Alec L

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Hello, I'm looking to build a PC and this is what I've come up with at the moment. I'm new to this, so I'm not sure what extra parts I may need to purchase. Please let me know if this works and what I may need to change or add on. Thanks!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QqPngw
 
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Well the 9600K is better however if it's worth the extra $100 is only something you can determine.

When I first made my build back in October it had a G5400 as a placeholder for the 9600K but for my style of gaming (75 hz with Freesync) the extra cost for the 9600K & cooler (you can use the stock cooler for the 2600 but it's kind of loud) just wasn't worth it. If you need stable 144hz then the 9600K may be a better choice however I would be a bit turned away by the 6 cores only with no hyperthreading as I've seen 80-90% usage on all 6C/12T of my 2600 while gaming and having Discord/HWmonitor programs open.

WildCard999

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My bad. I just added it.
Ok, so the build is decent however you need a better CPU & PSU. The 212 EVO is going to struggle to keep that 8700K within a safe range and that CXM 450W is cutting it extremely close but also isn't really that good quality wise.

These are the changes I would make.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($379.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1191.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 15:16 EST-0500


Although to be honest is your gaming at 1440P you'd be better off going with the Ryzen 5 2600.
 

Alec L

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Ok, so the build is decent however you need a better CPU & PSU. The 212 EVO is going to struggle to keep that 8700K within a safe range and that CXM 450W is cutting it extremely close but also isn't really that good quality wise.

These are the changes I would make.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($379.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1191.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 15:16 EST-0500


Although to be honest is your gaming at 1440P you'd be better off going with the Ryzen 5 2600.
Thanks! Im just looking to game at 1080p so would the build you recommend be good for that? I mostly play fps and battle royale games if that makes any difference. Also, these fans would be powerful enough to support everything? I just want to be completely sure everything will work.
 

WildCard999

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Ok so you'll want the 8700K. As for fans the two included as exhaust are fine but I'd recommend a pair of 140mm fans for Intake.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $23.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 15:50 EST-0500
 

Alec L

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Ok so you'll want the 8700K. As for fans the two included as exhaust are fine but I'd recommend a pair of 140mm fans for Intake.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $23.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 15:50 EST-0500
So will ur recommended build plus the two fans be compatible and work with no problems, pcpartpicker says that the gpu might be too big for the case.
 

WildCard999

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So will ur recommended build plus the two fans be compatible and work with no problems, pcpartpicker says that the gpu might be too big for the case.
The length of the MSI is 204mm and the H500 supports GPU's up to 381mm so there should be no issue.

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-VENTUS-XS-6G-OC/Specification
 

Alec L

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The length of the MSI is 204mm and the H500 supports GPU's up to 381mm so there should be no issue.

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-VENTUS-XS-6G-OC/Specification
Okay sweet! One last question. Will i need to buy a wired adapter and sound card or will my motherboard come with that?
 

WildCard999

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Not really, just take your time and if it doesn't initially boot don't worry as it's probably something minor you've overlooked. If it doesn't boot then go through this checklist.

Although how much more, if possible, could you afford from my recommended build? The reason I ask is the motherboard isn't the best especially if you want to overclock eventually. I'd change it to this if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $134.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 16:25 EST-0500
 

Alec L

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Not really, just take your time and if it doesn't initially boot don't worry as it's probably something minor you've overlooked. If it doesn't boot then go through this checklist.

Although how much more, if possible, could you afford from my recommended build? The reason I ask is the motherboard isn't the best especially if you want to overclock eventually. I'd change it to this if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $134.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 16:25 EST-0500
I think ill be able to make the upgrade; however, that is probably the most I can go. Thanks for your help!
 

Alec L

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Not really, just take your time and if it doesn't initially boot don't worry as it's probably something minor you've overlooked. If it doesn't boot then go through this checklist.

Although how much more, if possible, could you afford from my recommended build? The reason I ask is the motherboard isn't the best especially if you want to overclock eventually. I'd change it to this if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $134.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 16:25 EST-0500
I was checking that everything works and the graphics card and case problem is still worrying me, Is there a reason a 1070, the one in my original build, wouldn't work? Something to do with the fan or psu maybe?
 

WildCard999

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I was checking that everything works and the graphics card and case problem is still worrying me, Is there a reason a 1070, the one in my original build, wouldn't work? Something to do with the fan or psu maybe?
There's no issue, I swapped it over as it trade blows performance wise with the 1070 and can be had for cheaper. Just trying to save money for other aspects of the build such as the CPU cooler.
 

Alec L

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There's no issue, I swapped it over as it trade blows performance wise with the 1070 and can be had for cheaper. Just trying to save money for other aspects of the build such as the CPU cooler.
Okay. Also, If i were too switch to an Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor, would i lose a lot of power (in terms of frames and processing)? Is it worth it to spend $120 less?
 

WildCard999

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Okay. Also, If i were too switch to an Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor, would i lose a lot of power (in terms of frames and processing)? Is it worth it to spend $120 less?
Not at all, the 8600K 6 core is still very impressive as performance per core is very good. I would however pay a little more and grab the 9600K as unlike the 8600K it has soldered TIM which reduces the temp quite a bit. Plus going with the i5 instead of the i7 allows you to get a much better SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($264.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.39 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1174.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 17:34 EST-0500
 

Alec L

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Not at all, the 8600K 6 core is still very impressive as performance per core is very good. I would however pay a little more and grab the 9600K as unlike the 8600K it has soldered TIM which reduces the temp quite a bit. Plus going with the i5 instead of the i7 allows you to get a much better SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($264.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.39 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1174.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 17:34 EST-0500
Ill get the 9600 then. Is a 500gb sdd really that much better than a 240gb? i dont play many games, so i think saving the $40 would be easier for me.
 

Alec L

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It's not just the higher amount but the Crucial is faster, better quality & is M.2 so it connects directly to the motherboard so it frees up an extra spot on the SATA Power cable for another drive if need be.
https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Kingston-A400-240GB-vs-Crucial-MX500-250GB/3953vs3951
Okay. Will these compatibility issues affect anything?
The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled.
The motherboard M.2 slot #2 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.
 

WildCard999

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The more I think of it maybe it would just be wiser to go AMD Ryzen, the 2600 performs great and has 12 threads so if you into streaming it will handle that much better then the 8600K/9600K, plus with AMD supporting the AM4 socket until 2020 you have a better upgrade path over Intel.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.39 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1074.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-02 17:46 EST-0500



That error message just means that when you use the M.2 slot(s), two of the SATA connections are disabled but most boards have 6 or so which is plenty.