Broke? lol

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LOL $6 Million in Debt... Left game on overnight making mil 🙁
Below's a complete output of my nation (after demobilizing all my mil)

-GNUb (lvl 4 fodder)


NATION
=========
(#2) GNUb Nation Report Thu May 13 09:45:56 2004
Nation status is ACTIVE Bureaucratic Time Units: 555
100% eff capital at 0,0 has 999 civilians & 0 military
The treasury has $-5852317.00 Military reserves: 33996
Education.......... 0.00 Happiness....... 0.00
Technology......... 0.00 Research........ 0.00
Technology factor : 25.00% Plague factor : 0.00%

BUDGET
=========
Max population : 999
Max safe population for civs/uws: 768/868
No happiness needed

Sector Type Abbr Production Priority Cost
Military payroll 824 mil, 33996 res 21121
Capital maintenance 1 capital 60
Total expenses.....................................................21181
Income from taxes 71928 civs, 1998 uws +36142
Total income......................................................+36142
Balance forward -5852317
Estimated delta +14961
Estimated new treasury..........................................-5837356
After processsing sectors, you will be broke!
Sectors will not produce, distribute, or deliver!

POWER NEW
=========
- = [ Empire Power Report ] = -
as of Thu May 13 09:46:33 2004

sects eff civ mil shell gun pet iron dust oil pln ship unit money
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
worldwide 70 100% 72K 850 0 0 0 162K 5.7K 63K 0 0 0 -6M

REPORT
======
Thu May 13 09:47:29 2004
# name tech research education happiness status
2 GNUb 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Broke

PRODUCTION SUMMARY
==================
ITEM ON HAND MAKING USING DELTA LEFT THRSHLD EXCESS
food 1,100 0 120
iron 161,544 54,144
lcm 44,391 0 14,400
hcm 5,691 0 14,400
dust 5,672 8,848 85,055
bar 14,350 0
gun 0 0
shell 0 0
oil 63,184 3,483 15,750
pet 0 0
mil 825 7,200
rad 0 0
civ 71,928 0 71,928
uw 1,998 0 0

MAP

1111---------000000000011111
3210987654321012345678901234
-5 . . . . . . . . . . -5
-4 . . . . . . . . . . . -4
-3 . . . . . e . . . e . -3
-2 . . . . + + k k . . + . -2
-1 . . . . . e k k m k k + . -1
0 . . . . . . c k m k k k . . 0
1 . . . . . e k m m m m k e . 1
2 . . e k k m m m m m k k . . 2
3 . + + + k w m m m k m k . . 3
4 e . . . . + m k k m k . . . 4
5 . . . . . + k + . k k . . . 5
6 . . . . + + k + + k e . . . 6
7 . . . . e . + + e . . . . . 7
8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
1111---------000000000011111
3210987654321012345678901234

 

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Thanks for posting this - now I'll just come on over and assault with a sub.

Mil farm???

