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For the same price you can get a 8 core Ryzen as well a 5700 XT which just lags few % behind the 2070 S, but again you would be having a premium card with about the same performance and adding 2 cores.


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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ B&H)
Storage: *Silicon Power A60 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($429.99 @ Walmart)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh...

Phaaze88

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Not bad at all!
-3600X not really worth it over non-X unless you get it on sale
=Wraith Prism doesn't appear to adequate for anything even moderately heavy - that's just from all the complaints regarding users who've run with the boxed coolers... I think it has to do with how the top-down area coolers work.
9.5/10.
 

Ferimer

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Not bad at all!
-3600X not really worth it over non-X unless you get it on sale
=Wraith Prism doesn't appear to adequate for anything even moderately heavy - that's just from all the complaints regarding users who've run with the boxed coolers... I think it has to do with how the top-down area coolers work.
9.5/10.
From the readings I've come across the Stock Cooler just cant handle the temps these Ryzen's put out when the CPU is constantly jumping all over the place from low to mid to high load. There just isn't enough to keep stock with it. Frankly AMD should just scrap them, lower the price by like $30 and force those that buy their CPUS to buy a proper CPU cooler, whether it be Air or Liquid.
 

Phaaze88

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From the readings I've come across the Stock Cooler just cant handle the temps these Ryzen's put out when the CPU is constantly jumping all over the place from low to mid to high load. There just isn't enough to keep stock with it. Frankly AMD should just scrap them, lower the price by like $30 and force those that buy their CPUS to buy a proper CPU cooler, whether it be Air or Liquid.
It works for some and not others, so it does depend on what the user is doing.
On top of that, the top-down area cooler draws air from above the fan, pushes down into the heatsink, after which that exhaust spreads out in all directions.
IMO, I believe that these coolers need a side intake to work more effectively. With the trend of side glass windows, they aren't as good as they could be.
 

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It works for some and not others, so it does depend on what the user is doing.
On top of that, the top-down area cooler draws air from above the fan, pushes down into the heatsink, after which that exhaust spreads out in all directions.
IMO, I believe that these coolers need a side intake to work more effectively. With the trend of side glass windows, they aren't as good as they could be.
So puling in air from above itself would basically see it pulling in warm air from above itself, as we know hot air rises in cases. SO those with the stock cooler and a top exhaust may see problems? so a work around maybe would see installing a top intake above so more cooler air gets sucked?
 

Phaaze88

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we know hot air rises in cases.
That only applies when NO external forces, aka, a fan, are present.
In most modern chassis, these top-down coolers are sucking in gpu exhaust, and that's not doing them ANY favors.

so a work around maybe would see installing a top intake above so more cooler air gets sucked?
Doesn't work. That serves to actually trap heat between the gpu and the top intake.
The cool intake air runs into the Wraith's and the gpu's exhaust, and the air ends up going in circles right there.

With a side intake, top and rear exhaust, these coolers shouldn't need to be replaced - in most situations, anyway.
 

Ferimer

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That only applies when NO external forces, aka, a fan, are present.
In most modern chassis, these top-down coolers are sucking in gpu exhaust, and that's not doing them ANY favors.


Doesn't work. That serves to actually trap heat between the gpu and the top intake.
The cool intake air runs into the Wraith's and the gpu's exhaust, and the air ends up going in circles right there.

With a side intake, top and rear exhaust, these coolers shouldn't need to be replaced - in most situations, anyway.
Then it is settled AMD needs to change the way these Wrath coolers are made. Has intel pretty much stopped providing stock coolers now on their newer CPUS?
 
For the same price you can get a 8 core Ryzen as well a 5700 XT which just lags few % behind the 2070 S, but again you would be having a premium card with about the same performance and adding 2 cores.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ B&H)
Storage: *Silicon Power A60 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($429.99 @ Walmart)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($99.94 @ ModMyMods)
Total: $1219.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-24 18:49 EDT-0400
 
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