Question Brand new gaming PC: huge lag all the time during visual effects ?

Dec 15, 2023
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So I just bought a brand new gaming laptop that should be pretty good, but it's worse than my old laptop, and I have no clue why. I need some help.

Original State
- 11 year old laptop, bought for webbrowsing & microsoft office. Nothing special.
- Plays game perfectly.
The games I play: Entropia Universe & Dota2
Never had any issues with either of them. That pc easily ran both. Even with tons of windows & tabs of edge open & multiple excel windows. No issue for that old poor laptop.
So I'd say that the games aren't that demanding.


Current State
- Brand new gaming laptop: MSI Raider GE78HX 13VH-255BE
- Clean install. Nothing installed on it except the factory tools from MSI, Geforce,..) and those 2 games.

Processor: Intel Core i9
Cores: Tetracosa core (24)
Speed: 2.2 GHz
Turbo Speed: 5.5 GHz
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB)
Disk: 2TB SSD (1 disk)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (12GB memory)
Cache: 36MB
OS: Windows 11


Issue
Even though my 11 year old laptop runs these 2 games very smoothly, this brand new gaming laptop seems to have huge issues with them:
- Dota 2: Every time someone uses a skill with a lot of visual graphics, my screen gets stuck for 10 seconds. During teamfights, when multiple people use skills, I often find my screen being stuck for over a minute, resulting in seeing myself dead or seeing my team having won the fight without me.
- Entropia Universe: When pressing buttons to move, very often the keys are "sticking". (they're not really sticky, it's a brand new laptop, but what I mean is that the action happens with a delay, but then suddenly it keeps happening. For example, I press left side 2 seconds, nothing happens for the first 3 seconds, but then suddenly my avatar moves to the left for 20 seconds long). While typing in the chat, very often the game stops writing my chat, and then like 20-30seconds later, the text starts coming on there, but character by character, very slowly.



What I already did
- Thought it would be a driver issue, so I updated all my drivers
- Updating drivers didn't help, so I tried using DDU to uninstall all drivers, and reinstall them
- I checked if it was maybe lag caused by WIFI: ping to google constantly between 8 and 14. Old laptop not having any issues at that same time as the new laptop is lagging.
- Checked the monitoring of RAM, CPU usage,... All staying in low %, even during lag moments
- Contacted MSI Support: they mentioned that it sounds like a motherboard defect, they gave me a new laptop. Got it since yesterday... Same issues!!!


Please help me out, I'm really annoyed by the fact that a so called beast of a gaming laptop can't even run old games that my 11 year old laptop runs smoothly.
 
to have a look what the problem could be:
run userbenchmark.com and post the http link of your result, e.g. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/28977730

Reset the BIOS by jumper clrCMOS or JBAT or similar (eventually you will have to set the boot priority correctly after that)

check windows integrity
open the command prompt as administrator and type DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-open-an-elevated-command-prompt-2618088
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...em-files/bc609315-da1f-4775-812c-695b60477a93


clean boot
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/929135/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows


check the memory by running memtest.org usb autoinstaller (bootable USB flash drive)


check the hard drive for errors with its manufacturer´s tool and if available, update the firmware

use ddu uninstaller and reinstall the latest graphics driver
 
I've literally just done another factory reset, and updated the drivers, all that has happened so far and just done the userbenchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66465729

The fact Graphics are in red & are extremely low % makes me worry a lot. This is supposed to be a top class gaming laptop, so this looks really wrong.


If I'm correct though, the laptop has 2 different video cards, 1 onboard & 1 dedicated. I have the feeling that it's using the onboard one though, instead of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080. At least that's what it says here in the test (Intel UHD Graphics), but I feel like this also happens with games.
 
I've tried disabling the onboard graphics card, so that it would in fact use the dedicated 1.
Another run now gives me the following run:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66466052


Is it normal that it doesn't show graphics at all now? And that it shows GPU missing?
Also, during the test, it said max FPS was 13, mostly on 1. That looked quite weird. I have the feeling there is an issue with the graphics card. (Which I already assumed at the start, which is why I had posted in the Graphics Card section of the forum, but apparently the topic was replaced to Laptop Tech Support)
 
I think I may have found out :)
I found a setting in my NVIDIA configuration panel which is the prefered graphics card.

It was currently set at "automatic selection".
I changed it to the NVIDIA processor and I retried the benchmark with a much better result:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66466348

Hopefully this will also fix the issues I was having in games. I guess the selection didn't expect the NVIDIA processor was needed, as the games are a bit older already, and it probably kept using the integrated graphics card for those 2 games.
I'll update the topic in the next few days with a result if I'm still having the performance issues or not.
 
Nope, it didn't help at all. Still extremely bad PC.

I tried installing FRAPS and playing DotA2 again. Almost every teamfight, my FPS apparently drops to 1. and screen is stuck for 10-20 seconds.So changing to NVIDIA didn't help at all.
Please help me out, I have no clue what to do, this feels like 3500 euro in the garbage, cause this laptop is worse than my freaking 11 year old laptop that was only bought for browsing and office tools...