"GNUb" <KingZemus@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94E879B338302KingZemusJunocom@195.131.52.135...
> [posted and mailed]
>
> LOL $6 Million in Debt... Left game on overnight making mil 🙁
> Below's a complete output of my nation (after demobilizing all my mil)
>
> -GNUb (lvl 4 fodder)
>
>
> NATION
> =========
> (#2) GNUb Nation Report Thu May 13 09:45:56 2004
> Nation status is ACTIVE Bureaucratic Time Units: 555
> 100% eff capital at 0,0 has 999 civilians & 0 military
> The treasury has $-5852317.00 Military reserves: 33996
> Education.......... 0.00 Happiness....... 0.00
> Technology......... 0.00 Research........ 0.00
> Technology factor : 25.00% Plague factor : 0.00%
>
> BUDGET
> =========
> Max population : 999
> Max safe population for civs/uws: 768/868
> No happiness needed
>
> Sector Type Abbr Production Priority Cost
> Military payroll 824 mil, 33996 res 21121
> Capital maintenance 1 capital 60
> Total expenses.....................................................21181
> Income from taxes 71928 civs, 1998 uws +36142
> Total income......................................................+36142
> Balance forward -5852317
> Estimated delta +14961
> Estimated new treasury..........................................-5837356
> After processsing sectors, you will be broke!
> Sectors will not produce, distribute, or deliver!
>
> POWER NEW
> =========
> - = [ Empire Power Report ] = -
> as of Thu May 13 09:46:33 2004
>
> sects eff civ mil shell gun pet iron dust oil pln ship unit
money
> ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
> worldwide 70 100% 72K 850 0 0 0 162K 5.7K 63K 0 0
0 -6M
>
> REPORT
> ======
> Thu May 13 09:47:29 2004
> # name tech research education happiness
status
> 2 GNUb 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Broke
>
> PRODUCTION SUMMARY
> ==================
> ITEM ON HAND MAKING USING DELTA LEFT THRSHLD EXCESS
> food 1,100 0 120
> iron 161,544 54,144
> lcm 44,391 0 14,400
> hcm 5,691 0 14,400
> dust 5,672 8,848 85,055
> bar 14,350 0
> gun 0 0
> shell 0 0
> oil 63,184 3,483 15,750
> pet 0 0
> mil 825 7,200
> rad 0 0
> civ 71,928 0 71,928
> uw 1,998 0 0
>
> MAP
>
> 1111---------000000000011111
> 3210987654321012345678901234
> -5 . . . . . . . . . . -5
> -4 . . . . . . . . . . . -4
> -3 . . . . . e . . . e . -3
> -2 . . . . + + k k . . + . -2
> -1 . . . . . e k k m k k + . -1
> 0 . . . . . . c k m k k k . . 0
> 1 . . . . . e k m m m m k e . 1
> 2 . . e k k m m m m m k k . . 2
> 3 . + + + k w m m m k m k . . 3
> 4 e . . . . + m k k m k . . . 4
> 5 . . . . . + k + . k k . . . 5
> 6 . . . . + + k + + k e . . . 6
> 7 . . . . e . + + e . . . . . 7
> 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
> 1111---------000000000011111
> 3210987654321012345678901234

 

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GNUb wrote:
> [posted and mailed]
>
> LOL $6 Million in Debt... Left game on overnight making mil 🙁
> Below's a complete output of my nation (after demobilizing all my mil)

so how many updates to get back to zeo??

>
> -GNUb (lvl 4 fodder)
>
>
> NATION
> =========
> (#2) GNUb Nation Report Thu May 13 09:45:56 2004
> Nation status is ACTIVE Bureaucratic Time Units: 555
> 100% eff capital at 0,0 has 999 civilians & 0 military
> The treasury has $-5852317.00 Military reserves: 33996
> Education.......... 0.00 Happiness....... 0.00
> Technology......... 0.00 Research........ 0.00
> Technology factor : 25.00% Plague factor : 0.00%
>
> BUDGET
> =========
> Max population : 999
> Max safe population for civs/uws: 768/868
> No happiness needed
>
> Sector Type Abbr Production Priority Cost
> Military payroll 824 mil, 33996 res 21121
> Capital maintenance 1 capital 60
> Total expenses.....................................................21181
> Income from taxes 71928 civs, 1998 uws +36142
> Total income......................................................+36142
> Balance forward -5852317
> Estimated delta +14961

do the math ...5,850,000 / 14900 +/-

about 390 updates give or take

now the lesson here is look up at your miitary payroll, you created
34000 reservists that are costing you $20000 an update

so, if you had demobilized without creating reserves, you could start to
play in 167 updates

more comments at the end

> Estimated new treasury..........................................-5837356
> After processsing sectors, you will be broke!
> Sectors will not produce, distribute, or deliver!
>
> POWER NEW
> =========
> - = [ Empire Power Report ] = -
> as of Thu May 13 09:46:33 2004
>
> sects eff civ mil shell gun pet iron dust oil pln ship unit money
> ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
> worldwide 70 100% 72K 850 0 0 0 162K 5.7K 63K 0 0 0 -6M
>
> REPORT
> ======
> Thu May 13 09:47:29 2004
> # name tech research education happiness status
> 2 GNUb 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Broke
>
> PRODUCTION SUMMARY
> ==================
> ITEM ON HAND MAKING USING DELTA LEFT THRSHLD EXCESS
> food 1,100 0 120
> iron 161,544 54,144
> lcm 44,391 0 14,400
> hcm 5,691 0 14,400
> dust 5,672 8,848 85,055
> bar 14,350 0
> gun 0 0
> shell 0 0
> oil 63,184 3,483 15,750
> pet 0 0
> mil 825 7,200
> rad 0 0
> civ 71,928 0 71,928
> uw 1,998 0 0
>
> MAP
>
> 1111---------000000000011111
> 3210987654321012345678901234
> -5 . . . . . . . . . . -5
> -4 . . . . . . . . . . . -4
> -3 . . . . . e . . . e . -3
> -2 . . . . + + k k . . + . -2
> -1 . . . . . e k k m k k + . -1
> 0 . . . . . . c k m k k k . . 0
> 1 . . . . . e k m m m m k e . 1
> 2 . . e k k m m m m m k k . . 2
> 3 . + + + k w m m m k m k . . 3
> 4 e . . . . + m k k m k . . . 4
> 5 . . . . . + k + . k k . . . 5
> 6 . . . . + + k + + k e . . . 6
> 7 . . . . e . + + e . . . . . 7
> 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
> 1111---------000000000011111
> 3210987654321012345678901234

