Question Build recommendations for editing/gaming PC.

[Dansaj]

Hey ,
So I have decided to build a new PC and let me give you an insight on what I do/need it for to give better view.
I do really heavy Photoshop work ( very large resolution + a lot of layers etc.) so I would need it to be very proficient there. I also compress a lot files and so on , basic editing tasks. ( just a side note, I don't do video editing.)
I also do 3D rendering and that's not really the aim of the build , but it would be a little bonus if it was decent at that too. And obviously I do gaming too (Apex Legends etc. , them sort of games ; some on the heavier sides). So basically editing and gaming mainly.
Also it needs to be an upgrade from 1080p to 1440p
I don't need to go overboard with it at all and I'm look to definitely stay around the 1000EURO mark(without monitor or peripherals)

I would really appreciate it you guys gave some build suggestions ( on PCPartPicker or anywhere else)
I am working on my list and post it once I've got a solid one...

Thanks in advance

 

[WildCard999]

This will handle your editing work and 1440P gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor (€164.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler (€34.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€81.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Twin X2 Video Card (€289.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home French - OEM DVD 64-bit (€82.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1014.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 19:49 CEST+0200

 

[Bearmann]

A bit over budget, but perhaps something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($375.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1296.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 13:47 EDT-0400

We can make it less expensive by getting a cheaper MB, a smaller SSD, etc. Will you be bringing over your old case, hard drives?

 

[Dansaj]

This will handle your editing work and 1440P gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor (€164.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler (€34.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€81.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Twin X2 Video Card (€289.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home French - OEM DVD 64-bit (€82.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1014.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 19:49 CEST+0200

Thanks alot...
Isn't the CPU alittle bit underpowered ? Just a thought...
I see many people recommending the Ryzen 7 2700x or i5 8600k (which would you pick out of these two ?

 

[Dansaj]

A bit over budget, but perhaps something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($375.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1296.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 13:47 EDT-0400

We can make it less expensive by getting a cheaper MB, a smaller SSD, etc. Will you be bringing over your old case, hard drives?

Thanks for the build...
I reckon we could cut it down alittle bit in price...
That CPU and Mobo combo is quite hefty in price.
I already have Samsung 860 250GB SSD and a Corsair CX550M(never version)

 

[WildCard999]

Thanks alot...
Isn't the CPU alittle bit underpowered ? Just a thought...
I see many people recommending the Ryzen 7 2700x or i5 8600k (which would you pick out of these two ?

Well for the budget it's a good choice however you'd want to overclock it a bit which is why I included the aftermarket cooler. Once overclocked to 3.8ghz+ it'll be quite good. The 2700X overclocks a bit higher but is priced much higher and while the 8600K has great performance per core with only 6 cores and 6 threads may not be very good for editing which is why I went with the 8C/16T CPU.

Edit: Seeing as you already have a SSD & PSU you could use that money for the 2700X and considering it has one of the best stock coolers out there I'd dump the EVO 212 Black.

 

[Dansaj]

Well for the budget it's a good choice however you'd want to overclock it a bit which is why I included the aftermarket cooler. Once overclocked to 3.8ghz+ it'll be quite good. The 2700X overclocks a bit higher but is priced much higher and while the 8600K has great performance per core with only 6 cores and 6 threads may not be very good for editing which is why I went with the 8C/16T CPU.

Edit: Seeing as you already have a SSD & PSU you could use that money for the 2700X and considering it has one of the best stock coolers out there I'd dump the EVO 212 Black.

From your build I think I would knock down on the storage alittle bit...I dont need to go overboard with it...and then maybe opt for a little higher on the CPU , maybe a couple version of the Ryzen higher...thoughts?

 

[WildCard999]

From your build I think I would knock down on the storage alittle bit...I dont need to go overboard with it...and then maybe opt for a little higher on the CPU , maybe a couple version of the Ryzen higher...thoughts?

It's kind of tough recommending higher end Ryzen with the 3rd gen possibly coming out in early July. Spec wise it looks impressive and personally I'd go for something cheaper and then save a bit extra for when they come out as they'll work with the current AM4 boards with updated BIOS.

 

[Bearmann]

For a Photohsop build, you'll want high single core performance over multiple cores, thus I chose Intel. With heavy Photoshop work, I would get 32GB RAM. With your old parts, this would get you in budget (without OS.) I'm assumig an overclock and the two MB's I chose have good VRM's for that. If you don't want to OC, we can certainly save money there. We can also drop down to an i5 if you rather save the money. The Z390 MB's have extra USB 3.1 gen 2 ports versus the Z370 MB's (and beefier VRM's).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($375.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z370-A II ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1127.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 14:25 EDT-0400

 

[Bearmann]

For Photoshop, I think it would hiarchy like this:

Intel i7 > overclocked Intel i5 9600K > AMD 2700x > Intel i5.

 

[Dansaj]

Yeah Im debating whether to go i5 or 2700x...although an OC i5 doesnt seem like a bad idea...how about waiting for the 3rd gen ryzens, or are they gonna be expensive at launch ? (if the prices are accurate)

 

[WildCard999]

The pricing appears to be the biggest rumor but I did remember reading about a site that started posting prices but they were about $20 or so higher then what is on the chart. The biggest impact though seems to be an improvement in IPC showing the 3600(or X version) beating the 9900K in Cinebench at a lower power consumption which is impressive as the CPU is half the price possibly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...faster-than-intel-core-i9-9900k/#5e20d9e66188

 

[Bearmann]

We'll just have to wait and see what Ryxen 3000 brings. Announcement expected in July, I think.

