Budget 200$ CPU-Mobo combo?

[Sameer25]

ok, so i have a strict budget of 200$ for a mobo and cpu for gaming. i have a gtx 970 and my fx 6300 isnt cutting it even at 4.3ghz. so please help me pick a good combo for 200$, used or new
ok so i was thinking of going with a i5 3570k and ocing to 4.5Ghz with a z77 or a i5 2500k ocing to 4.5GHz with a z77 used. or if going a new route either a i5 4590 with a shitty h81 mobo( MSI H81M-E33 or Gigabyte GA-H81M-H) or a i5 6500 with a shitty h110 mobo,( BUt then i have to get DDR4 memory with extra, so prob not gonna happen)
please tell a good combo, and keep in mind that these are my requirements:
i have a 500w evga psu
has pcie gen 2.0 or 3.0 x16
sata 3 ports (at least 2)

 

[CTurbo]

If you can find a 4th gen i5 + mobo then that would be best. Overclocking is not important.

If buying new, the i3 6100 + B150 + DDR4 RAM would be best.

 

[Ecky]

There are H110 boards that accept DDR3. I'd honestly go Skylake, either i3 or i5, unless you can find a screaming deal on a Haswell chip.

 

[CTurbo]

Don't run Skylake with regular DDR3. Skylake supports DDR3L or DDR4

 

[Sameer25]

If you can find a 4th gen i5 + mobo then that would be best. Overclocking is not important.

If buying new, the i3 6100 + B150 + DDR4 RAM would be best.

I have a deal for a i5 6500 + Msi h110 pro-vd + 8gb DDR4 2400mhz geil for 246$ with tax
Or a i5 4590 + Msi h81m e33 for 200$ with my own 8gb ram

 

[Ecky]

I'd go with the Skylake CPU and sell your old DDR3.

 

[Sameer25]

I'd go with the Skylake CPU and sell your old DDR3.

Would a i5 3570 k clocked at 4.5 beat a i5 6500

 

[Ecky]

I'd go with the Skylake CPU and sell your old DDR3.

Would a i5 3570 k clocked at 4.5 beat a i5 6500

They would be about tied, but the 3570K would draw 3x as much power and lack M.2, USB 3.1, SATA express and other goodies that 1151 brings.

 

[Sameer25]

I'd go with the Skylake CPU and sell your old DDR3.

Would a i5 3570 k clocked at 4.5 beat a i5 6500

They would be about tied, but the 3570K would draw 3x as much power and lack M.2, USB 3.1, SATA express and other goodies that 1151 brings.

Yeah but with the 3570k I will have a z77 as rock extreme 4 but skylarks will have a shitty Matx h110m mobo

 

[Ecky]

I actually had an ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 for a while, paired with my 3570K. Are you sure you can get 4.5ghz out of it? That's actually a pretty high overclock for Ivy Bridge, and not all chips will reach it. How much cheaper is the Ivy Bridge combo?

It's very possible that an entry-level H110 board will be more feature rich in some ways than a mid-range Z77 board from a few years back. It depends on the board.

 

[Sameer25]

Msi h110m pro vd

 

[Ecky]

At a glance, the H110M Pro VD falls short in:

-2 fewer RAM slots
-No support for SLI or Crossfire
-No SPDIF output
-Fewer SATA ports, though still far more than I'd use
-Cannot overclock "K" CPUs

On the other hand, it has:

-A modern UEFI BIOS, with more sophisticated fan speed control
-A newer audio codec
-USB 3.1

Those are pretty much the only major relevant differences for me, aside from the fact that the MSI board will have a warranty, longer driver support, and two more generations of CPUs that will fit its socket. If it's important to you, you can probably find a model with an M.2 slot for around the same price. The lack of M.2 is actually my biggest single regret with my Ivy Bridge system, since M.2 drivers are generally a lot faster than their SATA counterparts, take up less space in the case, use less power, and don't add to wire mess.

Up to you, but I'd probably be willing to trade my Z77 + 3570K for a locked Skylake i5 + H110, given the opportunity.

 

[Sameer25]

At a glance, the H110M Pro VD falls short in:

-2 fewer RAM slots
-No support for SLI or Crossfire
-No SPDIF output
-Fewer SATA ports, though still far more than I'd use
-Cannot overclock "K" CPUs

On the other hand, it has:
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-A modern UEFI BIOS, with more sophisticated fan speed control
-A newer audio codec
-USB 3.1

Those are pretty much the only major relevant differences for me, aside from the fact that the MSI board will have a warranty, longer driver support, and two more generations of CPUs that will fit its socket. If it's important to you, you can probably find a model with an M.2 slot for around the same price. The lack of M.2 is actually my biggest single regret with my Ivy Bridge system, since M.2 drivers are generally a lot faster than their SATA counterparts, take up less space in the case, use less power, and don't add to wire mess.

Up to you, but I'd probably be willing to trade my Z77 + 3570K for a locked Skylake i5 + H110, given the opportunity.

 

[Sameer25]

if i get a i5 4590 + msi h81m e33 for 216 is that a better deal

 

[Ecky]

I don't think any of the three are particularly bad deals. You can see capitalism at work here - the older i5's are not much slower, and are also not much cheaper. To me, it makes more sense to buy new due to warranties and upgrade opportunities, but you'll find varying opinions.

 

[Sameer25]

I don't think any of the three are particularly bad deals. You can see capitalism at work here - the older i5's are not much slower, and are also not much cheaper. To me, it makes more sense to buy new due to warranties and upgrade opportunities, but you'll find varying opinions.

so whats a better price to performance deal

 

[Ecky]

The Skylake rig will likely perform about the same as the Ivy Bridge after overclocking. The stock Haswell CPU will be a little behind, but not enough to matter. The main differences here will be in platform and power consumption.