Bsod with a msi 760gm-p34 (fx)msi 760gm-p34 (fx) Motherboard and 4-8GB of RAM

[Anthony Conner]

I recently have been having some serious issues with I believe to either be my motherboard or RAM, if I put too much strain on it too often, or at once, it crashes instantly, it used to not do this, I was able to livestream for hours, and now I cannot even run the programs past 10 minuets on a stream live, before it crashes. I took out 4GB of my memory as I thought it was the problem, I was dual channeling the ram, but it wouldn't unlock, after numerous attempts to unlock (Got a dual channel pack of Ripjaws 4GB sticks) when working on my build, now it blue screens left and right. It's not very stable and I cannot livestream my games or do any video recording for my youtube channel, anyone have any ideas or can possibly help? I can give more specs as needed.

Edit: Also before I took the ram out it was reading 3.17GB of 4, and when I managed to unlock 7.17 of 8, I thought one of the sticks was faulty, but they both read 4GB alone, all the hardware is brandnew.

 

[Tradesman1]

Missing DRAM may be allocated to video or other hardware and is normal what CPU and what is the model of the Ripjaws

 

[Anthony Conner]

Missing DRAM may be allocated to video or other hardware and is normal what CPU and what is the model of the Ripjaws

My GPU has a GB of it's own memory, it didn't need to use 4GB itself.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
Those are the ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285 CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130657 MOBO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127701 GPU

 

[Tradesman1]

The one stick prob wasn't fully seated - now it it, so 7.17 out of 8 as mentioned is prob allocating some DRAM to system resources like video. On to the DRAM it self, initially make sure timings are right in the BIOS, check for CR (command rate, command timing to 2T or 2N (the letter doesn't matter but don't want it at 1T or 1N, and raise DRAM voltage to 1.55 and let me know

 

[Shaun o]

Take a stick of your Ripjaws memory out.
Have a look at the speed rating and all of the timing values, and the voltage the sticks run at.

Go into the bios, and check all the settings match what you have read on the memory stick it`s self.
If they are not then change the values to what the memory says, and the voltage of the memory if required.

If you have a memory remapping option in your bios make sure it is turned on.

You never mentioned what brand of power supply you are using in your system So if you can tell us how many watts it is and the brand.

 

[Anthony Conner]

The one stick prob wasn't fully seated - now it it, so 7.17 out of 8 as mentioned is prob allocating some DRAM to system resources like video. On to the DRAM it self, initially make sure timings are right in the BIOS, check for CR (command rate, command timing to 2T or 2N (the letter doesn't matter but don't want it at 1T or 1N, and raise DRAM voltage to 1.5 and let me know

Bios blocks from changing any of that I've tried. When it was supposed to be dual channeling, and I used speccy, it was reading them as a combined ammount. They where both seated just fine, both clicked in.

 

[Anthony Conner]

Take a stick of your Ripjaws memory out.
Have a look at the speed rating and all of the timing values, and the voltage the sticks run at.

Go into the bios, and check all the settings match what you have read on the memory stick it`s self. If you have a memory remapping option in your bios make sure it is turned on.


You never mentioned what brand of power supply you are using in your system So if you can tell us how many watts it is and the brand.

I bought the PSU later, so it wasn't on that newegg list.
Thermaltake TR2 600W

 

[Anthony Conner]

The one stick prob wasn't fully seated - now it it, so 7.17 out of 8 as mentioned is prob allocating some DRAM to system resources like video. On to the DRAM it self, initially make sure timings are right in the BIOS, check for CR (command rate, command timing to 2T or 2N (the letter doesn't matter but don't want it at 1T or 1N, and raise DRAM voltage to 1.5 and let me know

Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 1
Free memory slots 1
Memory
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 667.2 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 11 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 11 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 11 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 59 %
Total Physical 4.00 GB
Available Physical 1.60 GB
Total Virtual 16 GB
Available Virtual 13 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 1


The BIOS is archaic and confusing, I was never able to find memory remapping or was ever able to select anything to do with memory in bios, I can change everything else but it wont let me touch the memory it's gray to me

I got my second stick I had out and the tag reads CL 9-9-9-24 1.50v

 

[Anthony Conner]

The one stick prob wasn't fully seated - now it it, so 7.17 out of 8 as mentioned is prob allocating some DRAM to system resources like video. On to the DRAM it self, initially make sure timings are right in the BIOS, check for CR (command rate, command timing to 2T or 2N (the letter doesn't matter but don't want it at 1T or 1N, and raise DRAM voltage to 1.5 and let me know

I found the area in Bios, it's reading 4/8 now though, I don't want it at 4/8 I want the full 8 Unlocked; it wont do it. The 1T 1N thing was auto, i forced it to 2T; as for timing, it's on auto, too and voltage is on 1.50v Auto, the clock was right, 9-9-9-23 In bios, as well, but it wouldn't let me change anything. If I took timing off auto it filled the screen with timing threads and I didn't know which to change.

