Question Budget GPU for entry level gaming?

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Mobo: ASROCK H410M-HDV/M2 https://www.e-shop.gr/mitriki-asrock-h410m-hdv-m2-retail-p-PER.529103

PSU: FORCE FO35XD 650W https://www.e-shop.gr/psu-force-fo35xd-650w-p-PER.643578

CPU: Intel i5 10400 2.9Ghz LGA1200 https://www.e-shop.gr/cpu-intel-core-i5-10400-290ghz-lga1200-box-p-PER.558780

RAM: 2x Patriot Signature Line Premium PSP48G266681H1 8GB DDR4 2666Mhz https://www.e-shop.gr/ram-patriot-psp48g266681h1-signature-line-premium-8gb-ddr4-2666mhz-p-PER.577481

HDD: Seagate ST1000DM010 Barracuda 1TB Sata3 https://www.e-shop.gr/hdd-seagate-st1000dm010-barracuda-1tb-sata3-p-PER.302197

SSD: Patriot PBU240GS25SSDR Burst 240GB 2.5'' Sata 3 https://www.e-shop.gr/ssd-patriot-pbu240gs25ssdr-burst-240gb-25-sata-3-p-PER.323119

Case: Innovator Ajazz T400 Transparent Black https://www.e-shop.gr/case-innovator-ajazz-t400-transparent-black-p-PER.643951
(Already got 6x120mm case fans to fill all the intake and exshaust slots) : https://www.e-shop.gr/genesis-ngf-1168-hydrion-120-green-led-120mm-fan-p-PER.573969

Monitor: Philips 243V7QDSB 23.8'' Led Full HD 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz https://www.e-shop.gr/othoni-philips-243v7qdsb-238-led-full-hd-p-PER.156081

The motherboard comes with an Intel H410 chipset wich i think is enough for some gaming on low-med settings but im gonna be playing Overwatch / Rust / Fortnite and Pubg

My budget is 200€ right now and i was wondering if those 2 gpus im gonna mention below are still relevant for those games:

1) MSI GeForce Gtx1650 Gaming X 4G 4GB GDDR5 https://www.e-shop.gr/vga-msi-geforce-gtx1650-gaming-x-4g-4gb-gddr5-pci-e-retail-p-PER.516656

2) MSI Radeon Rx570 Armor 8G OC 8GB GDDR5 https://www.e-shop.gr/vga-msi-radeon-rx570-armor-8g-oc-8gb-gddr5-pci-e-retail-p-PER.514688

They're both in the same price range (170-180€) where i live and im pretty sure they're pretty much identical with the Rx570 being just slightly better.
My case has a 360mm restriction for the gpu im gonna use and i do not want to use vertical mount.
Any better suggestions in my budget range are welcome, thank you in advance.
 

Vulmaro

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There is going to be a very slight bottleneck issue with your options. But I would highly suggest that going for RX 570 due to the fact that GTX 1650 has no power connector pins because of its very low TDP which is 75W. That low consumption sounds great but the GPU only gets its power from MOBO PCI and I think it won't be enough for gaming. Plus, RX 570 is way more better than 1650 but im talking about the "non super" one

Here are the bottleneck calculations for your information. It says it won't be enough for 1080p gaming, though.



It is very much likely to be a better option if you also consider upgrading your CPU as well as MOBO which would be compatible with your RAMs
 

bignastyid

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Before choosing a GPU you need to address a major issue first. Get a better PSU. The unit in your list is a dangerously old design, passive PFC and only 360w on the 12v rails(likely can't deliver that). So closer to a 350w PSU than 650w. A poor PSU choice will turn that budget gaming rig into a doorstop.

The RX570 is the better option but you want a decent 450w for it, that ancient "650w" unit is not going to cut it.

Also buy the ram in a kit not individual sticks.
 
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In my defense, im not the one building the pc, im getting it as a gift from a friend and it's a pre-built one, but brand new. I have little to non knowledge about computer building in general but im trying to learn as much as i can now that im getting into gaming.
Im gonna use the stuff that come with the pc for now since my budget is extremely low, but i can probably make a couple changes that you guys think are false by factory, like the psu that bignastyid mentioned. Dont think im able to go for more expensive swaps like cpu / mobo.
I went for an extra 8gb of ram because i read everywhere that it's better to run dual channel than single. There was a single 8gb stick in the build, so i found and bought one more, same brand, same specs. Both are still not used.
I've seen i3's / earlier gen i5's running the games i mentioned so im pretty sure i can make this one work too :p
Just need some guidance on parts that i SHOULD, no matter what, get rid off (like the psu) and names of the ones that i should buy if possible.
 

poorbugger

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Well if budget is the deal here, i would skip that cpu and go for a ryzen build. That cpu is powerful but the gpu is kind of lackluster paired with it.
https://www.e-shop.gr/cpu-amd-ryzen-3-3100-360ghz-4-core-with-wraith-stealth-box-p-PER.559742

You saved off about 80 euros by doing so and invest it in a better gpu like a 1650 super or even 1660. But if you cant, the rx 570 will be better here provided you change the psu first.
i would get this instead,
https://www.e-shop.gr/vga-asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-gtx-1650-super-tuf-gtx1650s-4g-gaming-4gb-gddr6-pci-e-retail-p-PER.513937
The 1650s is on par if not better than rx 580 for just 3 euros more than the rx 570 link that you sent.
 
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Well if budget is the deal here, i would skip that cpu and go for a ryzen build. That cpu is powerful but the gpu is kind of lackluster paired with it.
https://www.e-shop.gr/cpu-amd-ryzen-3-3100-360ghz-4-core-with-wraith-stealth-box-p-PER.559742

You saved off about 80 euros by doing so and invest it in a better gpu like a 1650 super or even 1660. But if you cant, the rx 570 will be better here provided you change the psu first.
i would get this instead,
https://www.e-shop.gr/vga-asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-gtx-1650-super-tuf-gtx1650s-4g-gaming-4gb-gddr6-pci-e-retail-p-PER.513937
The 1650s is on par if not better than rx 580 for just 3 euros more than the rx 570 link that you sent.
The build already exists. Im just looking for ways to make it better IF that is actually possible
 

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