Question Bsod once on every cold startup

[fronk22]

Hi
I'm having trouble with Memory Management bsods when I start the computer and start applications (Chrome or games) after it being shut off for several hours, after the bsod there's no problems for the rest of the day no matter how long I use the comp.
I have tried reseating RAM and run memtest on both sticks one at a time over nights without any errors. Reinstalled win10 several times but it doesn't seem to help.
Also tested driver verifier for some hours but nothing happened or crashed. I'm unsure what to try next, I appreciate any help!
minidumps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p2XSrDPiS4SA3j3K5ooQnV5vJCMctWrM/view?usp=sharing

Prime x370-pro Bios version 6042
Ryzen 7 1700x
Asus Rog Strix gtx 980ti
Corsair 16gb 3000Mhz CL15 Vengeance
Corsair CX750M

Don't know if I missed any information but I'll provide if needed
Thanks in advancee

 

[Colif]

what storage drives do you have? Memory to windows is more than just ram. Also includes page file on C drive
If you reinstalled a few times, its not likely to be windows to blame.
Conversion of dumps

report - Click run as fiddle to see report

Spoiler

File: 093022-6953-01.dmp (Sep 30 2022 - 18:02:39)
BugCheck: [MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1A)]
Probably caused by: memory_corruption (Process: WerFault.exe)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 01 Min(s), and 12 Sec(s)

File: 093022-6937-01.dmp (Sep 30 2022 - 16:07:59)
BugCheck: [MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1A)]
Probably caused by: memory_corruption (Process: svchost.exe)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 01 Min(s), and 47 Sec(s)

try updating chipset drivers - https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x370 (not raid)
Processes mentioned are victims. Werfault - Windows Error Reporting... so it crashed. thats not normal.

both occured in Virtual Memory, which is made up of ram & Page file.

try turning this off and see if it removes need for restart - https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-turn-off-fast-startup-windows-10-a.html

 

[fronk22]

Thank you for looking into it.
I have already disabled fast startup earlier and it doesn't seem to do any difference.
My bootdevice is a Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500gb and then I have a second Kingston SSD. kingston shss37a480g
I'll try updating chipset drivers.

 

[Colif]

try running Magician on the Samsung drive, should be able to test its health - https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/tools/
if Samsung drive is C, its unlikely testing Kingston find anything but its worth testing - https://www.kingston.com/en/support/technical/ssdmanager

 

[ubuysa]

For me the cold start is a big clue. It rather sounds like something not seated fully - and a Memory Management BSOD doesn't always mean it's a RAM issue. I would pop out and reseat all PCIe cards, I'd also check all on board connectors - especially PSU connectors. In addition I'd check the SATA connectors to the boot drive (both drives actually) - SATA connectors have never looked terribly secure to me.

 

[Colif]

and a Memory Management BSOD doesn't always mean it's a RAM issue.

can be drivers too. and maybe possibly CPU since thats where memory controller is.
but I am not suggesting its the CPU here.

 

[fronk22]

Found no errors on the drives with Magician. I'm gonna check the connectors and cables tomorrow, but if something would be loose wouldn't that result in more instability and crashes?
I might try doing a complete wipe and install on the drive again and this time downloading drivers directly from manufacturers sites and not use windows automatic update if that could do any difference. Since it might be drivers crashing.

 

[Colif]

if you ran driver verifer for several hours and it found nothing, I wouldn't think it was a driver problem. Its job is to put drivers into situations they aren't supposed to be in, so if they all survived that they should be okay.

 

[ubuysa]

Found no errors on the drives with Magician. I'm gonna check the connectors and cables tomorrow, but if something would be loose wouldn't that result in more instability and crashes?

Not if, once the PC has warmed up, it makes a decent contact.

I think that the problem only happening on cold boot is a clue that shouldn't be ignored. It might be a PSU issue too...

 

[fronk22]

A little late reply since I have been away for a few days but yesterday I reseated every cable and card and cleaned everything with compressed air incase there was dirt making the connections not propely secured, but I still got a bsod after booting up.
So I gave driver verifier another shot and this time it crashed a driver instantly. Seems its amdgpio3.sys that caused it.
I'll upload the dump from today and another one from a few days ago which gave a new stopcode KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR
dumps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12oBWggocueBWusBycXvN5sgb9uf-94Rk/view?usp=sharing

I have already updated the chipset drivers including the gpio controller earlier per your suggestion so maybe it's something else causing it to crash? Or maybe I have to roll back the drivers
Thanks
edit:
I must have missed a crucial step or two the first time I started driver verifier since it didn't find anything then. Checked it again without checking amdgpio3 and it crashed steamstreamingmicrophone.sys this time
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b5D7xM2PzpeQ3SuPasw1qd-WYINxQkn-/view?usp=sharing

 

[Colif]

Conversion of dumps

report - Click run as fiddle to see report


File: 100922-6000-01.dmp (Oct 9 2022 - 17:45:13)
BugCheck: [DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (C4)]
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for amdgpio3.sys
Probably caused by: memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 00 Min(s), and 13 Sec(s)

File: 100522-5968-01.dmp (Oct 5 2022 - 21:32:03)
BugCheck: [KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR (7A)]
Probably caused by: memory_corruption (Process: WerFault.exe)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 09 Min(s), and 33 Sec(s)

I have seen these cause bsod only recently

Jul 21 2017	SteamStreamingSpeakers.sys	Steam Streaming Speakers driver (Valve Corporation)
Jul 29 2017	SteamStreamingMicrophone.sys	Steam Streaming Microphone driver (Valve Corporation)

top one does indeed blame

Jan 14 2022

amdgpio3.sys

AMD GPIO Controller Driver from Advanced Micro Devices http://support.amd.com/

I am not sure I believe it

Bottom blames... well, its all in virtual memory and the process that crashed is Windows Error Reporting... which makes me wonder.

You reinstalled windows too many times for this to be software.
your ram is on the corsair website for mb so it should work. I just thought I check.

Try running Prime 95, it checks CPU, RAM & Power - https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/prime95-download.html
Prime 95 Instructions - https://appuals.com/how-to-run-a-cpu-stress-test-using-prime95/
it will run for 17 hours unless it finds an error.

Another thought is it could be the Power Supply itself.

 

[fronk22]

Thank you for looking into this! I'll be able to run prime95 later this evening.
The PSU is fairly new, bought it in march I think and I've only used the cables that came with it. Though I suppose it still could be faulty.