounted for via PS3. So less than 4 million stand alone Blu-ray players.

That's compared to 5.4 million DVD players that didn't have a trojan horse gaming console in the same time period.

Is that really brag worthy? Sure, I guess if you just look at the numbers but numbers without context tell no tales.
 

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Sure it is, alot of people look at it from the perspective of having a blu-ray play with a built in game console/media server. I think the ps3 is the best blu-ray player out there, and I mostly use it for blu-ray and being a media port. At the time it was either buy a 399$ ps3 or a 399$ stand-alone player. Only a moron wouldn't take the ps3. Not to mention it is still one of the fastest players on the market.
 

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I read an article a few months back that rated the PS3 as the #1 BD player on the market by far - so I am sure there are many people who said "for $100, I might as well add a game console to my BD player".

I also wonder if these numbers count people like me who bought a BD burner for my computer and use it also as my player.

As for the HD difference - I have a little old 42" LCD HDTV that I use at about a 6.5' distance from couch to screen. I can tell you HD TV channels AND BDs have a significant quality difference. Sure, if I take my glasses off, my DVD and BD of Bladerunner may look the same - but with my poorly corrected vision I can easily see a huge difference in image quality. Sorry, I just don't believe people who say "there really is no difference" - maybe for you, but my experience tells me otherwise. (Then again, I've never detected a difference between 5.1 and 7.1 sound systems - but my hearing sucks also. Heck, getting old just sucks.)
 

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MDilenbeck, you're not likely to detect much difference in 5.1 and 7.1 sound regardless of your hearing. There is very little actual 7.1 source material so most sound is still in a 5.1 mix. Few sounds behind the camera are recorded to take use of the rear speakers anyway because most events in a movie are in your viewing range directly in front of you.

7.1 works best for very large living rooms with plenty of space behind your couch or for small auditoriums. In the average sized living room, 7.1 will not provide a sound experience that 5.1 does not already provide. And for the record, 5.1 and 7.1 have no bearing on the actual quality of the sound. It relates to the number of speakers only.

Blu-ray certainly does have a picture quality advantage over DVD so it's not in the same circumstance as 7.1 audio. However, the smaller your TV, the less noticeable that benefit becomes. So if anyone is still rocking a 13" Emerson, stick to DVD.
 

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[citation][nom]chookman[/nom]What is a "Flagship sound system" any who? You show me some content in 7.1 or 7.2 from what i know the majority of content (including BD) is all 5.1...Did the salesman tell you to buy a HDMI cable worth $150? You got ripped off HDMI signals are in digtal so you will either get a signal or you wont its not like analogue connections/cables that can be plagued with interference.I agree with malveaux. And the fact that those numbers are inflated by PS3 sales would mean a drop so the comparison of DVD or even less.[/citation]

Cable does matter, the amount of data slipping through that cable requires a good clean signal to get the best out of it.
I was just trying to explain the thing i did to even try and milk the best quality out of bu-ray but again, it was good quality but my HD-DVD player pumped out a bit more quality, the faces/rock/background were so defined, a tad more then the Blu-ray.

Since Blu-ray doesn't have competition anymore, movie producers don't have to use the larger 50GB discs for higher quality because..really, whos going to compare when a huge majority only has blu-ray?

As for my sound system http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?id=HTDDW7000#

Basically all i'm saying is when you expand the 1080P screen to 100 inches, you can see a difference.. Or its my Blu-ray player that isn't pumping out what is needed, either way its a bit frustrating. All companies imo need a form of competition.
 
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yawn. I'll keep my Roku Netflix box and skip BluRay altogether...
 
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