[SOLVED] BSOD of deth. Windows 10.

Feb 15, 2020
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Fairly new PC.
Everything was working fine and dandy but one day I started having BSOD
minidumps attached
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag1chEoH3kUkaSOs62LzE-d_o8s?e=gFaxJl
I ran disk check
I ran memory check
Updated all drivers I could, both manually and then with Driver Booster 7 and Nvidia.
Scanned my PC for viruses.
Those blue screen seem to appear randomly, sometimes one a day, sometimes once 2 days, sometimes twice in the same day.
I can get blue screen while watching youtube and NOT get it while playing with 200 fps rainbow 6 siege.
What more can I do? please help.

Edit. Sometimes I get my headset to "lag" or "stutter" can it be the culprit ?
Edit 2 I ran memtest86 for 3 lapses if I remember right, found no errors.
 
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Solution
  1. Always make a new installer as the newest version includes all the changes from the earlier ones - download the Windows 10 media creation tool and use it to make a win 10 installer on USB
  2. Well, yes. See - https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/motherboard-driver-apps.3559392/
  3. If its a clean install, you shouldn't need this. Especially if all software in 2 is all your downloaded so far.
  4. System restore is the last line of defence and tbh the times I did run it (apart from after Driver booster) never really helped fix problem. Its better to have backups, and if possible 2 hdd, so all your data is stored on 2nd hdd and a clean install just wastes time.

Fingers crossed :)

I find staying awake to solve a...

gardenman

Splendid
Moderator
Hi, I ran the dump files through the debugger and got the following information: https://handsomermayfly.htmlpasta.com/
File information:021520-8656-01.dmp (Feb 15 2020 - 14:31:14)
Bugcheck:IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (A)
Probably caused by:memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 5 Hour(s), 01 Min(s), and 27 Sec(s)

File information:021420-6359-01.dmp (Feb 14 2020 - 14:35:09)
Bugcheck:DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (C4)
Driver warnings:*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for RzDev_0214.sys
Probably caused by:RzDev_0214.sys (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 00 Min(s), and 25 Sec(s)

File information:021420-6343-01.dmp (Feb 14 2020 - 14:53:46)
Bugcheck:DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (C4)
Driver warnings:*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for RzDev_0214.sys
Probably caused by:RzDev_0214.sys (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 00 Min(s), and 28 Sec(s)

File information:021420-6265-01.dmp (Feb 14 2020 - 14:06:31)
Bugcheck:DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (C4)
Driver warnings:*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for aswSnx.sys
Probably caused by:aswSnx.sys (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 00 Min(s), and 05 Sec(s)

File information:021420-5703-01.dmp (Feb 14 2020 - 14:19:36)
Bugcheck:DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (C4)
Driver warnings:*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for RzDev_0214.sys
Probably caused by:RzDev_0214.sys (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 00 Min(s), and 22 Sec(s)
One of the crashes was caused by Avast. The aswSnx.sys file is a part of Avast anti-virus. You have a few choices: 1. Make sure you have the latest updates for Avast and Windows. 2. Uninstall and re-install Avast. 3. Uninstall Avast (at least temporarily until we figure out why you are crashing). The Avast homepage can be found here: https://www.avast.com/

3 other crashes were caused by your Razer drivers. Update them if possible.

Possible Motherboard page: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK
There is a BIOS update available for your system. You are using version 1.C and the latest is 1.D. Wait for additional information before deciding to update or not. Important: Verify that I have linked to the correct motherboard. Updating your BIOS can be risky. Never try it when you might lose power (lightning storms, recent power outages, etc).

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Feb 6, 2020
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One immediate question, since this makes up the majority of BugChecks: why is Driver Verifier running? DV is a driver testing utility built into Windows that stress-tests drivers for a large number of crash conditions. It can cause poor system response time but its primary purpose is forcing drivers to crash, hence why it has it's own STOP codes.
 
Feb 15, 2020
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Tank you for responding.
I had BSOD before I installed avast.
I already removed Ryzer driver from my PC
I was running DV becouse I read somewhere that it can point me to the right problem.
Im the most interested in the latest dumb from 15/2/2020. That was without DV running.
I will look into BIOS update.
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
Moderator
Dv runs all the time, in the background.

Do you use WIFI? or Ethernet? Your ethernet drivers may have a newer version on MSI website but these should too -
Oct 22 2018rtwlane.sysRealtek PCI-E Wireless LAN NIC NDIS driver
I would upgrade these - what wireless card are you using?

