Budget Video Editing System Advice

husker92

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I have built my last two systems, but that was before dual core, quad core, crossfire video, DDR2, etc, so I need help.

I want to use this new build for downloading, storing and editing my families photos and videos and to be able to create movies with them (basic stuff, nothing elaborate). My current P4 system seems to get hung up trying to do all this.

I have been reading all the "new build" posts, but it seems that most of them are designed for gamers. I will not be using the pc for gaming (no time - kids, kids, kids). So, what would be a good budget media system ($500)? I have already have a dvd burner to use, so I am basically looking for advise on CPU, MB, PSU, CASE, RAM, HD, VIDEO (if you think I need more than an on-board).

Thanks for looking!
 
This is what I'd recommend for your intended use:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600 Brisbane 2.9GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103234 $68.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3HP AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128373 $85.99

You shouldn't need more than the onboard video since you're not playing any games.

G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209 $54.99

WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar?SE16 SATA WD6400AAKS SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Buffer Hard Drive
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008688&prodlist=celebros $64.99

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 $59.95

CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008 $59.99 - $20.00 MIR

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488 $99.99

Total - $494.89 - $20 MIR's

I put a 64-bit OS in the build so you can fully use all 4GB of RAM. If you don't need the OS, I'd step up the CPU to one of the new Phenom II X3's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000343+1445932520&Configurator=&Subcategory=343&description=phenom+ii&Ntk=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

The X3 720 is a pretty powerful chip.
 

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Don't listen to that last guy... Check any of the processor reivews in the last 2 years and you will see that for video editing/encoding Intel's Quad Core's beat AMD hands down (tranditionaly this has been the case even in P4 era). So here are my suggestions


Intel Q9550 Quad Core at 2.83ghz
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

Asus Workstation Motherboard. They are always rocksolid.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131328

Good passively cooled video card
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150245&Tpk=xfx%208500gt


4gb of Corsair Ram ddr2 800mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184

The rest of the stuff is really up to you and what you like. But take it from someone who does video editing work professionaly and has built more the 10 video editing machines for himself and associates. Stick with intel on this one. Spend the extra money and get something that isn't going to fall apart on you when you need it most.
 

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I don't know what you do or if you would know, but would this also apply to design applications such as Photoshop CS3, Maya, 3DSMax, etc?
 


I'm well aware that Intel chips are faster, but I actually tried to stay within budget. You blew the budget on just the CPU & motherboard. Did you even read the original post? The original poster said he wanted to spend less than $500. My build is about the fastest computer you could buy given the budget.
 
Here are some benchmarks you can look over. Q9550 ($280) and Phenom II X4 940 ($230) look to be priced relative to performance results. CPU benchmarks
 

flyhiloone

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Look at WR2 reply he gave a great link... Look and see for yourself. I would suggest going with a quad core (whether it be AMD or Intel is up to you). Dont waste time (literally) waiting for renders to complete when you could get them done much faster with a quad core. I know you don't want to spend alot of money but if you put the extra money into it now it will save you down the road when you don't have wait for rendering and transcoding to finish so you can burn your DVD.

And yes quad cores will help all of the programs you listed. Photoshop the least, MAYA and 3dsmax (we use maya at the office) will utilize as many cores as you tell them to.
 

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What part of budget are people not able to understand! Can't you guys figure this out? Heres a hint, "kids, kids, kids". Unlike some, he can't spend tons of money on this. Yes, quads would be great, as would an Intel quad or PhII. Fact is, he'd spend so much money on just the CPU, that he wouldn't have enough left over for everything else that he'd need.

I agree with Shortstuff's list. "Decent" CPU, onboard video, 4GBs of DDR2-800 ram, and a quick drive. The customer reviews even claim this board supports the new PhII chips, so you'll be able to upgrade to quad later when you have the money. The only bad thing is Shortstuff failed to include shipping, so with shipping and taxes it will come to over $500. I would start with his list and adjust as needed. Quad or X3 would be better, but if you don't have the $$$, you don't have the $$$.
 

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Look at his post... 500 dollars is more of a question than a requirement... Besides let the guys speak. He never said anything to me or anyone else about the price being to high. In fact he just asked more questions when i posted what i did.
 

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Thanks for all the posts. Sorry to create so much debate. The $500 budget is pretty firm (given todays economy and family needs).

So, given that, it seems I would need to stick with a dual CPU. My local Microcenter has these Intels cheaper than Newegg:

Intel® Boxed Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E5200 - 69.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0301967

Intel® Boxed Core 2 Duo Processor E7400 - 99.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0301964

Given these prices and the fact that I am staying with Dual and not Quad, which would be the better value, AMD or Intel?

Also, is Vista a must for this type of set up? I was planning to use my XP home, but I can go to Vista if you all recommend it.

Again, thanks so much for all your posts. It is so nice to have my personal experts to consult with :wahoo: .
 

husker92

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One more thing, the $500 budget is a max. If I can build cheaper without much loss of performance for what I need the pc for (family photo/video editing), that would be great (example, if the E5200 would work just as good for my needs as the E7400).

There may come a time when I want the PC to do more (gaming, more elaborate video editing, etc), but I don't see that in the near future.

Sorry to go on, I just want everyone to know what I need the pc for, I think it probably helps your build thinking.

Thanks again for posting. I know it is pretty hard for most hard-core gamers/builders to think cheap. I appreciate your time.
 

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I still stand by what Shortstuff said. Notice the last part of his post.

I put a 64-bit OS in the build so you can fully use all 4GB of RAM. If you don't need the OS, I'd step up the CPU to one of the new Phenom II X3's.

If you don't need the OS, step up to the X3 line. The X3s due to the extra core can be faster then any dual core that AMD or Intel has, as long as you compare around price. Sub in the X3, drop the OS, and enjoy the new rig.
 

I completely agree. Vista isn't absolutely necessary. The Phenom II X3 720 is doing pretty well in the benchmarks. The extra core should be helpful for your intended use.

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649

Edit: You could probably even squeeze in a Phenom II X4 920 if you go with this RAM and HD:

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122 $44.99

WESTERN DIGITAL WD3200AAKS 320GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Hard Drive
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005615&prodlist=celebros $49.99

AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103472 $189.00
 
When you get right down to it any of the dual (or 3 core) CPUs are fine for what you want. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how much more powerful they seem to you than what you have now. Using XP is still a great choice and in no way a significant limiting factor.

A professional video editor (flyhiloone) obviously has requirements different from rest of us. But he also failed to notice that the dual core CPUs aren't that far off from the quad core performance benchmarks. 2 cores might not be as fast as 4 - but they're not slow, they're less expensive and they're good enough for most of us. This is especially true for casual and occasional photo/video editing.
 

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Wr2 is right... No matter what you buy it will be significantly faster than a P4. At the end of the day the most important thing that you can do is feel good about what you bought. If 500.00 is all you have then don't spend a dime more.

Good Luck : )