 

[Bearmann]

Here's an alternate build for your consideration. The MB has upgraded audio, good selection of internal and rear panel USB 3.0/3.1 gen 1 ports.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.06 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $995.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 17:48 EDT-0400

 

[WildCard999]

Here's an alternate build for your consideration. The MB has upgraded audio, good selection of internal and rear panel USB 3.0/3.1 gen 1 ports.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.06 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $995.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-31 17:48 EDT-0400

I like this, only thing I would add to it would be a good aftermarket cooler as the stock Intel cooler is terrible.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy...ck-edition-420-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1

 

[Dansaj]

Thanks alot for the great suggestions I have been looking at them
Im still stuck between the AMD Ryzen 2700x or the i7 8700/8700k
I probably will not be OCing , since even though I would want to , but in the beginning i definitely wouldnt...

Is there a huge difference between 8700 and 8700k (apart from OCing) and then compared to the Ryzen , because some people would still pick ryzen over intel and vice versa...so Im still abit stuck on the two

 

[Dansaj]

Hey , so after doing a lot of research past couple of days and here is my build : https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/QnZ3TB
Primary use will be editing and some side gaming ( 1440p minimum for both)
Some notes :

1. cooler might be changing to something a little bit bigger ( but definitely staying with air)
2. not too sure on the mother board, if you have any other tips on which one to opt for I would be happy to take them
3. RAM might change to Crucial Ballistix Sport LT , also not too sure on that...

Let me know your thoughts on each part , so I can adjust it
Thanks in advance..

 

[Darkbreeze]

1660 TI does not have good enough performance for 1440p gaming if you expect high or ultra settings on any demanding games. If you play mostly light demand eSports type games or high FPS shooters then maybe, but it's really not a 1440p card. For that you should be looking at, minimum, an RTX 2060, and a 2070 or higher would be a lot better.

If you are willing to move some sliders to the left though, and give up some eye candy, then it might be passable enough.

Is that power supply one you already have?

What is your ACTUAL maximum budget for the build? Mostly it looks ok, but there are likely some areas where it could be tweaked to be better or more reliable, possibly.

 

[Dansaj]

1660 TI does not have good enough performance for 1440p gaming if you expect high or ultra settings on any demanding games. If you play mostly light demand eSports type games or high FPS shooters then maybe, but it's really not a 1440p card. For that you should be looking at, minimum, an RTX 2060, and a 2070 or higher would be a lot better.

If you are willing to move some sliders to the left though, and give up some eye candy, then it might be passable enough.

Is that power supply one you already have?

What is your ACTUAL maximum budget for the build? Mostly it looks ok, but there are likely some areas where it could be tweaked to be better or more reliable, possibly.

I think the 1660ti would be sufficient , im not an ultra person I can tone it down abit of course...
The budget is 1000EUR max as I still need a monitor...
Yes I already have that PSU , but I could get another one if so...
What would you tweak...you can edit my list and link me if you want

 

[Darkbreeze]

Are you planning to do any overclocking of the CPU?

 

[Dansaj]

Are you planning to do any overclocking of the CPU?

Definitely not straight away maybe in the future

 

[Darkbreeze]

Few tweaks that should be better. The memory for example, you don't want to go with sticks that use odd denomination CAS, like CAS 15. Ryzen doesn't like them. You will have better success with compatibility using models that have CAS 14, 16, 18, etc., with of course 14 being preferable when using 3000/3200mhz sticks because those will be Samsung B-die modules and will obviously be more expensive. Those CAS 16 sticks I put in there SHOULD be fine, but it's worth noting that even now Ryzen can still be particularly finicky about memory compatibility.

Little bit better motherboard. Definitely, MILES better CPU cooler. So it should be a lot quieter and allow for significantly more thermal headroom if you do decide to overclock later.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€309.00 @ Alternate)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€37.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€86.80 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€102.38 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€66.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card (€297.01 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: €966.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 21:21 CEST+0200

 

[Dansaj]

Few tweaks that should be better. The memory for example, you don't want to go with sticks that use odd denomination CAS, like CAS 15. Ryzen doesn't like them. You will have better success with compatibility using models that have CAS 14, 16, 18, etc., with of course 14 being preferable when using 3000/3200mhz sticks because those will be Samsung B-die modules and will obviously be more expensive. Those CAS 16 sticks I put in there SHOULD be fine, but it's worth noting that even now Ryzen can still be particularly finicky about memory compatibility.

Little bit better motherboard. Definitely, MILES better CPU cooler. So it should be a lot quieter and allow for significantly more thermal headroom if you do decide to overclock later.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€309.00 @ Alternate)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€37.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€86.80 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€102.38 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€66.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card (€297.01 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: €966.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 21:21 CEST+0200

Great thanks for that ! Looks great and I had no idea about the RAM , so I learned something new...
Only thing now that is mostly debatable is the card...would you swap it for anything ? But sort of stay in budget , or maybe some suggestions ?

Or maybe changing some other parts too...

 

[Darkbreeze]

Better card, better company, with better support. IDK about in YOUR region, but in MOST regions EVGA has impeccable customer support and warranty policies, by far, than any other company. And it's likely a card with a better configuration anyhow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€309.00 @ Alternate)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€37.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€86.80 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€102.38 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€66.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card (€299.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: €969.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 21:36 CEST+0200

 

[Dansaj]

Better card, better company, with better support. IDK about in YOUR region, but in MOST regions EVGA has impeccable customer support and warranty policies, by far, than any other company. And it's likely a card with a better configuration anyhow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€309.00 @ Alternate)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€37.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€86.80 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€102.38 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€66.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card (€299.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: €969.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 21:36 CEST+0200

Thanks alot for the build list...I think I will stick with this final list you gave me for a bit, maybe do some more research etc
If you have a completely different direction for a build with a 1000EURO budget , then feel free to enlighten me Im open to any suggestions
Of course keeping in mind I need it for editing (Photoshop , Illustrator etc)