Sure, avast crashes but a lot of time its lan drivers in background
 
Feb 15, 2020
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Im using WIFI
TP link PCI Wireless Adapter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0036AFAEW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
this is the specific one I bought.
Im not much concern about DV, It only crashed due to ryzer driver, and I uninstalled it.
Avast might be part of the issue, but I installed it after I started getting BSOD. To scan for viruses.
So avast cant be the couse of all my trouble. Ill update the driver you mentioned, thank you for help.
Had another BSOD, Included dump it in the one drive.
EDIT used driver hub. Updated 10 drivers. That broke my Keyboard and Mouse drivers.
Headphones and USB worked fine, had to troubleshoot to fix the problem ( dunno if this info is any usefull but better then nothing, i can always delete it later )
 
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Colif

Win 11 Master
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have to assume drivers installed are from Microsoft as they are newer than the ones on TP website - https://www.tp-link.com/au/support/download/tl-wn781nd/#Driver

difficult to find any newer. Many are relabelled LAN drivers.. not the same thing. or Win 8 drivers...

TP-Link TL-WN781ND WLAN PCI-E Adapter (150Mbits/s, Windows 8.x / Vista / 7 / XP) given it likely is using win 8 drivers.

See how you go but you might need a new WIfi card soon or at least one that lists win 10 drivers.
 
Feb 15, 2020
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The driver doesnt detect my adapter, even through I am currently connected with it to the internet...

PS Out of curiosity I ran Driver Hub Again, It broke my Keyboard,Mouse and headphones. Had to use system restore, becouse system repair failed. DONT USE DRIVER HUB.
EDIT ran driver booster again, it seems to update everything.
1 Adapter driver is from 2018.
2 Realtek PCIe is from 2019
I dont unterstand why it didnt update them beforehand.
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
Moderator
Is that the same as Driver Booster 6 as I was going to mention this - Don't use 3rd party driver programs, they can and will install wrong drivers. Only advantage to DB is it creates a system restore point before breaking things... I have used it before but it broke things 2 times and that was enough.

Especially on an MSI Motherboard that offers Live update 6 (Look in utilities - https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK#down-driver&Win10 64 ) although it doesn't help with add on cards like your wifi.

Razer doesn't need much help breaking. I actually avoid Razer gear because of synapse.
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
Moderator
download and run this - all it does is shows what drivers are running
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/driverview.html
when you run it, go into View and set it to hide all Microsoft drivers, will make list way shorter

I am just curious what driver number you are on. I can then search it and see what its from. The adapter driver from 2018.

Updating drivers is a valid answer to most BSOD but how you go about it is the key. Better to go to makers of the hardware but difficult if they haven't released any new drivers in 2 years.

Odd thing is if it was a LAN driver I can go to realteks website and get you latest but the WLAN doesn't have a website for them.
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
Moderator
Why I am looking for a driver that can't detect the card, I don't know.. its not installed. Explains why all drivers from this year.

I can't read the dumps so once Gardenman does again, we see what latest BSOD reports.

Win 10 could have installed Synapse, it tries to help and download software that matches hardware.
 

gardenman

Splendid
Moderator
Please put new dumps into a new folder and post a link each time, otherwise I have to spend 10 minutes trying to track down the link and figure out which ones are new. It just makes it much easier for me. I think I found the right dump file.

Results: https://cambialdirection.htmlpasta.com/

File information:021720-9359-01.dmp (Feb 17 2020 - 05:44:11)
Bugcheck:DRIVER_OVERRAN_STACK_BUFFER (F7)
Probably caused by:ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 26 Min(s), and 48 Sec(s)

This information can be used by others to help you. I can't help you with this. Someone else will post with more information. Please wait for additional answers. Good luck.
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
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I did, scan found nothing. I would update BIOS but today my power ran out twice, and I read its unsafe to do that with such issues, is that correct ?

Yes, don't do it if power is likely to go out midway through as it isn't wise.

If you have frequent power outages, I would turn fast startup off - https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-turn-off-fast-startup-windows-10-a.html - as with it on, win 10 is never really off. Its asleep when shut off. Can lead to corruption if you need to unplug it or power drops unexpectedly. If your boot drive is an ssd, you may not notice the difference with it off.
 
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gardenman

Splendid
Moderator
I ran the new dump file through the debugger and got the following information: https://glomeratemain.htmlpasta.com/

File information:021820-7312-01.dmp (Feb 18 2020 - 12:39:06)
Bugcheck:IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (A)
Probably caused by:memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:0 Day(s), 3 Hour(s), 16 Min(s), and 30 Sec(s)

This information can be used by others to help you. I can't help you with this. Someone else will post with more information. Please wait for additional answers. Good luck.
 
Feb 15, 2020
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Updated bios with Live Update 6.
Also updated audio drivers.
Hopefully that will fix the problems, will post if any BSOD appears again. If it does Ill consider full format.
 
Feb 15, 2020
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Just had another BSOD.
Im leaning towards clean format, I will have to download propably 500giga of data but I dont see any other solution to the problem.
Cant even post the dump file, for some reason one drive doesnt seem to work.
 

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