Build suitable for gaming?

[greigm78]

I am looking to do a build for my son's Christmas as he now wants to switch from XBox One to PC for games.
He plays Minecraft, Fortnite and PUBG mainly. He also wants to start recording and editing gaming videos (kids are weird these days), so I have been looking around at different components and am thinking;
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X with a MSI X470 Gaming Plus board,
16GB DDR4 3000 Patriot Viper RAM
GTX1060 6gb GPU (looking at the Asus Dual OC card)
730W Semi modular PSU

Boot will be from a M.2 SSD with a mechanical 1TB drive for general storage.

Looking for opinions on whether this will do the job comfortably or should I spend the extra £50-60 on the i5-8400 with a H370 board?

Thanks all.

 

[Barty1884]

While you may (probably would) get a few extra frames from the 8400 +H370, the 2600X is going to be more beneficial in editing, streaming etc.

A very nice build - although I'd clarify the quality of the PSU. I'm not aware of too many 'good' units at 730W.

 

[greigm78]

Thanks for the response. The PSU is a Thermaltake unit that seems to get decent reviews/writeups.

What sort of power do you think I will need? Last PC I built anything above 550W was rare... lol

 

[Barty1884]

A quality 450W would actually be sufficient.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £47.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-30 04:23 BST+0100

FWIW, it might be worth considering the 2600 (non X). With a little overclocking, you'll rival the "X" performance, for a little less money.

 

[greigm78]

Thanks, will look at a lower powered but higher quality unit.

On the CPU, know what you are saying but its only £20 a difference so not massive enough to worry about.

Other than that he should be able to play most games on it at decent settings you reckon?

 

[Barty1884]

Oh, absolutely. Just pointing out that even though it's only 20quid, you could make up that gap easily enough via overclocking.

Absolutely. 2600/X + 6GB 1060 + 16GB 3000MHz DDR4 should be 60FPS High/Ultra 1080p for (almost) any title out currently.

 

[greigm78]

Thanks man. That was what I wanted to check and lucky I did re: the power supply.

On a side note, what do you think of AMD RX580 cards? Particularly the 8gb Gigabyte AORUS? How would it compare to a 6gb 1060?

Cheers

 

[Barty1884]

Depends on the title.
Generally speaking, a 6GB 1060 and 8GB 580 will trade blows - with the 'winner' depending on the titles played and the API used etc.

Best to check benchmarks for the titles your son will play, specifically.

One added benefit of the AMD cards, is a FreeSync monitor.
AMD's variable refresh rate technology has a much lower cost of entry vs Nvidia's equivalent (G-Sync).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Video Card (£214.85 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor (£139.97 @ Box Limited)
Total: £354.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-01 19:55 BST+0100

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB XLR8 Gaming OC Video Card (£236.02 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus - ROG SWIFT PG248Q 24.0" 1920x1080 180Hz Monitor (£399.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £636.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-01 19:56 BST+0100

Not a direct applies to apples, as that's 1080p 75Hz vs 1080p 180Hz, just one of the cheapest FreeSync monitors vs the cheapest G-Sync monitor I could find.

A 144Hz FreeSync monitor is going to set you back ~ £200
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/rY98TW/viewsonic-monitor-xg2401
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fFRFf7/lg-24gm79g-b-240-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-24gm79g-b

Or 240Hz for ~£260
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8MrmP6/lg-27gk750f-b-270-1920x1080-240hz-monitor-27gk750f-b

So 240Hz FreeSync + 580 (<£500) vs 180Hz G-Sync + 1060 (>£600)

Not that either card could really drive >144Hz particularly well on much other than e-sports/low settings, but still.

 

[greigm78]

Thanks again man, just checked some benchmarks and the 1060 looks to be much better for Fortnite (roughly the same for Minecraft and PUBG).

Will stick with the 1060. It will be played through his TV rather than a monitor, which is this one https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-43UJ701V - running through a 5.1 Yamaha AV amp (basically replacing the XBO)

 

[greigm78]

Apologies for reviving this but when it came time to purchase the prices had changed a bit so ended up with;

Ryzen 5 2600 (so will look to overclock per Barty's suggestion)
Antec Khuler 240 AIO
MSI B450 Tomahawk board as it seemed best performance/value combo
16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200
ASUS GTX1060 6GB Dual OC GPU
240GB M.2 SSD & 1TB Seagate HDD
550W Corsair CX550 semi modular PSU (gets good reviews)

Case will be a Thermaltake View 32TG RGB

Hopefully I have made good choices and it will do the biz but input welcome on anything I could have done better as I still have time before it will be put together.

Cheers all

 

[ohenryy]

You will be better off with a X1700 which is just a bit more expensive and couple with a B450 Gaming than the 2600 combo. Save a bit and get the extra 2 cores.

 

[Barty1884]

Not for gaming they wouldn't be @ohenryy?

The 1700X will do 3.8 on a couple of cores (potentially all after an OC).
The 2600 will do >3.8GHz through 10 active threads..... out of the box!
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/16.html

IPC gains of 2nd Gen Ryzen, improved memory compatibility....
For a predominantly gaming workload, the 2600 would be the best choice IMO.

Apologies for reviving this but when it came time to purchase the prices had changed a bit so ended up with;

Ryzen 5 2600 (so will look to overclock per Barty's suggestion)
Antec Khuler 240 AIO
MSI B450 Tomahawk board as it seemed best performance/value combo
16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200
ASUS GTX1060 6GB Dual OC GPU
240GB M.2 SSD & 1TB Seagate HDD
550W Corsair CX550 semi modular PSU (gets good reviews)

Case will be a Thermaltake View 32TG RGB

Hopefully I have made good choices and it will do the biz but input welcome on anything I could have done better as I still have time before it will be put together.

Cheers all

Solid build, absolutely.
Not 100% sure on the Kuhler, but at least make sure it ships with an AM4 bracket. If memory serves, it's decent. Nothing spectacular though.