your prod summary says you have 14350 bars but there is no interest
income and I see no bank on your map, did you redes it to an e or a k or +?

If you would have HAD your bank, your balance would have gotten above
zero in about 24 updates...4 hours of changeling real time, a bit of a
difference

no comments on why all k's and no j's at this time

and in the future, if your initial capital is on a coast, go through the
exercise of moving it inland so that someone's submarine doesn't come up
and plant a new flag on your island

 

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I couldn't redesignate my land because I was broke. 🙁
Otherwise I would have, it was too late once I got back on. The game's
already reset, but I just dissolved and restarted anew... I didn't feel bad
about a 2nd country since I dissolved the first and I had no opponents.

I'd love any advice/suggestions/hints that anyone has on gameplay. (I have
read all the guides/FAQs in info and on any sites linked on wolfpack. If
ANYONE has an Instant Messenger, please, please, please send me an e-mail
at either the public one that shows up or my primary one at Juno.com (same
username) It would make things so much easier if I could talk to someone
realtime instead of telegram (when someone just happens to be logged in to
the empire sever) or newsgroups (where replies take hours) I'm sure I could
learn an enormous amount in very little time that way. Also, if anyone has
suggestions on how to start out the first few turns / sector designation
ratios to maintain, I'm open to that.

-GNUb (lvl 4 fodder)


grhunSPAM@NOyahoo.com wrote in news:40A4BBD7.5070800@NOyahoo.com:
>
>
> GNUb wrote:
>> [posted and mailed]
>>
>> LOL $6 Million in Debt... Left game on overnight making mil 🙁
>> Below's a complete output of my nation (after demobilizing all my
>> mil)
>
> so how many updates to get back to zeo??
>
>>
>> -GNUb (lvl 4 fodder)
>>
>>
>> NATION
>> =========
>> (#2) GNUb Nation Report Thu May 13 09:45:56 2004
>> Nation status is ACTIVE Bureaucratic Time Units: 555
>> 100% eff capital at 0,0 has 999 civilians & 0 military
>> The treasury has $-5852317.00 Military reserves: 33996
>> Education.......... 0.00 Happiness....... 0.00
>> Technology......... 0.00 Research........ 0.00
>> Technology factor : 25.00% Plague factor : 0.00%
>>
>> BUDGET
>> =========
>> Max population : 999
>> Max safe population for civs/uws: 768/868
>> No happiness needed
>>
>> Sector Type Abbr Production Priority Cost
>> Military payroll 824 mil, 33996 res 21121
>> Capital maintenance 1 capital 60
>> Total
>> expenses.....................................................21181
>> Income from taxes 71928 civs, 1998 uws +36142
>> Total
>> income......................................................+36142
>> Balance forward -5852317
>> Estimated delta +14961
>
> do the math ...5,850,000 / 14900 +/-
>
> about 390 updates give or take
>
> now the lesson here is look up at your miitary payroll, you created
> 34000 reservists that are costing you $20000 an update
>
> so, if you had demobilized without creating reserves, you could start
> to play in 167 updates
>
> more comments at the end
>
>
> your prod summary says you have 14350 bars but there is no interest
> income and I see no bank on your map, did you redes it to an e or a k
> or +?
>
> If you would have HAD your bank, your balance would have gotten above
> zero in about 24 updates...4 hours of changeling real time, a bit of a
> difference
>
> no comments on why all k's and no j's at this time
>
> and in the future, if your initial capital is on a coast, go through
> the exercise of moving it inland so that someone's submarine doesn't
> come up and plant a new flag on your island
>
>