This is how speccy is reading my RAM
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 667.3 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 11 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 11 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 11 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks

 

[Shaun o]

The memory may have tight timings.
by the look of it the board is running it at 11-11-11-24
But the stick says 9-9-9-24.
It should of read the timings of 9-9-9-24 off the stick.

So does the board support the memory speed ?
I will have a look at the manual for the board see if there may be something Amock.

 

[Anthony Conner]

The memory may have tight timings.
by the look of it the board is running it at 11-11-11-24
But the stick says 9-9-9-24.
It should of read the timings of 9-9-9-24 off the stick.

So does the board support the memory speed ?

Yeah, board and RAM are compatible.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 That RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130657 THis mobo

Memory
Number of Memory Slots
2×240pin
Memory Standard
DDR3 1066/1333/1600/1866*(OC)
Maximum Memory Supported
16GB
Channel Supported
Dual Channel


Should I unlink and try and set the timings myself? Or keep them linked?
This is how speccy is reading my RAM
RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 233.6 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 11 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 11 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 11 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 50 %
Total Physical 4.00 GB
Available Physical 1.98 GB
Total Virtual 16 GB
Available Virtual 13 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V
Slot #2
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V

 

[Shaun o]

Right.

Read this.
Advance DR AM Configuration
Press <Enter> to enter the sub-menu.
DR AM Timing Mode
Select whether DR AM timing is controlled by the SPD (Serial Presence Detect)
EE PRO M on the DR AM module. Setting to [Auto] enables DR AM timings and
the following “Advance DR AM Configuration” sub-menu to be determined by
BIO S based on the configurations on the SPD. Selecting [Manual] allows users
to configure the DR AM timings and the following related “Advance DR AM
Configuration” sub-menu manually.

Now set the ram timing as 9-9-9-24 as it says on the stick.
Anyway if you can do it give it a try.

 

[Anthony Conner]

Right.

Read this.
Advance DR AM Configuration
Press <Enter> to enter the sub-menu.
DR AM Timing Mode
Select whether DR AM timing is controlled by the SPD (Serial Presence Detect)
EE PRO M on the DR AM module. Setting to [Auto] enables DR AM timings and
the following “Advance DR AM Configuration” sub-menu to be determined by
BIO S based on the configurations on the SPD. Selecting [Manual] allows users
to configure the DR AM timings and the following related “Advance DR AM
Configuration” sub-menu manually.

Now set the ram timing as 9-9-9-24 as it says on the stick.
Anyway if you can do it give it a try.

It didn't have manual had Auto-Linked-Unlinked, I went to linked, as i figured it would set both and get rid of some confusion, this is how speccy reads it now , Single Channel, RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 666.7 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 9 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 9 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 52 %
Total Physical 4.00 GB
Available Physical 1.92 GB
Total Virtual 16 GB
Available Virtual 13 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V

It recognises the second stick is there and this is what it reads.

Slot #1
Slot #2
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V

it hasn't crashed since I booted it but I'm worried about it reading it as a single channel, why would it do that instead of dual?

 

[Anthony Conner]

Nothing seems amiss after getting in, unlinking and changing them individually;
RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 667.3 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 9 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 9 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 18 %
Total Physical 8.00 GB
Available Physical 6.49 GB
Total Virtual 20 GB
Available Virtual 18 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V
Slot #2
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V

Reads as dual now, with proper clocking. I wanted to post this asap incase I crashed again. After about half an hour to an hour on I'll test a game and see if it crashes.


It crashed again and is now reading RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 666.7 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 9 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 9 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 47 %
Total Physical 4.00 GB
Available Physical 2.08 GB
Total Virtual 16 GB
Available Virtual 14 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V
Slot #2
Type DDR3
Size 4096 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number F3-10666CL9-4GBRL
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 25
tRC 34
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 20
tRC 27
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 17
tRC 23
Voltage 1.500 V

could my Mobo or RAM be bad? it's reading single and wont let me change tRAS to 24, it goes straight to 25, when it loads it seems. Cause i have it set to 24 in BIOS